Full Version: Anywhere Close To G To Go Sight In A Rifle?
Just bought a Winchester 70 XTR .308, would love to put a few rounds through it this weekend coming back from G to Orange County, any conveniently available spots? Probably not, but thought I'd ask around.
QUOTE(HozayKwarvo @ Mar 23 2005, 01:12 PM)
Just saw it right after I posted this. Thanks!
I'm not sure I'd want to shoot at G, too many people around, stray round perforate someone's sippy cup, I'd be bummed.
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QUOTE(HozayKwarvo @ Mar 23 2005, 01:12 PM)
Just saw it right after I posted this. Thanks!
I'm not sure I'd want to shoot at G, too many people around, stray round perforate someone's sippy cup, I'd be bummed.
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yea... the whole perfing someone's sippy cup thing would suck
handguns aren't bad out there, MUCH shorter range and all... and rifles aren't illegal... but I'd want to at least have someone... spotters or something... down range to wave me off before popping rounds down range. Would imagine that if you were only going to be sighting it in it'd be easy enough to have a few buddies 100 yds or so out and off to the sides....
QUOTE(airkuld @ Mar 23 2005, 01:09 PM)
Just bought a Winchester 70 XTR .308, would love to put a few rounds through it this weekend coming back from G to Orange County, any conveniently available spots? Probably not, but thought I'd ask around.
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Enjoy the right to own and use a firearm in Glamis, while you can. If you read some of the post here its painfully obvious "their" agenda is to ban the use. One more step closer to the perfect Disneyland.
Yes I'm talking about the AMERICAN SAND ASS. wanting it to be illegal! In case any of you are wondering who "they" are.
QUOTE(jhitesma @ Mar 14 2005, 09:15 AM)
Here's what the BLM has to say on the subject of legality:
So basically the BLM allows it - but the county is more restrictive. Most of the people I kinow who do the occasional plinking out there either go to the old canal or the gravel pits to the east of the dunes - both places have good back stops and sides to contain any stray rounds.
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Q: Where is it legal to target shoot?
A: On BLM land, you can target shoot anywhere it is not otherwise posted providing you meet all county, state and federal guidelines concerning safety, weapon bans, and trash clean up laws/regulations. Any question in regards to a specific location should be addressed by phone or in person.
Q:Is it legal to shoot a pistol in Glamis? Return to list of topics
A:Per Imperial County Sheriff's Chief Deputy, based on current county rules, the answer is no.
The question shouldn't be whether or not you can legally shoot at the dunes, but whether or not you should even consider it. Common sense says that based on OHV use, lack of adequate back stops and safety concerns to numerous to mention that it is not a good idea.
A: On BLM land, you can target shoot anywhere it is not otherwise posted providing you meet all county, state and federal guidelines concerning safety, weapon bans, and trash clean up laws/regulations. Any question in regards to a specific location should be addressed by phone or in person.
Q:Is it legal to shoot a pistol in Glamis? Return to list of topics
A:Per Imperial County Sheriff's Chief Deputy, based on current county rules, the answer is no.
The question shouldn't be whether or not you can legally shoot at the dunes, but whether or not you should even consider it. Common sense says that based on OHV use, lack of adequate back stops and safety concerns to numerous to mention that it is not a good idea.
So basically the BLM allows it - but the county is more restrictive. Most of the people I kinow who do the occasional plinking out there either go to the old canal or the gravel pits to the east of the dunes - both places have good back stops and sides to contain any stray rounds.
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And so is the asa for posting this misleading info on their board! Its wrong.
Prove me wrong and post the actual code. Not some quote from a mis-informed web site with an agenda.
Maybe there child beating hero can help?
Stoney, I don't know why you blame the ASA for that. It came from the BLM's "Ask a LEO" page on the BLM website. Not from an ASA site.
But I guess shooting the messenger is a lot easier than actually doing your own research.
BTW - I don't like it much either - but just because you're on federal land dosn't mean local laws suddenly stop applying. The BLM may not have any problem with people shooting handguns - but Imperial County may have County laws against it and they're perfectally within their right to enforce them within Imperial County...even if that bit of Imperial County happens to have Federal land in it.
