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PICKERINGTON, Ohio -- Groups that are attacking the safety record of all-terrain vehicles are ignoring vital data concerning these popular off-highway vehicles, reports the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) and All-Terrain Vehicle Association (ATVA). And in doing so, ATV critics have tried to make an improving safety record look like just the opposite.

A coalition of groups made up of the Consumer Federation of America, the Natural Trails and Waters Coalition, the Bluewater Network and others has called for tighter federal and state regulation of ATVs, including a total ban on all ATV use by riders under the age of 16, saying that there has been a "hidden epidemic" of ATV-related injuries. But in fact, the numbers cited by the groups actually show that ATV use is getting safer.

In a press conference and orchestrated media campaign, the anti-ATV groups charged that between 1993 and 2001, the number of injuries related to ATV use more than doubled. But the group failed to note that during that same period, the number of ATVs in use in the United States nearly tripled, to about 7 million today. That means an individual ATV operator was actually much less likely to be injured in 2001.

"These groups are conveniently ignoring the remarkable growth in ATV sales in recent years," said ATVA Director Doug Morris. "Simply put, there's been a tremendous increase in the number of people riding ATVs, and on a per-rider basis, the sport is much safer today than it was a decade or more ago."

Morris noted that in 1988, the ATV industry entered into a consent decree with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) that the federal agency said would result in "far-reaching and comprehensive relief designed to reduce the risk of injury associated with ATV usage." That agreement included an end to the sale of three-wheeled ATVs, age restrictions for those operating ATVs, safety information on the vehicle as well as in the owner's manual and an ATV safety public awareness campaign. Most importantly, though, it resulted in the creation of a nationwide rider-training program available free of charge to all new ATV buyers. And even though the consent decree expired in 1998, ATV manufacturers voluntarily continue to follow the agreement.

In calling for the nationwide ban on ATV use by those under the age of 16, the anti-ATV groups charged that this sweeping measure is necessary because of problems that result when children attempt to handle larger, more powerful ATVs. But Morris pointed out that under the longstanding agreement between the ATV industry and the federal agency, only the smallest ATVs--those with engines displacing 90cc or less--have been sold for use by riders in that age group.

In addition, Morris questioned the motivation behind some of the groups involved in this attack on ATVs. He noted that the Natural Trails and Waters Coalition and the Bluewater Network have never had any involvement with or interest in ATV safety. Instead, their agenda is to block access to public lands for ATV riders and others involved in motorized recreation.

"Including these anti-access organizations in this coalition makes for an odd alliance at the very least," said Morris, "since the interests of two of the coalition partners are in eliminating ATVs, not making them safer."

Morris noted that the AMA, the ATVA and other motorized-recreation groups
will continue to support the ATV industry's ongoing efforts to make ATV riding
safer.

"The ATVA is a strong supporter of riders getting training, wearing proper riding gear and obeying all laws as part of a comprehensive safety effort," Morris said. "The ATVA also very strongly supports close adult supervision of children riding proper-sized ATVs. I invite groups concerned about ATV safety to work with the ATVA to take steps that improve safety."

The American Motorcyclist Association is a nonprofit organization with more than 250,000 members. Established in 1924, the Association's purpose is to pursue, protect and promote the interests of motorcyclists, while serving theneeds of its members. For more information, visit the AMA website at www.AMADirectlink.com. The ATVA is the all-terrain vehicle arm of the AMA. For more information, visit the ATVA at www.ATVAonline.com.
Bluesky
looks like gotdunes could lose some money if restrictions on ATVs were to be imposed
GotDunes.Com
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Originally posted by Bluesky:
looks like gotdunes could lose some money if restrictions on ATVs were to be imposed

