I just worked a deal out for us to order some LED whip lights from AZ Whip. Normally $87.50 but i can get them for $65. Custom color just for Xtreme Motorsports. Let me know if your interested. Combination Orange & Bright Blue. This is my cost for the bulk order. Let me know if your interested. I need at least 15 more to make this work. It's 5' tall for those of you who are going to put it on your buggy it's plenty tall. Also it's flexible. No more breaking whips when you forget to pull it off when driving in the trailer. Cool parts is, this color belongs to us. Let me know if your interested.

extremesandcars@sbcglobal.net

I've attached a picture of a green whip so you have an idea of what we're looking at. Extremely high quality. We'll warranty for two years.

I'll take one!

i would like a green one

That sounds like a great deal.

Some guy drove into camp selling those and IIRC, he was asking $160 ea.

Pretty impressive when he bent them all the way over so the tip was touching the base, but he was too high priced.

Did the guy have a display of his whips on the back of the truck?

Vicki

If so, I know the ones you're talking about.

The quad whip survived a gnarly rollover... it was only just barely bent at the base and needed a quick straightening out and all was well.

AND they are different from the lights shown in this topic... there are more bulbs, for one thing.

We have a red, white and blue on on our buggy and a small red one on top of our Poles-and-Holders pole and both are really terrific.

The price that was quoted to you ($160) barely covers the costs... they are custom made (any color combination your heart desires) and very labor intensivem hence the cost.

But absolutely worth it... great lights.

That is, if they are the ones that drove into Socal's camp

Vicki

Yes, the guy who drove into camp had a display on his hitch.

I counted 60 LEDs in his setup, 2 LEDs were mounted on each side of 15 small 2 sided ckt boards.

They did look to be well constructed, but $160 is out of my budget. I don't remember the brand name.

I'm glad you got to see them. They really are very nice whips.

But I wouldn't want to blatantly market his product on GlamisDunes.com since he's not a paying sponsor... not fair to the other GD.com supporters... so I will leave it at that.

Unless someone wants some more information and then of course, they can always write to me.

Vicki

Hogduner - 1
Dirtdiva - 1

Keep em coming. We only need 12 more. These whips are virtually indestructable. We had a car roll over with one of these and landed back on it's wheels, whip was still working. They have lexan tubes that the LED's are in. High quality stuff.

We all need whips.

Alan do we have to get them in the Orange and Blue?

Alan, on your web site you are advertizing for an "investor for a growing sandcar buisness with a strong market" do you have any idea what you are doing to your "stong market" by selling parts at cost to make you initial "dealer" order?

Good price on a great whip . I have 3 of them , one for the car, one for the quad and one for the golf cart.
Jerry Long is the guy who builds them and is a buddy of mine. Great customer service and makes a cool product.

same question here

my ? too i might want a couple of red ones????

When would you have these at your place, since I am planning on dropping by for a look see on the 23rd of April with my brother Beachhead....

I would like an all orange one if possible

Hey Xtreme a couple weeks ago a ranger made Sandroostu pull his blue lite cover off his whip. Said there was a new law about no red or blue lights on whips. Would yours be in violation?

If they're legal I'd be in...

For that price yes. I hd them make a custom color for us that was brighter than the rest. I can get you other colors too, just no for that price.

Making it stronger for us.

I will have at least a few of them. The rest are being manufactured.

They dont make an orange one by itself yet. Just the Orange and Blue

Technically that Ranger can not make you remove or change any whip light color. If he did that he was being a jerk. No legality issues.

Here's the law... yes it's new... and yes you can be cited for it.

Can you fight it in court? Probably. Would you lose? Depends on what the judge constitutes as a "warning light."

§ 38346. Red or Blue Lights Prohibited
A person shall not display a flashing or steady burning red or blue warning light on an off-highway motor vehicle except as permitted by Section 21055 or when an extreme hazard exists.

Note: § 21055 reads:


Vicki

Thanks SA that was the section I was referring to, couldn't remember where I'd seen it

Vicki, when we were designing these i talked to the authorities about this color and they said
1) Those specifications only relate to public Hwy use
2) Because i've mixed it with Orange it wouldn't be applicable either way.

If i'm wrong, please let me know or get me in contact with the right people so i don't spend $7,000 in custom manufacturing to find out they're not allowed.

Thanks

Alan, I'll take one.
Orange and blue just happen to be the colors of my wife's outrigger canoe team!

OK. Here we go.

Dirt Diva - 1
Hogduner - 1
MrBuckWheat - 1
mvanweer - 1
Secret Friend - 2

six more to go.

Alan, it will all come down to a matter of interpretation... "what is a warning light?"

The law was written to prohibit people from using "police-type" lighting for illegal purposes. But as usual, the law was badly written.

I'm sorry Alan, but as you can see by the referenced section, the authority you spoke to is mistaken... the new law was specifically written for off-highway vehicles, not public highway use. In addition, since the law does not differentiate between whether the blue light must be exclusive or combined with any other color in order to be illegal, if an officer decides that the blue lights on the whip (our red, white and blue lights included) serve as a warning light, he will cite you. Then it's up to the judge.

Vicki

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put me down for one also Alan

OK. Here we go.

Dirt Diva - 1
Hogduner - 1
MrBuckWheat - 1
mvanweer - 1
Secret Friend - 2
Looney Duner - 1

five more to go.

