Anybody else here about this new ordinance "they" (Councilman Zucket I believe) are trying to get past?

Apparently, if this passes, you can be ticketed and towed if a trailer or moho is parked on ANY public street in San Diego for more than 4 hours.

If nothing else this will make it real tough to load up before a trip.

Another example of not being able to effectively enfore the laws on the books, so obviously more laws are needed!

Isn't there something that can be done to fight ordinances before they're signed??

Geoff

Eff that! They probably saw a guy loading his things with his family about to head to mother G and thought, "that effer is about to have a chit load of fun, we need to put a stop to it"

Well There is hope!! We had the same issue last year in the city of orange. It took us (ITS OUR CITY TOO) 2 year's of very hard work to fight the good fight and for the most part we were successful in getting the law's to be fair. Although the law's are tougher in some way's but we can still get by without to much hassle.
New law say's you can park on the street with a permit that can be obtained from the city for 2 days before and after a trip. No over night parking on any city street's without a permit.
Visitor's MoHo/ RV's must be park directly adjacent to owners property and can stay for 7 days with permit with homeowners consent.

Then there is the parking issue on one's own property. That was a totally different battle!!!!

wow.. LAKESIDE BIATCHES!!!!! park where you want when you want..

I guess Im blessed to be able to keep the rig on my own property and they cant say shiat about it!!!!!!!! Im out in the County now biatch!! (directed at the city of san diego govt)


Before I moved to this house, I used to live within the city limits of san diego. What a effin nightmare the city govt is. The effed with me soooo much. WAnted me to move an entire retaining wall back six inches, threatened to impound my chevelle becuase I was working on it and it didnt have any fenders on it while it was in my driveway----Oh, here is the kicker on that. They said they would impound the vehicle from my private property take it to a wrecking yard AND I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET IT BACK!!! F*CK the city of san diego.

BTW, I still have the notice they left me for the chevelle. Pisses me off!

NORCO biiiiaaatttchheeessss..park whatever, whenever,,,just whatch out for the horse poooo...

Isn't this already a law?
I got 'warnings' in both Clairmont and Santee.
Could have left it on the street if I moved it every 3rd day.

Although I see tons of trailers on the street in Santee What gives?

In temecula the city ordinance is okay to park a max of 3 days and you can get another 3 day extension from the police dept the downside is you can only get 4 extensions per calender year. I live in an association and my neighbor and I get letters from the association for parking our trailers on the street. They are only there for unloading and loading up for g not liek we store them there. I jsut ignore the association and wait for the police to come by. I tell the cop I just parked it there unless they have a signed complaint stating otherwise .....

I had to work down there not too long ago and was on one street that it looked like it was a requirement to own a triailer about 80 percent were toyhaulers about 1/2 on street and half in driveway.

Are the MoHo's in CALI not lic just like any other street vehicle??? Should they not have the same privilages to park on a street and cars and trucks that are lic in the state???

I'm unincorporated SD county, I've still had CHP post warnings twice on my rig...once when it had been there less than 12 hours...got home late and didn't want to unload until the next day, woke up and went outside to a violation sticker on my window and "WILL BE TOWED" in big bold letters.

Rental guy: on the spam. Offering to rent a trailer to a guy who already owns one contributes nothing.

Shhhhh....dont let anyone know how good it is to live in the County where nobody bothers you....drop it anywhere and eff the neighbors....cops aint coming if you call anyways..

For anyone who lives within San Diego city limits, it is to your best interest to get involved with the city counsel to fight down this proposed ordinance. Between personal experience, and as a real estate investor / landlord, I have learned first hand the problems and headaches you can have fighting city hall. Currently there are more than enough codes that restrict the use and storage of RV's, trailers, boats, etc on not only city property, but also upon personally property. If you happen to be a homeowner or even a renter and think that you will just pull your equipment onto your driveway or into your yard, there is a neighbor compliance department that has a bite worse than a pit bull once they target you. Been there.... done that. There are more codes that you could even begin to imagine regarding the parking / storage of RV's, trailers, boats, etc. on your own property. That's not even talking about city easements and setbacks on all single family residence property.

I really suggest that for anyone who lives within San Diego city limits that you take the time to contact your counsel member, or the City Attorneys office.

