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SailAway
From the BLM:

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Hi,

Just got this announcement.  The Bureau of Reclamation (BOR) is proposing
to make some changes to the All American Canal.  That is the main big dirt
canal that runs west to east through the south Imperial Sand Dunes near
I-8.  They are having a public meeting next week.  Please see attached.
This project could have impact to recreation and access in the Dunebuggy
Flats / Gordons Well area.


Contact the BOR for more info.  The contacts are listed in the attachment.


Go here for the official notice.

Vicki
Chummin
Where is the Map?? Sounds like they plan to make Gordons in to a resivor?? Cool.. think they would allow boats on it?? icon_wink.gif J/K.. Would like to see that map though of where they propose to "store" water.
SailAway
There are two important meetings set for this, July 12th in El Centro and July 13th in Yuma:

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Open Houses

On July 12 and 13, 2005, the Bureau of Reclamation will host open houses to provide information and to seek your input on the project and its alternatives.  The first open house will be held Tuesday, July 12, at Imperial Irrigation District, 1284 Main Street, El Centro, California, from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. with a presentation about the project form 6:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m.  The second open house will be held Wednesday, July 13, at the Yuma Crossing State Historic Park, 201 North Fourth Avenue, from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. with a presentation about the project from 6:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m.  A period for oral comments and questions will be held from 6:30 p.m. until completion.  (All open house facilities are physically accessible to people with disabilities).  During these open houses, you will be able to view information about the proposed reservoir, its interconnection to the existing All-American and Coachella Canal systems, and existing site conditions in the area that would be affected by the proposed project (e.g., land uses, biological and cultural resources) and discuss the project and its preliminary alternatives with Reclamation representatives.


The official notice also gives alternate ways to comment besides publicly at the meetings.

Please try to make either or both these meetings.

Vicki
SailAway
QUOTE(Chummin @ Jul 7 2005, 09:39 AM)
Where is the Map?? Sounds like they plan to make Gordons in to a resivor?? Cool.. think they would allow boats on it?? icon_wink.gif  J/K.. Would like to see that map though of where they propose to "store" water.
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Apparently the map that is referenced wasn't sent with the original mailing and, according to the guy at the Bureau of Reclamation, it is still being "tweeked." He also said it will most likely change again after all the meetings and comment period.

He's going to let me know as soon as the map is available and I will, of course, post the information here.

Vicki
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If you have trouble reading it, here are JPGs of the pages:
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jhitesma
QUOTE(Chummin @ Jul 7 2005, 10:39 AM)
Where is the Map?? Sounds like they plan to make Gordons in to a resivor?? Cool.. think they would allow boats on it?? icon_wink.gif  J/K.. Would like to see that map though of where they propose to "store" water.
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The location the cite for building the resevoir is where the Current Brock Research Center is. Anyone who pays attention to the road signs coming to the dunes on I-8 from CA should know where that is.

It's about 3 miles west of the Gordon's well exit. The location resevoir itself should not be a concern for the ISDRA....but that dosn't mean we're in the clear.

There are still 2 big issues:

1) the canal they want to build to feed this resevoir. This could make the already inadequate entrance to Gordons even worse. We need to pay attention to where they put this canal and how it will affect access.

2) The canal will be built in land that was closed to camping to protect the FTHL (A Lizard) in exchange for the bridge between Buttercup and Gordons and any further restrictions on recreation to "protect" the FTHL. We need to make sure that mitigations for the canal (and possibly resevoir as well) don't include taking away recreation opportunities due to impacts on the FTHL. This is the BIG one to watch out for as the CBD are already unhappy with the agreements made about the FTHL and have filed lawsuits about it in the past (though thankfully haven't won them.)

So we don't have to worry about Gordon's being turned into "modern lake Cahuila" or anything like that...but we do have to worry about the impacts this will have and how they will affect our interests.

I'll do everything I can to be at the meeting in Yuma next wednesday. Anyone want to carpool?
jhitesma
Some info from a related story in the IV Press today:

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Millions allotted for water supply studies
By BENJAMIN ROGERS, Special to this newspaper

Friday, July 8, 2005 2:32 PM PDT
WASHINGTON (MNS) —Congress may soon take a step toward solving water supply problems in the Imperial Valley.

As part of a $31.2 billion spending bill, the Senate last week set aside more than $8.2 million for the Colorado Front Work and Levee System, much of it earmarked for feasibility studies for special reservoirs along the All-American Canal and for sediment removal behind Laguna Dam.

The money, significantly more than requested in President Bush's budget, would fund continuing work on the canal reservoirs, said Bob Walsh, a spokesman for the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation's Lower Colorado regional office.

Reclamation originally requested only $2.5 million for maintenance and studies. The House version of the appropriations bill increased that spending to $3.2 million and the Senate version passed with $8.2 million. The extra money is earmarked for studying ways to minimize water loss along the system.

