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Permagrin
I ride dirt bikes. I have ridden dirt bikes about the time Edison Dye brought MX to us. I went to college. I learned, I got educated. I read, I study; again I learned.

You know what I learned? That in the two billion years the planet has been around and has survived everything from birth of the universe: meteors, comets and the formation of water from oxygen and hydrogen(imagine the power it would have required to do that at the scale that it happened), to the drying of the land mass, and the evaporation of the seas to provide the atmosphere ( again, imagine the power to do that!)

The beginning of the formation of amino acids and proteins, which came together, got sparked and wow, now we have life. I would have to believe that it didn't just start with one cell, as the probabilities of survival would be zilch.

The cellular generation of complex bio-systems to insects and crustaceans, then fish, air breathers, dinosaurs and finally mammals and humans, which have only occupied the planet for about 4 million years, give or take an epoch.

I learned of the incredible arrogance of the people who believe that we actually are powerful enough to permanently damage or change the earth?! After what … 2 billion years of change?

To think that we as a collective or as individuals could effect enough on our environment, something that in the 4 millions years of us being around we have, Oh about what, maybe 150-200 years of history study and documentation.

Global warming? I don't think so. Ozone loss? Maybe... probably not. Destroying the fragile eco system? Geeeez, give me a break. This is the earth, right?

We are dealing with educated alarmist who for their own interest are waging a war against the people who express freedom and the American way, and they're probably stronger than any one group.

What we need is to educate ourselves and then the rest of the world on what the SIMPLE truth is. We, as a race, will not change the world. We, as a race, do not have that kind of power over the earth.

We may in our stupidity eliminate ourselves. There may be a life threatening event such as a big ass comet falling on our heads, or at least change the tilt axis again to where it was before (single biggest contribution to the change in land mass). Bet that would stir the pot.

Did you know that a whole bunch of really smart geologists spent a lot of money, had a lot of trick scientific things, went out to find out exactly how much oil the united states had in reserve and at the current projected consumption rate how long before we ran on empty?

Well, guess what? They DONT KNOW. You know why they don't know? Because they can't find the damned bottom of the deeper oil cavities. Don't know, machine can't see it, too far down, They do know that a very large oil reserve starts at about Manitoba to the south, goes over the pole to well inside Russia, all the way to Alaska on the left and Greenland on the right. Big huge and at least 5-20
miles down.

Remember, the earth is about 8000 mile in diameter and we figure the core is about 4000 miles in diameter with mantle leaking up to about 6000 miles. So what's the rest of it made of? Well, there is some speculation based on fact that a great part of it is hydrocarbon in some from or other.

One thing to remember: the earth is still cooling. Yes, that's right; after billions of years, it's still not done folks. And like the solar furnace that gives us life, it's got a long way to cool. When it does it will probably no longer support life, but that's not in our near future.

All right, so where does all this leave us? Well, education. Remember the
wilderness fight mess? Turns out all of this land closure is the reason we
have so many big fires that we can't control. Gee, now there's a surprise, How
do you make a forest thicker; you prune it right? Just like auntie Emma's
rose's.

We need to do a better job of educating, and understanding the facts a lot better then our tree hugging, land closing, dirt bike, off road, horse back, bashing buddies do. Certainly they are very educated. Enough to truly distort the facts to those who are not.

Tread lightly, be aware, become knowledgeable in the issues, fight back. Peace love happiness, and roost.

Joe (Joeracer) Wytman
Live and well in San Jose.
Slappy
Slap gonna put dat one in da McScrappbook no doubt. Dat was some interestin readin WFO WR500. A beautimus piece...And Slap really like da way you push da edumicating part.

[This message has been edited by Slappy (edited 05-05-2002).]
Bluesky
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We may in our stupidity eliminate ourselves.
DesertViper
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We may in our stupidity eliminate ourselves.

Ohh be quiet.


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DJ~DesertViper
Blue is the only way to go~YZ250
Bluesky
is this the same desert viper that used to hang out with the original Mr Dune? The guy with the 2 ak47s?
BamBam
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Originally posted by Bluesky:
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We may in our stupidity eliminate ourselves.


I think he means we'll destroy ourselves via war or some event of that nature. Not destroy the earth which in turn kills us.

Very Good view Joe
Shane-0
No Blu, that isn't the same Desert Viper. Not that it should matter if it was. I wondered how long it was going to take you to say something about his choice of screen names.
Robbie
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Originally posted by Bluesky:
is this the same desert viper that used to hang out with the original Mr Dune? The guy with the 2 ak47s?



Is there a problem with AK's?
Personally, I think they are a wonderful firearm. Very sand friendly.



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Shane-0
I agree Robbie. Although I'm more of an SKS fan myself.
DesertViper
Im sorry if I wasnt aware of my screen name affending you, im only 15 ya know...


The real reason I picked this name is because i like the desert and the car I want is a dodge viper, plus I like the snake.

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DJ~DesertViper
Blue is the only way to go~YZ250

[This message has been edited by DesertViper (edited 05-08-2002).]
motoman
jesus christ Bluesky you sure are a nosie sack of ****. if dv was the dv you are thinking of how does is affect you ****in day? if he was the guy your think of would it affect your month? would it affect you year? or even your whole life? NO!!! IT WOULDN'T!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Fireballsocal:
400ex will be perfect. He's not going to get mad at the extra power, it handles great, and the damn thing is bulletproof. Change the oil, clean the filter, and watch it last for 10 years.

Shane-0
Nice job moto. Although things like that are better said without the cuss words. I understand that you were mad(as was I) at Greenhazes apparent inability to do anything but accuse people of being someone they are not. IMHO it shows that we are a better class of people(which I know we all are), if we are able to get our point across just as clearly without all the "*****"'s. IM me sometime, you sound like a cool kid. I have msn messenger, address is in my profile.

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motoman
ahh just made me angry user posted image
Copper
I have a couple AK47s. Maybe I'm the one you're thinking of.
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