I can understand a max of 3 days, but a max of 3 hours, heck no. Atleast we can park our moho on our property and when we are loading we just move it to the outside of our fence which is just enough room to fit the moho and trailer off of the street.

As I stated before Its going to be a battle but ( ocean1 ) Is 100% correct.
You ALL need to get involved, Call GOOD SAM and they can give you some info on how to fight this situation and don't wait cause before you now it the law will change and then its to late to go back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Group together with all your neighbors and fellow RV buddy's and have meetings to push letter writing and hand out flyers.
Here is the link to our web site in City of Orange.

Its our city too

Good luck

For any San Diego residents that own RV's, trailers, boats etc and I would suggest that you look over this link and GET INVOLVED.

http://www.sandiego.gov/citycouncil/

Additionally, I would recommend contacting or e-mailing the City Attorneys office to voice your interests and concerns.

e-mail: cityattorney@sandiego.gov

I found these, just sucks...

http://www.cvsd.com/Groups/plan_files/2005...size_letter.pdf
http://www.cvsd.com/Groups/plan_files/2005...e_ordinance.pdf

I think I'm going to go to the meeting Mr. Peters is having tomorrow at the city admin building @ 2:00pm

Any links to the current municipal code regarding the 3 days for a vehicle or other ammo you can find would be greatly appreciated....I love how these people have public meetings in the middle of the day when people concerned about it are at work.

[quote=toyhauler/rv rental,Apr 16 2005, 08:24 PM]
Im a spammer
[QUOTE]I started an rv rental business to offer a solution. [/quote]


Heres a solution for you - Become a sponsor and stop threadjacking with your spam.

I e-mailed the city attorney and my council member.

What else??

I would suggest that anyone interested should e-mail and / or call, not only your own council member, but contact all of the members from a taxpayers position. Even more important would be to attend any / all meeting you possibly can. The next meeting is, according to a residence letter that was sent out by Scott Peters on March 14, 2005, in part (by the way, Peters also supports this)

I am chair of the Land Use and Housing Committee on the San Diego City Council. I have scheduled a meeting on April 20, 2005 at 2 p.m. to discuss the proposed oversized vehicle ordinance. This meeting will take place on the 12th floor of the City Administration Building, 202 C Street, San Diego, CA. 92101.

Bottom line is that the voices to shoot this ordinance down must be louder than the voices that support this ordinance. Nothing more than "squeaky wheel" politics.

It's effin hard to go to a meeting during the work week.

I e-mailed Scott as well

Manager’s Report No. 04-257, November 24, 2004 on Oversized Vehicle Parking

I can not express the importance of getting involved with this matter. For anyone who thinks it is no big deal, you are sadly mistaking. I can assure you from personal experience, once you get targeted by the city, it is a painful, expensive, endless fight.

Here is just a portion of what the city is going to do unless enough voices are heard.


The following terms as used in the proposed ordinance are defined as follows:

a) Oversized vehicle means any vehicle that exceeds 22 feet in length or 7 feet in height (including any attached trailers, vehicles or loads thereon).

Non-Motorized Vehicle means any trailer or trailer bus, as defined in Vehicle Code

Sections 636 and 550.

c) Recreational vehicle means:

i. Any camp trailer, camper, trailer coach, or house car, as defined in Vehicle Code sections 242, 243 and 635 or California Health and Safety Code section 18010;

ii. Boats, boat trailers, dune buggies, and other motorized or towed vehicles used solely for recreational purposes.

d) Stationary storage container means any sort of storage container of any size used for the transportation of goods, wares, or merchandise.

The provisions of the proposed ordinance regulating the parking of oversized, recreational, and non-motorized vehicles are summarized below:

Anyone else wrote a letter or are able to go to this meeting?

Ok for everyone who parks on their own property and figures this city property ordinance does not or will not effect you. I can hear it now, I park in my driveway, so it doesn't matter to me. Well guess what? Just read this little kicker that has been included in the City's Manager's Report.

c) Prohibiting oversized, non-motorized and recreational vehicles from parking within 50 feet of any public street or alley intersection.

I would suggest that if this recommendation stands as proposed, hopefully you have your boat, trailer, motorhome parked behind a 50 ft. setback if this becomes the letter of the law.

I hope everyone who thinks this won't effect you.......... think twice.