But I guess shooting the messenger is a lot easier than actually doing your own research.
BTW - I don't like it much either - but just because you're on federal land dosn't mean local laws suddenly stop applying. The BLM may not have any problem with people shooting handguns - but Imperial County may have County laws against it and they're perfectally within their right to enforce them within Imperial County...even if that bit of Imperial County happens to have Federal land in it.
a lil unclear here.. tell us how ya really feel Stoney
I'm with ya about the agendas man
Anything that has been shown to me as of yet has clearly stated that it IS LEGAL, anyone saying anything else is reading something I ain't
I'm with ya about the agendas man
Anything that has been shown to me as of yet has clearly stated that it IS LEGAL, anyone saying anything else is reading something I ain't
QUOTE(jhitesma @ Mar 23 2005, 02:26 PM)
Stoney, I don't know why you blame the ASA for that. It came from the BLM's "Ask a LEO" page on the BLM website. Not from an ASA site.
But I guess shooting the messenger is a lot easier than actually doing your own research.
BTW - I don't like it much either - but just because you're on federal land dosn't mean local laws suddenly stop applying. The BLM may not have any problem with people shooting handguns - but Imperial County may have County laws against it and they're perfectally within their right to enforce them within Imperial County...even if that bit of Imperial County happens to have Federal land in it.
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But I guess shooting the messenger is a lot easier than actually doing your own research.
BTW - I don't like it much either - but just because you're on federal land dosn't mean local laws suddenly stop applying. The BLM may not have any problem with people shooting handguns - but Imperial County may have County laws against it and they're perfectally within their right to enforce them within Imperial County...even if that bit of Imperial County happens to have Federal land in it.
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Actually its a link on the asa site, thats the only reason I bring it up. Just like the head child beater is in their recent news letter.
QUOTE(jhitesma @ Mar 23 2005, 02:26 PM)
Stoney, I don't know why you blame the ASA for that. It came from the BLM's "Ask a LEO" page on the BLM website. Not from an ASA site.
But I guess shooting the messenger is a lot easier than actually doing your own research.
BTW - I don't like it much either - but just because you're on federal land dosn't mean local laws suddenly stop applying. The BLM may not have any problem with people shooting handguns - but Imperial County may have County laws against it and they're perfectally within their right to enforce them within Imperial County...even if that bit of Imperial County happens to have Federal land in it.
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But I guess shooting the messenger is a lot easier than actually doing your own research.
BTW - I don't like it much either - but just because you're on federal land dosn't mean local laws suddenly stop applying. The BLM may not have any problem with people shooting handguns - but Imperial County may have County laws against it and they're perfectally within their right to enforce them within Imperial County...even if that bit of Imperial County happens to have Federal land in it.
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That is not entirely true either.
Maybe, but it's probably true enough for an Imperial County Sheriff to put your gun in the trunk of his car and drive off with it. Weeks later you get it back with a damaged scope, scratched stock and a few other dents and bruises.
That's another reason why I wouldn't shoot at Glamis, the potential hassle factor is really too high, even if you are well within your rights.
That's another reason why I wouldn't shoot at Glamis, the potential hassle factor is really too high, even if you are well within your rights.
QUOTE(stonehenge @ Mar 23 2005, 03:32 PM)
Actually its a link on the asa site, thats the only reason I bring it up. Just like the head child beater is in their recent news letter.
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Yeah, a link to the BLM's site! You would have loved the bonehead administrator at my college who refused to list my personal website where it was supposed to be claiming that I hosted "pornography". When in fact all I had was a link to a site listing art sites at the college and one of them had a link to a guy's homepage where he had a link to a photo of his "Prince Albert". But since you could get there by following links from links from links on my site I was somehow responsible for it.
