Florida Enacts Off-Highway Vehicle Trails Law
6/03/02
Legislation Requires State to Develop System of OHV Recreation Areas and Trails
Irvine, Calif., May 30, 2002 – Florida Governor Jeb Bush today signed into law the "T. Mark Schmidt Off-Highway Vehicle Safety and Recreation Act," legislation that requires the Division of Forestry to develop and maintain a system of OHV recreation areas and trails on public lands. This legislation, backed by the Motorcycle Industry Council, also calls for a report to be submitted to the governor and the Florida Legislature by Jan. 1, 2003 recommending five locations for public access and OHV recreational use. The division also must publish a guidebook to include laws and regulations relating to the program and maps of the system’s OHV areas and trails.
"Our efforts to enact the legislation have at times been frustrating, but in the end paid off with the passage of this milestone trails law in Florida," said MIC’s Vice President of Government Relations, Kathy Van Kleek. "I commend the Legislature for recognizing the need to provide OHV riding opportunities in the state and I commend the Florida Trail Riders for working so tirelessly to communicate this need to their elected officials."
Van Kleek sees the new legislation as a first step toward improving Florida OHV recreation. The law requires OHV titling fees be used to fund the program. However, OHV registration fees, which are paid annually and provide a larger base of revenue, are a preferred funding source, she said.
"Legislators were reluctant to impose additional fees, especially before the program is up and running and providing benefits to Florida riders," Van Kleek said.
This MIC-backed legislation is named in honor of the late Florida motorcycle dealer Mark Schmidt, who had ardently supported creation of a state trails program. For several years, MIC has taken the lead in advocating legislation to provide off-highway motorcycle and ATV riding opportunities in the state, in cooperation with the Florida Trail Riders and local dealers. The Florida Legislature passed House Bill 1681 on the last day of its 2002 session.
MIC President Tim Buche cites enactment of this law as an excellent example of MIC working together with rider and dealer groups to protect and enhance the future of OHV recreation.
"MIC will continue to work in the state to provide viable funding for ongoing development and maintenance of the trails system," he said.
The Motorcycle Industry Council (MIC) is a not-for-profit, national trade association representing manufacturers and distributors of motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles, scooters, motorcycle parts and accessories and members of allied trades located in Irvine, Calif.
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You can not stop us!!!!! Buuuhhahahahahah!!!
Full Version: How does this taste Bluesky?
quoteQUOTEMIC President Tim Buche cites enactment of this law as an excellent example of MIC working together with rider and dealer groups to protect and enhance the future of OHV recreation.
sounds like you're getting all the government you're paying for
At some point, someone will notice the damage and nuisance caused by the riders and will close these new areas. Public lands belong to all the public, present and future generations. To allow a deep-pocketed group to permanently damage public lands for their own specific uses is contrary to the mandates of BLM, USFS, National Parks, etc. If they would buy private lands to put the parks on and control the uses of them, I would support it.
What you claim the OHV'rs are doing is exactly what certain enviros are trying to do yet your wrong and so are the enviros. These areas will not be closed down to anyone but OHV'rs. Anyone can use the trails. If the enviro's had their way, only certain people could use the area. Not OHV'rs, not mountainbikers, not horseback riders, not 4 wheelers. So where do they go? It's ok to track up private land but touch public land with a knobbie and you get all crazy like.
Maybe California will take heed of the Florida bill and start it's own. I suppose if our riding areas hadn't been closed down by the greenies for all these years, we wouldn't have to resort to legislation. Guess we have to give the greenies a taste of their own medicine.
Maybe California will take heed of the Florida bill and start it's own. I suppose if our riding areas hadn't been closed down by the greenies for all these years, we wouldn't have to resort to legislation. Guess we have to give the greenies a taste of their own medicine.
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Originally posted by Bluesky:
sounds like you're getting all the government you're paying for
At some point, someone will notice the damage and nuisance caused by the riders and will close these new areas. Public lands belong to all the public, present and future generations. To allow a deep-pocketed group to permanently damage public lands for their own specific uses is contrary to the mandates of BLM, USFS, National Parks, etc. If they would buy private lands to put the parks on and control the uses of them, I would support it.