Personally I live in Poway, and this doesn't effect the property in live in, motorhome or trailer. However I do own property in SD city limits and have lived in SD city limits and have fought the city for years with many assorted city codes and zoning issues. All I can say is good luck if you think you will not be effected. I have called, written letters, faxed letters and sent e-mails to all counsel members, city manager, city mayor and city attorney. More people need to care and get involved.

All of my property is county. Anything I can do/need to worry about?

And you people that have comercial trucks and vans need to be very concerned. Plummers carpet guys or anything that is over 7 feet tall are going to be on the hit list.
I bet that means all you guy's with lifted F350's with the 44 mudder's can be harrassed.

Seen all the tricks that they will try to slide in and then screw you over later.

Dont sit back and just let then do it to you!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go to battle

This blows, I am gonna PIN it so peeps will see this, I didnt know anything about it till I read the paper today......

Well for the time being, we have a temporary win, getting this current proposal voted down. BUT, you can be assured that this will resurface in a modified version. Scott Peters not only is the one primarily pushing this ordinance, but he currently chairs the Committee on Land Use and Housing. Protocol requires that the community be notified prior to any vote, just understand that this notification is usually a back page, small print item. It is to any San Diego city resident best interest that if you ever hear of any meetings or actions planned that it be brought out to the attention of as many people possible.
Just remember, it's all "squeaky wheel" politics,

Update:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/2...999-7m21rv.html

Another update...... this is the e-mail I received today regarding this ordinance,


Thank you for your recent comments expressing concern about the proposed Oversized Vehicle Ordinance. Deputy Mayor Zucchet forwarded your email to me because I have been working with him on this issue. My name is Adam Wexler and I am happy to address your concerns and answer any questions you may have about this proposed ordinance.



As you are probably aware, the proposed Oversized Vehicle Ordinance was discussed at the City Council’s Land Use & Housing Committee on April 20. Numerous residents spoke both in support and in opposition to the proposed ordinance. The Committee asked City staff to evaluate some of the concerns brought forward by the public, such as enforcement and the 4 hour time limt, and return to the committee within 60 days.



It is Deputy Mayor Zucchet’s hope that City staff will return to the Land Use & Housing Committee with improvements to the ordinance that address everyone’s concerns. Additionally, when this issue is discussed by the entire City Council, Deputy Mayor Zucchet will be considering all comments and suggestions about the ordinance.



Should you have any questions regarding this ordinance, please feel free to contact me directly at 619-236-7351. Otherwise, I will keep you informed as the discussion about this proposed ordinance continues.



Thank you again,

Adam

---------------------------------------------------------------
Adam N. Wexler
Council Representative/Policy Analyst
Deputy Mayor Michael Zucchet
(619) 236-7351 Phone

Thought I would post an update of this proposed ordinance. Currently there is a committee that is working on a revised proposal. At this time, it looks like the next public meeting will be August 10, 2005. I have a contact name for anyone who would like to express an opinion or suggestions to work towards an acceptable regulation.

Something WILL happen, and there WILL be some sort of restrictions imposed on RV's, boats, trailers, etc. I will also make a suggestion for everyone within San Diego city limits, don't be fooled that you will be free and clear just parking your stuff on your own property. I can assure you that there are a handful of municipal codes already on the books that will restrict parking on your own property. I speak from personal experience that once the Neighborhood Compliance Department gets you in there sites, it is a very tough battle to meet compliance. It is to everyone's best interest to get involved.

If you care to get your input considered or to be discussed in the committee currently working on a revised proposal contact Deborah VanWanseele. First it is heard before the Land Use and Housing Committee for consideration, then to the full city counsel for budget approval.

Currently the best contact I have is:

Deborah VanWanseele
e-mail: dvanwanseele@sandiego.gov
Fax: (619) 533-3444

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, here is the latest "revised" parking proposal that will be presented to the Land Use and Housing Committee this Fall. I can not stress it enough for anyone who have RV's, boats, trailers, etc. that lives within SD City limits to get involved.

What the majority of homeowners do not know nor begin to understand are all of the municipal codes that are currently on the books that restrict and / or prohibit the parking of these item even within the boundaries of your personal property.

Part of me should not concerned, since my son Brandon Long owns Regional Realty and Investments. Ordinances like this typically increase his business with clients selling to get out of SD to move into the county area. However as a long time off roader, RV and trailer owner, I have fought SD City Hall many times over the years and empathize with property owners who enjoy their sport and activities.