The ASA site dosn't even have any info on firearms. GlamisOnLine which is a site run by one of the Founders of the ASA has an old "Ask a LEO" page where he would get responses from the then chief ranger and it's less inflamatory than the BLM's current response:
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Q. I enjoy plinking (target shooting) with both rifle and shotgun, I know I can't shoot in the dunes, but is there a place in the area where I can legally discharge firearms, and if so where?
A. It's legal to shoot just about anyplace on public land, even in the dunes. However, common sense and safety dictate that the dunes are not a safe place to shoot. I would recommend finding a safe location with a good backstop away from the dunes to shoot. There are several gavel pits a couple miles east of Glamis you could use as long as nobody is camping in them or the gravel pit operators are not working in them. Remember, no shooting of glass targets and all targets, brass, clay pigeons and other trash must be picked up. 9 I saw a great place this last trip - - head over to the canal, cross over it and go into the old canal. It is basically a hole in the ground. Great place to set up a target with a good solid earth back stop - vjb)
A. It's legal to shoot just about anyplace on public land, even in the dunes. However, common sense and safety dictate that the dunes are not a safe place to shoot. I would recommend finding a safe location with a good backstop away from the dunes to shoot. There are several gavel pits a couple miles east of Glamis you could use as long as nobody is camping in them or the gravel pit operators are not working in them. Remember, no shooting of glass targets and all targets, brass, clay pigeons and other trash must be picked up. 9 I saw a great place this last trip - - head over to the canal, cross over it and go into the old canal. It is basically a hole in the ground. Great place to set up a target with a good solid earth back stop - vjb)
That's from the GOL site http://glamisonline.org/dunes_law_enforcement_faqs.asp
The bits quoted above are from the BLM's own site which GOL provides a link to, ASA probably has a link to it as well....and GASP...I've even seen links to it from this site so I guess GD.com also supports that position. In fact here's another copy of the link:
http://www.ca.blm.gov/elcentro/qanda.html
There, it's linked from GD.com again - must mean GD.com approves of it
(we REALLY need the old rolleyes guy back)
But to answer your question, here's a couple sites I've used close to Glamis. Just off 78 and across the bridge (Highline canal) some good backstops there, but stay away from the bee hives. About 5 miles further east, on Northside of highway is an old "gravel pit". Some of the area there North of 78 is Navy bombing/gunnery range. Most of it to the South is also. Another place you might check out is east of Glamis. There are a bunch of gravel pits out there, mostly unused most of the time. Look for a dirt road going north, before the mine road, it sorta looks like it'll take you to a lonely mt. peak, (it don't) It gets you near where 78 used to run before the mine moved it, you'll be able to tell where the pavement used to be, anything to the North is in the bombing range plus a little wiggle room for a buffer. Should have no problems there as long as you don't shoot towards the mine site. Stay away from any fences and you should be fine.
QUOTE(nats-fj40 @ Mar 23 2005, 08:29 PM)
But to answer your question, here's a couple sites I've used close to Glamis. Just off 78 and across the bridge (Highline canal) some good backstops there, but stay away from the bee hives. About 5 miles further east, on Northside of highway is an old "gravel pit". Some of the area there North of 78 is Navy bombing/gunnery range. Most of it to the South is also. Another place you might check out is east of Glamis. There are a bunch of gravel pits out there, mostly unused most of the time. Look for a dirt road going north, before the mine road, it sorta looks like it'll take you to a lonely mt. peak, (it don't) It gets you near where 78 used to run before the mine moved it, you'll be able to tell where the pavement used to be, anything to the North is in the bombing range plus a little wiggle room for a buffer. Should have no problems there as long as you don't shoot towards the mine site. Stay away from any fences and you should be fine.
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perfect, thanks!
QUOTE(stonehenge @ Mar 23 2005, 02:04 PM)
Yes I'm talking about the AMERICAN SAND ASS. wanting it to be illegal! In case any of you are wondering who "they" are.
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I'm not sure about that one??? But those bad ASA people want you to clean up your camp and leave the dunes cleaner when you leave... the nerve of those folks...
Well, I've been shooting my gun at G now for about 15 years and I shoot at glass bottles too (and they break!!!) and I don't plan to stop any time soon...
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