That is the dumbest, most assanine, immature, craziest thing I've ever heard bluesky. Look you greenies have 1000's of square miles of non-touched, non-OHV land in the great plains of this country, in the sierra nevadas, in the rockies, etc etc. Why can't the OHV'rs have a few 1000 acres to ride and have fun? What's up your A$$ that you can't let us do that? Just don't go visit the spots that you Greenies so nicely should set aside for us and you won't have to complain about the sound. I personally like the sound of my bike and other people's toys. But, of course, you could care less about how I feel about it because I'm an OHVer, not some dork with a pocket protector trying to fight "to keep our land for future generations". Give me a break.........Wait a second, I AM trying to keep our land for future generations. I'm trying to keep Glamis open so my DAUGHTER can experience the thrill and awe of riding the hypnotic sand dunes. And I'll tell you what, if they get shut down, I'm not going to be walking around miles of deserted sand, that's almost impossible to walk in, just to show her China wall, and I bet NO ONE WILL EVER GO OUT THERE AGAIN....including Greenies(especially greenies..you're all to weak)
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bam bam, don't worry, they'll never stop us old school trike riders. they gotta catch us to bust us if it ever got closed. the only hiking i'll ever do out there is from the saddle of my steel horse to the bushes to pee, or from my lawn chair to the closest icechest for refreshments. p.s. blu is daniel patterson
How come 'public' doesn't include me when it comes to public land. I think we should be commended for our efficient use of public land... 1/4 million people using a few thousand acres sounds a lot better than the 1+ square miles per visitor ratio that it takes to satisfy the greenies on the other side of the highway. Talk about wasting natural resources!!
-D
-D
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Originally posted by Deez:
I think we should be commended for our efficient use of public land... 1/4 million people using a few thousand acres sounds a lot better than the 1+ square miles per visitor ratio that it takes to satisfy the greenies on the other side of the highway.
-D[/B]
Damn good point Deez.
quoteQUOTEI think we should be commended for our efficient use of public land...
the problem is the long term effects of your use of public land. If you cause the demise of sensitive plants and animals this will have an effect on all the public, present and future...this is unacceptable use of public lands.
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Originally posted by Bluesky:
the problem is the long term effects of your use of public land. If you cause the demise of sensitive plants and animals this will have an effect on all the public, present and future...this is unacceptable use of public lands.
Oh yeah, that's because my great, great grandchild (and general public)will cease to exist because there is no more Pierson's Milkvetch. I forgot about how important to life that weed is. Or maybe because there are tracks in the desert (the few square miles we get) where the motorcycles ride (with bushes that grow around the tracks). Maybe I should stop killing the crab grass and dandellions in my lawn, that might have a detrimental effect on the future public. Thanks for the headsup Bluesky.
Hey Blue! Can you do me a favor please? With all of your wisdom, will you get my yard declared endangered? I could save a lot of money without my gardener, but best of all, I could get my wife off of my back about keeping it so perfect!
quoteQUOTEI forgot about how important to life that weed is.
what you and most off-roaders fail to see is that an ecosystem is made of many different elements which contribute to its complexity and stability. If science and green advocates have at long last isolated a few plants and animals that can show obvious negative effects of off-road impacts, this really means there are dozens if not hundreds more life forms at risk that haven't been identified yet.
If you're sincere about wanting to preserve the ecosystems of which we are a part, you'll educate yourself as to what makes a stable ecosystem and do whatever you can to minimize impacts to it.
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Originally posted by Bluesky:
the problem is the long term effects of your use of public land. If you cause the demise of sensitive plants and animals this will have an effect on all the public, present and future...this is unacceptable use of public lands.
Last time I saw a library being built I noticed how devestating that was to the land. They leveled the whole field and paved it over. I didn't see you complaining and protesting about saving that land for future generations. Maybe It's ok if they are going to use the land for something that you like and not neccessarily what is good for the environment. Hmmmm...
And you can save the condescending "stable ecosystem" speech. My cousin is an environmental professor and we have had this conversation many times. The "stable ecosystem" pitch was designed as a vessel to gain support for anti-technology groups like the sierra club and CBD from people with moderate to low intelligence with some college education.
Basically the bottom line is that it has now been discovered that this weed is growing like a weed and is not only not threatened but actually thriving at Glamis. How much effort are you going to put into removing it from the ESA's "public extortion" list to correct a listing error. With approx. 200,000 of these plants documented in the dunes it is hard to believe it is endangered.