So what it is worth, here is the latest draft.


Oversized, Non-Motorized, and Recreational Vehicles

Proposed Parking Ordinance

Oversized Vehicles:


No parking within 50’ of intersections and alleys

Exceptions:

- Loading/unloading

- Providing of service

- Vehicles engaged in the construction, operation, removal, or repair of utility or public utility in accordance with Vehicle Code Section 22512.

- Commercial loading zones


Tractor-Trailers and Buses:

4-hour time limit parking

No parking 10 PM to 6 AM

No parking within 50’ of intersections and alleys

Exceptions

- Loading/unloading

- Providing of service

- Vehicles engaged in the construction, operation, removal, or repair of utility or public utility in accordance with Vehicle Code Section 22512.

- Schools buses engaged in transportation of students

- Youth buses engaged in activity

- Commercial loading zones


Non-Motorized Trailers (attached or unattached):[/B]


- No time limit 6 AM to 10 PM

- No parking 10 PM to 6 AM

- No parking within 50’ of intersections and alleys

Exceptions:

- Loading/unloading


[B]RVs


Without Permit

- No time limit 6 AM to 10 PM

- No parking 10 PM to 6 AM

- No parking within 50’ of intersections and alleys


Permit required for overnight parking and is available for residents and guest as follows:

Permit:

- Application and fee

- Proof of residence

- Proof of ownership

- Directly in front of residence

- Up to 72 overnight stays per year with a maximum of three consecutive overnight stays per permit.

- A minimum of one night away after three consecutive overnight stays before next permit is used.

- The vehicle shall not be used for overnight camping, lodging, or for accommodation purposes.

- The City Engineer may issue a permit for parking within 50’ of intersections based on safety analysis on a case by case basis.


Guest Permit:

- Same rules as above. In addition:

- Available only for guests and visitors of City residents, who reside outside the County.

- Guest permits are counted as part of the total 72 overnight stays available for a City resident.

- Certification by the City resident that permit is being issued is for a guest or a visitor of the City resident.

- The vehicle shall not be used for overnight camping, lodging, or for accommodation purposes.


Definitions:

- Oversized vehicle means any vehicle that exceeds 22 feet in length or 7 feet in height (including any attached trailers, vehicles or loads thereon). An oversized vehicle does not include a Recreation Vehicle.

- Non-Motorized Vehicle has the same meaning as in Vehicle Code Section 630 except for a boat and trailer combination.

- Recreational vehicle means:

i. Any camp trailer, camper, trailer coach, or house car, as defined in Vehicle Code sections 242, 243 and 635 or California Health and Safety Code section 18010; or

ii. A boat and trailer combination.

- Tractor-Trailer means the combination of a truck tractor as defined in Vehicle Code Section 655 and a semitrailer as defined Vehicle Code Section 550.

Here is a copy of an e-mail I received today from the city with a tentative schedule for this revised ordinance (above post)to be presented.

Anyone who lives within the San Diego city limits should be motivated to get involved.

Once the small minority of property owners that do not like any recreational vehicles / equipment stored in public view gets this passed, then watch out. There are an assortment of municipal codes that are already on the books that limit and / or restrict parking upon your own property. These same people will be going after your RV's, and trailers.


From: "Husam Hasenin" <hhasenin@sandiego.gov>
To: "Husam Hasenin" <HHasenin@sandiego.gov>
Cc: "Deborah Van Wanseele" <DVanWanseele@sandiego.gov>; "Julio Fuentes" <JFuentes@sandiego.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 4:13 PM
Subject: Parking of Oversized, Recreational, and Non-Motorized Vehicles


Hello,

Attached is the latest draft of the proposed ordinance on parking of Oversized, Recreational, and Non-Motorized Vehicles. We are tentatively scheduled to present the proposal before the Land Use and Housing Committee of the City Council on September 14, 2005. We will update you with the latest information as it becomes available.

If you have any questions, please contact me.


Thank You

Husam Hasenin
Associate Engineer - Traffic
Transportation Engineering Division
(619) 533-3198
(619) 533-3651 Fax

Latest update

Below is the e-mail and update I received regarding SD parking issues.


Hello,

Attached is a modified draft ordinance proposal that includes a summary of the permit process.

If you have any questions, please contact me.