We're going to take our chances. Thanks Sailaway. We've run Red & blue lights on our whips for 20 years and have never had an issue. I'll play the odds. Thanks again

Obviously, we feel the same way (our red, white and blue lighted whip is new).

But just so you understand, this law is new and what has been accepted for 20 years has no bearing on what will happen next season and has been happening this season. It is not a coincidence that there are lighting citations now... it's a shiney new law and they're using it.

Vicki

Alan,
you posted that the special price is for the Blue and Orange only. how much would a all red one be??

I want one!!! Add me to the list!





Ill start with one of your whips and hopefully make the move to one of your LT cars soon!!!!

Alan,

I will take one. Sounds like a great deal. I will take the chance of running a light no one would think would be used for an emergency vehicle. I will e-mail you.

Thanks,
Joe

$85 for all the other colors.

Dirt Diva - 1
Hogduner - 1 (GREEN) $85
MrBuckWheat - 1
mvanweer - 1
Secret Friend - 2
Looney Duner - 1
Coobie - 1
Murrietajoe - 2
Jas0502 - 1 (GREEN) $85
duneluvr - 1 (RED) $85

I'll have delivery time frames tomorrow.

I want a green one!!!!

SWEET... Sign us up for a RED one.


ps.. do you have a delivery time??

Got it.

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Here's the law... yes it's new... and yes you can be cited for it.

Can you fight it in court? Probably. Would you lose? Depends on what the judge constitutes as a "warning light."

§ 38346. Red or Blue Lights Prohibited
A person shall not display a flashing or steady burning red or blue warning light on an off-highway motor vehicle except as permitted by Section 21055 or when an extreme hazard exists.

Note: § 21055 reads:
[quote]21055. The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle is exempt from Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 21350), Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 21650), Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 21800), Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 21950), Chapter 6 (commencing with 22100), Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 22348), Chapter 8 (commencing with Section 22450), Chapter 9 (commencing with Section 22500), and Chapter 10 (commencing with Section 22650) of this division, and Article 3 (commencing with Section 38305) and Article 4 (commencing with Section 38312) of Chapter 5 of Division 16.5, under all of the following conditions:

(a) If the vehicle is being driven in response to an emergency call or while engaged in rescue operations or is being used in the immediate pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or is responding to, but not returning from, a fire alarm, except that fire department vehicles are exempt whether directly responding to an emergency call or operated from one place to another as rendered desirable or necessary by reason of an emergency call and operated to the scene of the emergency or operated from one fire station to another or to some other location by reason of the emergency call.

(b ) If the driver of the vehicle sounds a siren as may be reasonably necessary and the vehicle displays a lighted red lamp visible from the front as a warning to other drivers and pedestrians.
A siren shall not be sounded by an authorized emergency vehicle except when required under this section.

Amended Ch. 1017, Stats. 1977. Effective September 23, 1977 by terms of an urgency clause.[/quote]

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This is very confusing. The reason is that it says nothing about where the "red or blue lights" are prohibited. Does this mean we will get pulled over for having red tail lights? I thought we couldn't have anything exept red tail lights. Hopefully someone can read between the lines for me.

I want a Yellow one.

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This is very confusing. The reason is that it says nothing about where the "red or blue lights" are prohibited. Does this mean we will get pulled over for having red tail lights? I thought we couldn't have anything exept red tail lights. Hopefully someone can read between the lines for me.
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It's up for interpretation (ignore my spelling). It depends on whether the ranger is in a good mood or bad. Pismo they're always in a good mood.

You're absolutely right, the law is very vague and doesn't reference any specific location for the light to be illegal. That allows the officer doing the citing to make the decision on the spot and gives him plenty of leeway. Bad for us, great for them.

As for the taillamps, there is a distinction. Here's the section...



Vicki

bottom line.......COPS.....They are right you are wrong....unless you want to visit the pokey or get a really expensive ticket and hassle to go with it.

Hard to believe that Rangers have nothing better to do than harass someone about what color there whip is.

No kidding.

Tickets have been issued for having the wrong colored FLAG for pete's sake (supposed to be red or orange, first position) and whether or not the helmet they are wearing is D.O.T. approved.

Do they have something better to do? I certainly think so. I personally think people trashing the dunes are far more worthy of attention than the yellow smiley face flag on the whip.

But that's just my opinion

Vicki

Ticket's for flags????
Helmets DOT approved????

You've got to be joking. At pismo you get busted for four things.
SPEEDING (beach, around camps, etc.)
DRINKING & DRIVING (anywhere)
FIREWORKS
RIDING DOUBLE ON ATV's

Other than that. Have a nice time.

I wish I was joking.

But I'm not.

Oh, and at Pismo those aren't the only things you get busted for, by the way... don't let your dog off the leash!

Vicki

Dirt Diva - 1 - $65
Hogduner - 1 (GREEN) $85
MrBuckWheat - 1 - $65
mvanweer - 1 - $65
Secret Friend - 2 - $65 X 2 = $130
Looney Duner - 1 - $65
Coobie - 1 - $65
Murrietajoe - 2 - $65 X 2 = $130
Jas0502 - 1 (GREEN) $85
duneluvr - 1 (RED) $85
Lucky - 1 (YELLOW) $85

Updated. Need a couple more of ours. Anyone else. I'm already ordering them so i hold this for at least a couple weeks.

Oh, and at Pismo those aren't the only things you get busted for, by the way... don't let your dog off the leash!


That is anywhere, most states have leash laws.....