Blue Sky,
I don't live in PICKERINGTON, Ohio, I live here in Calif. I just put that up for others to see, since it got emailed to me.
Thanks for the concer, thou. [Big Grin]
Bluesky
quote:
A coalition of groups made up of the Consumer Federation of America, the Natural Trails and Waters Coalition, the Bluewater Network and others has called for tighter federal and state regulation of ATVs
did you miss that?
DocHolliday
And of course making money and profits are evil.
mxracer458
I dont understand alot of these groups and people!Do they not have anything to do all day but think of things they can try to outlaw or ban?Ive been riding over 20 years now and i very well understand the consequence if i take a bad spill,and im sure everyone else does on this board, when they throw there leg over the seat of a bike or quad.Should they band bicycles because people get hurt on those?,how about cars since people drive them drunk and kill themselves or other people?,what about sewing machines since woman poke themselves with the needle?,its just a endless bunch of bullcrap and if i wanted to live in a state were i couldnt do damn thing but wake up and do nothing all day i would move to deleware or somthing.These people need to wake up and realize not everyone is as boring as they are and we dont wanna die unhappy because our life sucks they do jackcrap all day!!When i die i wanna say the best thing is going around a bowl at 5th gear tapped doing 60mph and then dropping into another!!I dont wanna die living in a boring world of nothing and waking up and doing yardwork everday!!These idiots need to be stoped
Poiks
Funny that Bluesky is talking about losing money. On another board, I read that Bluesky is trying to take over ownership of Bowen Ranch without paying a penny for it. This is all hearsay, of course. I'd hate to tarnish her sparkling image unfairly.
Bluesky
I just thought it a propos that the first people to complain about potential limitations to the sales and use of ATVs are those that sell them.

I personally think there should be common sense rules governing the use of ATVs or any vehicle. If that means that small children should not ride these, then so be it. How would you like to lose a child through the manufacturer's ineptitude?

Of course, as a greenie, I resist the unlimited access to our natural areas afforded to anyone with a dirt bike or ATV. These people just don't seem to notice the ugly tracks left on the land by their passage. They don't seem to care about the numbers of animals that their hobby impacts. Children are even less conerned with the effects of OHV rec on our public lands.
Poiks
Yeah...those ugly tracks in the sand are an eyesore that lasts...oh, 20 to 30 minutes.

[ 08-29-2002, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: jkp ]
jhitesma
It's understandable you'd assume everyone had a profit motive BS. After all you spend that much time closely affiliated with an industry as money obsessed as the greens and you'll start to assume everyone is as bad as those you hang out with.

OH - and there are already common sense regulations around ATV's. In fact the industry has kept them up despite the fact they are no longer required to.

http://www.yumasun.com/artman/publish/story_1344.shtml

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ATV retailers play it safe with kids

BY LUKE TURF
Aug. 26, 2002


Frank Salazar wanted to buy his 11-year-old son Martin an all-terrain vehicle from a local shop. But due to the size of the off-road toy, Salazar had to wait until Martin turned 12.

And even after Martin's 12th birthday, he had to take a safety class or Liberty Motorsports' owner Louis Hirth wouldn't have let the deal go down.

"There are a number of times when you have to turn customers away," Hirth said.

Sending sand flying, 16-year-old Jason gallegos races across a dune at the Buttercup Recreation Area in the Imperial Sand Dunes Saturday afternoon. Photo by Charles Whitehouse
Hirth calls the situation a "real frustrating thing," but acknowledges safety is the most important thing, along with fun, when operating an ATV.

Both Hirth and Jeff Wilson, owner of Wild West Motorsports in Yuma, said they do all they can to make sure parents and children know how to handle themselves on the ATVs they buy.

Wilson said the people who sell ATVs in his store always ask customers the rider's age before anything else. At both stores there are guidelines for the sizes of riders younger than 12 years old and between 12 and 16 years old. And salespeople can be fired if they ignore the rules, especially since under- cover shoppers looking for stores breaking the rules aren't uncommon.

Hirth said the undercover shoppers are sent in both from the manufacturers of the ma- chines and the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

"As a dealer it's our responsibility to make sure we sell the vehicle to the age-appropriate person," Wilson said. "We're all trained by the manufacturers on the sizes."

The off-road industry has caught some heat recently because groups trying to ban ATVs for children's use are citing an increase in injuries and deaths. But according to the American Motorcycle Association, the numbers of deaths and serious injuries are increasing at a slower rate than overall use, showing the machines are becoming safer.