-D
Heck,
I wish it WOULD finally die off! I'm tired of dodging the darn thing while I'm trying to ride the dunes!
:::READ SARCASM:::
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May the Dune Gods Smile Upon You
ShiftingDunes.com
I wish it WOULD finally die off! I'm tired of dodging the darn thing while I'm trying to ride the dunes!
:::READ SARCASM:::
Vor
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May the Dune Gods Smile Upon You
ShiftingDunes.com
quote:
Originally posted by Bluesky:
what you and most off-roaders fail to see is that an ecosystem is made of many different elements which contribute to its complexity and stability. If science and green advocates have at long last isolated a few plants and animals that can show obvious negative effects of off-road impacts, this really means there are dozens if not hundreds more life forms at risk that haven't been identified yet.
If you're sincere about wanting to preserve the ecosystems of which we are a part, you'll educate yourself as to what makes a stable ecosystem and do whatever you can to minimize impacts to it.
But we are doing what we can to minimize the impact. WE RIDE WHERE WE SUPPOSED TO RIDE, IN THE DESIGNATED OHV AREAS. What else do you want? Jeesh. I mean COME ON. How much space does your "ecosystem" need? Every hear of evolution? You don't think plants and animals can adapt and over come? We know that the impact that ohv's have isn't that much. We aren't idiots over here Blue. That's just a pitch you throw at the courts. 100,000 bikes and buggies in Glamis for New Years is ignsignificant to the whole ecosystem. You know what, nevermind, this will go no where. Now go jump in your SUV, go to the mountains and drive to where you need to go do your "test".
You guys are wasting your time trying to have a logical conversation with an I****.
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[This message has been edited by DuneTroll (edited 06-05-2002).]
What was wrong with the word "IDIOT"?
Bluesky, you recite the "complex, fragile ecosystem" line chapter and verse, time and time again, as if you read it in a Sierra Club newsletter. I'm convinced that you actually have no idea what you're talking about. You're no environmentalist--you're simply an anti-OHV activist with nothing of value to add to any conversation. I can only pity the woman who has given over her life to staring at the back of your pitiful head while you pi$$ away time at the computer, an angry little man with nothing of value to say. You are contributing nothing to this planet but CO-2 and human (and verbal) excrement.
And I mean that in the best possible way!
And I mean that in the best possible way!
5thgearpinned:
What paper was this in?
Jon
What paper was this in?
Jon
from reading blu's postings, I think it's evident that this is a personal grudge he seems to have against OHV'rs... To say that we are detrimental to the ecological balance and use that premise in order to get us banned from enjoying land is like arguing that we should all return to the stone age and run around like the hunter and gathering societies used to. There are sooooo many other processes and activities out there that harm the environment in much more severe ways; and, if you're really an environmentalist, you should know this and would not be messing with, what I like to call, an elite group of people, who have invested money in recreational toys and just like to have a good time. I think I speak for others when I say that wherever we go riding, we make every effort possible to clean up after ourselves and try to leave the area "cleaner than when we encountered it".
In my personal and unprofessional opinion, I think, blu, that you have nobbie tracks all over your back from being run over by a bike as a kid and are still suffering from that traumatic experience.
In my personal and unprofessional opinion, I think, blu, that you have nobbie tracks all over your back from being run over by a bike as a kid and are still suffering from that traumatic experience.
Maybe we should have a "BLM-Aid" Concert. First we clear a huge swath in the closure. So what we take out a few "mv's" along the way...we're doing it for the good of all. Build a huge stadium at the closure. Pave a nice runway (gotta let the planes with the rockstars land). Add a few hundred vendor stands..."Ooops..hey Jack you just set your hot-dog stand on another Milkvetch (oops)." Invite the environmentalists (heavy emphasis on "mentalists") let them walk park their Mini-vans in our new open air parking lot (another few hundred acres cleared), give them some evian and brochures and play John Denver tunes in our new stadium. All proceeds to benefit BLM.............not... give it to GD.com!!! [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Crowdog: I got it off the RacerX website.
Late.
Late.
Nothing is wrong with the word "idiot" but I am guessing that making a post that only calls someone an idiot is out of line.
Vor
Vor
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