Thank You

Husam Hasenin
Associate Engineer - Traffic
Transportation Engineering Division
(619) 533-3198
(619) 533-3651 Fax


DRAFT
Oversized, Non-Motorized, and Recreational Vehicles
Proposed Parking Ordinance



Oversized Vehicles:

No parking within 50’ of intersections and alleys
Exceptions:
- Loading/unloading
- Providing of service
- Vehicles engaged in the construction, operation, removal, or repair of utility or public utility in accordance with Vehicle Code Section 22512.
- Commercial loading zones

Tractor-Trailers and Buses:

4-hour time limit parking
No parking 10 PM to 6 AM
No parking within 50’ of intersections and alleys
Exceptions
- Loading/unloading
- Providing of service
- Vehicles engaged in the construction, operation, removal, or repair of utility or public utility in accordance with Vehicle Code Section 22512.
- Schools buses engaged in transportation of students
- Youth buses engaged in activity
- Commercial loading zones

Non-Motorized Trailers (attached or unattached):

- No time limit 6 AM to 10 PM
- No parking 10 PM to 6 AM
- No parking within 50’ of intersections and alleys
Exceptions:
- Loading/unloading

RVs

Without Permit
- No time limit 6 AM to 10 PM
- No parking 10 PM to 6 AM
- No parking within 50’ of intersections and alleys


Permit required for overnight parking and is available for residents and guest as follows:
Permit:
- Application and fee
- Proof of residence
- Proof of ownership
- Directly in front of residence
- Up to 72 overnight stays per year with a maximum of three consecutive overnight stays per permit.
- A minimum of one night away after three consecutive overnight stays before next permit is used.
- The vehicle shall not be used for overnight camping, lodging, or for accommodation purposes.
- The City Engineer may issue a permit for parking within 50’ of intersections based on safety analysis on a case by case basis.

Guest Permit:
- Same rules as above. In addition:
- Available only for guests and visitors of City residents, who reside outside the County.
- Guest permits are counted as part of the total 72 overnight stays available for a City resident.
- Certification by the City resident that permit is being issued is for a guest or a visitor of the City resident.
- The vehicle shall not be used for overnight camping, lodging, or for accommodation purposes.


Definitions:
- Oversized vehicle means any vehicle that exceeds 22 feet in length or 7 feet in height (including any attached trailers, vehicles or loads thereon). An oversized vehicle does not include a Recreational Vehicle.
- Non-Motorized Vehicle has the same meaning as in Vehicle Code Section 630 except for a boat and trailer combination.
- Recreational vehicle means:
i. Any camp trailer, camper, trailer coach, or house car, as defined in Vehicle Code sections 242, 243 and 635 or California Health and Safety Code section 18010; or
ii. A boat and trailer combination.
- Tractor-Trailer means the combination of a truck tractor as defined in Vehicle Code Section 655 and a semitrailer as defined Vehicle Code Section 550.






Permit Process:

The permitting process will be for recreational vehicles (Boats and RV's) allowing them to park in front of the registered owner's (RO) home from 10pm to 6am. Each permit is good for one day (8 hours) only. The registered owner will be limited to 72 permits a year. There will be a transaction cost of $3.00 per transaction. The RO can purchase multiple permits per transaction.

The RO must register for the program in person before they are allowed to access the online permit issuing system. Hopefully, citizens can register at any police substation, Community Service Center, as well as Parking Management. The online system will accept credit cards only (Branded Visa/Mastercard) The (RO) will be responsible for printing the permit and affixing it to a predetermined location. Each permit will have a tracking number, and be coded by month (color or numbering system).

The online system will compile a daily list of permits issued, which will be used by enforcement officers. Enforcement will be complaint driven. The application will have capabilities for staff to track number of permits sold altogether, by time frame (day, week, or month), and by street, zip code, RO, type (RV or Boat) and if possible council district.

The system is anticipated to issue at least 50,000 permits the first year, and 75,000 permits the second year.

Here is the latest update regarding this RV parking issue. It has been my experience that once there is any hot topic, that it is not uncommon to see these postponements only to allow conflicting opinions to settle down and loose interest. Then it winds up once again on the calendar, and usually pushed through with minimum opposition.

I will do my best to stay on top of this issue, but hopefully SD city residences that share an interest in the ability to maintain the ability to park within your own property will stay involved and share any information you might receive.