According to groups seeking the ban, including the Consumer Federation of America, from 1993 to 2001, the number of injuries related to ATV use more than doubled. But AMA officials counter that the number of ATV users nearly tripled during the same time period.

Neither Hirth nor Wilson want to see ATVs banned for children under the age of 16 because they said a ban would take the family out of what they consider a very family-oriented sport. Nonetheless, neither of them are opposed to a licensing program for riders.

However, Wilson is quick to caution if a licensing program were to be required, he'd want to be sure the money stayed in the off-road community, by employing park rangers or something similar, before he'd throw his support behind it.

"I think it deserves to be investigated," Wilson said.

But both stores already offer, and in some cases require, safety classes. Both stores also offer up to $100 in U.S. savings bonds or cash as an incentive.

In the Imperial Sand Dunes, one of the area's most popular riding spots, serious off-road injuries don't occur to youngsters too often, said Bureau of Land Management spokesman Stephen Razo.

"It's very infrequent that I see anything (serious injuries) 16 (years old) and below," Razo said. "Since January, of the handful of injuries of 16 and under, (only) a few required hospitalization."

And that's music to the Salazar family's ears.

"I feel safe with him because he doesn't go fast," said Martin's mother Anna.

"He (Martin) wears his helmet and everything," Frank Salazar said.

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Luke Turf can be reached at lturf@yumasun.com or 539-6858.

Blue, when will you stop jumping to conclusions and assuming that eveyrone is the same as the few bad seeds you've had run-ins with - and stop to look at what's really going on around you?

That was the day I gave up on "environmental" groups - when I sat down and had a good hard think about what they were actually acomplishing vs. what they cliamed to be fighting for. And things didn't match up. Neither did where the funds go, how the funds were raised or now the numbers they use to get those funds from the masses are derived.

I'm all for getting more people to respect and enjoy nature - and even some of the people on this BBS really **** me off because they show no respect for the land they enjoy. But you've got to pick your battles wisely and going after legitimate legal riding areas where nothing is being dammaged does nothing but hurt your cause.
mxracer458
Ya i have to agree The ugly tracks we leave behind last maybe a day or so then the winds kick up and there all gone and the dunes turn to glass.I work in a enviromental company and i listen to these people wine and cry about every little thing.I think most of its flat out redicouls.We have so much of are area closed for riding that we have to ride tracks(which is fine since 99% of my riding is at the tracks)but even now all these damn enviro crazed people are trying to close those areas down now for birds bugs and so on.If u people would allow us to ride in a legal place it would prob make situations alot better in some cases.I dont know about you but i grew up riding and im gone die riding,im not gonna have some damn enviro greenie freak gonna stop me from riding.i went to a asa meeting and i cant beleive that a few of you actually went and said that u guys hike the dunes and its dangerous for u and buggies and bike and we should preserve it i think u guys are nuts for walking in the dunes,plus the whole other side is closed to off highway vechiles so go walk over there!!sorry just my 2 cents
dezfan1
So, ATV accident rates have doubled? What Bluboy and all the (I dont have anything else to do so I,m going to try to impose MY will on others) do-gooders fail to see is that ATV sales have more than doubled. Now I'm no math wizard. But, would'nt that be a net decrease in accidents! [Confused] I just dont get these idiots logic! [Angry Fire]

LIVE FREE OR DIE!

[ 09-13-2002, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: dezfan1 ]
dezfan1
Hey mxracer458, If those goons want to hike the dunes, They have the right! Why they would want to do this is out of my realm of reasoning. But, to each his own. But like you said, they already have thousands of acres North of Hwy 78 to do it. So the closing of the open areas that we use so they can HIKE? is a JOKE! [Big Grin] . Its not about hiking it's about control! [Angry Fire] And thats my two cents worth!

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JET
Yeah, WE allow them to hike anywhere they want to. Common sense should tell them to go north of 78 but WE do allow them to go on the south side too.
dezfan1
Hey guys! Guess what? I just got a new pair of hiking boots! It's only 103 at Glamis right now, anyone want to go and hike the dunes for a while. [Confused] It really sounds like fun doesnt it?! [Wink] [Wink] [Wink] [Wink] [Wink]

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