The increased funding came at the request of governors from various Southwestern states, said Roger Cochran of the Senate appropriations staff.

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, along with California senators Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, pushed for the funding and even asked for more, but $8.2 was as much as Reclamation could feasibly use, Cochran said.

"There was a pretty united front on this thing," he said.

Because the bill was modified in the Senate, it still has to pass a Senate-House conference committee, which often compromises on money numbers, before any presidential signature.

Under the current system, irrigation water requested for the Imperial or Coachella valleys is released from the Imperial Dam into the system. The water takes about three days to arrive and if, because of rain or other factors, it is no longer needed upon arrival it flows unused into Mexico.

The new reservoirs would capture that unused water and save it for future orders, Walsh said.

Estimates submitted to Congress detail a system able to save up to 300,000 acre-feet more of water per year than the current system. That's enough water to supply the needs of 1.5 million users and enough to drop the water level of Lake Mead by three feet, said Jack Simes, a project manager at Reclamation's office in Yuma.

Some of the outlay would go to fund studies on the proposed All-American Canal Drop 2 Reservoir site west of the Imperial Sand Dunes.

The proposed site would sit on 621 acres and include two cells capable of holding up to 4,000 acre-feet of water each. A public hearing on the reservoir project is scheduled for 5 to 7 p.m. Tuesday in the boardroom of the Imperial Irrigation District, 1285 Broadway in El Centro.

Actual construction on any proposed reservoirs is still at least two years away, Simes said.


The extra money would fund feasibility studies for removing sediment behind Laguna Dam, a 43-foot structure just outside of Yuma. That dam, completed in 1909 and the first anywhere on the Colorado River, hasn't undergone serious sediment removal since a controlled flood release in 1983, Simes said. Until Reclamation completes its studies, however, it is unclear how much capacity would be freed by removing the sediment, he said.

Since the completion of the larger Imperial Dam in 1938, the Laguna Dam has served as a smaller flow regulator.
Chummin
Think we could ask them to widen it a bit.. ya know so we could water ski behing the buggies.. ??
LoBuck
More info posted

Here is a jpg of the map. Click on the image to go to a larger version.
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SOUTHERN BOY
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SOOOOOOO, it looks like it will be part in California and part in Mexico !!!!!!

I can't tell, does that map show it in Gordons ???? The green outlined tan area, or the pink outlined ???? blink.gif

Chummin
Mexico is the big line on the bottom. Does not look like its going there..
SOUTHERN BOY
QUOTE(Chummin @ Jul 16 2005, 09:50 AM)
Mexico is the big line on the bottom. Does not look like its going there..
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ENLARGE THE MAP, AND LOOK AGAIN AT THE INSERT AT THE TOP.......... beer.gif
PimpShackDave
QUOTE(SOUTHERN BOY @ Jul 16 2005, 11:09 AM)
QUOTE(Chummin @ Jul 16 2005, 09:50 AM)
Mexico is the big line on the bottom. Does not look like its going there..
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ENLARGE THE MAP, AND LOOK AGAIN AT THE INSERT AT THE TOP.......... beer.gif
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Look at the detail in the big map...just because the Mexico border is on the map doesn't make the project in Mexico. I think the fact that all of the project is contained north of the border on the map makes that clear enough. icon_confused.gif
SolMaster
SB can't read a map for s***. The insert at the top that you speak of shows the area covered in the detailed map below it. Remind me not to let you navigate anything ever. laughing.gif
Desertdogs
Um folks....I know I'm not a regular there, but those exits look like they are mis marked and mis-labeled.

The one marked as a Farm Exit is where Par-A-Dise and the McMIllin Co. have their spots, and that area woul decimate the Dune Buggy Flats...am I right? Look where they have the dunes plotted

OH yeah...good bye Test Hill!! Effers!
LoBuck
QUOTE(Desertdogs @ Jul 18 2005, 10:45 PM)
Um folks....I know I'm not a regular there, but those exits look like they are mis marked and mis-labeled.

The one marked as a Farm Exit is where Par-A-Dise and the McMIllin Co. have their spots, and that area woul decimate the Dune Buggy Flats...am I right?  Look where they have the dunes plotted

OH yeah...good bye Test Hill!!  Effers!
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No, the exits are marked correctly. Pair-a-Dice and McMillins are off Gordon's Well exit. The one marked Farm exit is Brock Research Road. Thta is where the USBR is proposing the reservoir to be located, on the old farm property.

The Cochella Canal is shown on the lower right (SouthEast) corner of the image. That is the canal that is crossed to get to Dune Buggy Flats.

That is not the dunes you see plotted, it is the desert topology. The dunes are noted in the very upper right corner (NorthEast) of the image where it is brown and says "Imperial Sand Dune Recreation Area".
Desertdogs
Well my bag..late nite and too much beer.gif
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