Hello,

Please see the information below regarding the hearing of the proposed parking ordinance at the Land Use and Housing Committee:

The LU&H committee will not take up the issue of oversized and non-motorized vehicle regulation at their September 14, 2005 meeting as tentatively scheduled. Given recent council resignations, the LU&H committee is currently reduced to three members, which does not lend itself to a meaningful discussion of controversial items. No new date has been set at this time.



Thank You

Husam Hasenin
Associate Engineer - Traffic
Transportation Engineering Division
(619) 533-3198
(619) 533-3651 Fax

Delayed, nice!

Here is a copy of today's update with a better time line of events.





I am writing to inform you that the previously scheduled hearing of the new proposed draft for the Oversized Vehicle Ordinance has been taken off the Land Use & Housing (LU&H) Committee agenda for September 14, 2005.

This is a result of the large amount of dissension between parties on both sides of this issue. Therefore, staff has concluded that this issue be taken back to the working group that was put together as a result of Councilmember Frye's motion on April 20, when the original draft was presented before LU&H.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Our office was just informed of this change today. We were informed that this ordinance will be put in the working group for 4-5 months, tentatively, in order to allow both parties to come to a more common ground. This is the extent of the information we have received.

For future reference, please visit the City's LU&H website at http://clerkdoc.sannet.gov/citycouncilcomm...ouncilcomm.html , in order to obtain docket information.

Sincerely,




Pari Sanati
District Six Council Representative
Councilmember Donna Frye
202 C Street, MS 10A
San Diego, CA 92101
Phone (619) 236-6616
Fax (619) 236-7329

I just receiver this schedule update today.



Hello,

The newly-created City Parking Advisory Board has requested an information only report on the status and elements of the proposed Oversized, Recreational, and Non-Motorized Vehicle Parking Ordinance. The item has been tentatively scheduled for Thursday, October 20, 2005 at 3 PM at the City Administration Building, 12th floor.

We will send out an agenda of the meeting for confirmation once we receive one.

If you have any questions, please contact me.

Thank You

Husam Hasenin
Associate Engineer - Traffic
Transportation Engineering Division
(619) 533-3198
(619) 533-3651 Fax

Well, The City Dawgs are out in force. I got a ticket today for having my M>H. on the street for more than 72 hours. I 've lived in this house for about 21 years and have never before been questioned about -"what's on the street". Oh well , I heard the City is broke; so my $41.00 will go to some poor overworked city -councilman to spend on strippers and drinks . Big Brother is watching...O^O

72 hour rule has been on the books for many years. It applies to any / all vehicles, not just motorhomes. Typically you will only be cited resulting from a complaint of a neighbor.

Sad to say, but few people know just how may codes there already are that limit or prohibit how we us our we can use our property.

I've been ticketed once... but, it was there a while. I too only park for a few days while batterys charge (another NO NO having an extension cord running from home, to trailer parked curbside). Lately it's been pretty good... plus, I'm super concerned with it being an eye sore when it's curbside. I try and get it back to storage as fast as I can.

I do HATE the fact my neighbor three houses down parks their 30' MH all year round curbside. No tickets. EVER! Why?!?!?! The woman of the house works at DMV. Not fair!



.

Just thought I would add todays update.



Hello Dennis,

The proposed parking ordinance is still in the planning stage. However, there are no meetings scheduled on the item at this time. I will send out information on the future schedule once it becomes available.


Thank You

Husam Hasenin
Associate Engineer - Traffic
Transportation Engineering Division
(619) 533-3198
(619) 533-3651 Fax

if it makes ya'll feel better, I live in PHX, AZ and most HOA's out here will put a lien on your house if you park an RV/Toyhauler/5th wheel behind your RV gate in your back yard! now that sucks HOA's/city council/whoever says you can't park in your yard/front of your house!

Schedule update

The Mission Beach Town Council has requested an information-only report on the status and elements of the proposed Oversized, Recreational, and Non-Motorized Vehicle Parking Ordinance. The item has been scheduled for Wednesday, March 8, 2005 at 7 PM. Information about the location will follow.

If you have any questions, please contact me.

Thank You

Husam Hasenin
Associate Engineer - Traffic
Transportation Engineering Division
(619) 533-3198
(619) 533-3651 Fax

Sounds like you guys in SD need to get the backing of all of the trailer and motorhome manufacturers, and dealers.