John
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Full Version: Outback's New Single Seater
This has been a car that iv'e wanted to build for three years now. Custom one-off frame (SU helped with the bending) SU front arms, fodrill rear arms. Frame material varys from .035 to .125 chromoly. we dry assemble car and it weighed 1040lbs we plan on slightly over 1100lbs. 119 wb. Motec mini dash will be the display. Tranny is a 2d and shifter is a custom sequential unit from GR race componets. Gas tank is 28gal one piece unit. the engine will be a highly modified four cylinder Subaru on methanol. it has 17" of travel up front with fox air shocks, rear is 16" travel with fox air shocks (that may change to coil over after first shakedown.)
John
Note: on the last pic the "Outback Mendeola Bellhousing" is shown. No adpater plate.
John
Note: on the last pic the "Outback Mendeola Bellhousing" is shown. No adpater plate.
Even as a mid engine, I think your gonna need a wheelie bar! 
That car is going to be sweet, talk about an e-ticket ride.
A single seater huh? Tired of hearing all those drunks at the drags asking for a ride? 
I like the way you think.
I like the way you think.
Wheelie bar: I've already bought the wheel, with the car fully assembled and me sitting in the car--it's about 200lbs to lift the front end off the ground. I can lift one rear wheel off the ground an inch by myself!
"E" ticket: oh yeah to say the least. It will even run a Motec funtion called "anti-lag"
before takeoff it will open the idle control and retard timing simutaniously causing huge heat to develop in the exaust--instant spool.
Tripod: you have no idea of how many times i get asked that question, so now no one will ask. The seat is fixed, and the belts, hood, pedals, and steering wheel are built to fit only me. Besides, most of my kids wouldn't want to ride in this thing.
"E" ticket: oh yeah to say the least. It will even run a Motec funtion called "anti-lag"
before takeoff it will open the idle control and retard timing simutaniously causing huge heat to develop in the exaust--instant spool.
Tripod: you have no idea of how many times i get asked that question, so now no one will ask.
The seat is fixed, and the belts, hood, pedals, and steering wheel are built to fit only me. Besides, most of my kids wouldn't want to ride in this thing.
can i ride in it - now turns into: can i drive it?
i had to try.
i had to try.
GOTTA LOVE THAT COLOR.
Where'd you stuff the radiator John? 
Are those single sheer mounts
J/K Car looks great, can't wait to see it in action
J/K Car looks great, can't wait to see it in action
The radiator is right behind the seat and is covered by cardboard--look close (the fan shroud/fans are removed right now).
Those are single shear on the rear shocks now because we're still designing the rear shock area and needed to get the car rolling. They will be finished with double shear
John
Those are single shear on the rear shocks now because we're still designing the rear shock area and needed to get the car rolling. They will be finished with double shear
John
I was just messin about the single sheer John, Suspensions cars are proven top quality.
I'm sure you already thought of this, but make sure you stick your airshox out far enough when you design the rear shock mounts. That way if you do decide to use a coil-over, the coils will clear the frame...but like I said, I'm sure you already thought of that.
it looks good I really like the look of the hard gas lines instead of the steel braided I might have to do the same and after the shake down run your going to want to throw those air shocks away we tried forever to dial those in and with your car wieghing in at around 1200lbs makes it worse especially with no rezzies on those things they will be milkshakes in no time....can wait to see it flying down the drags 
and after the shake down run your going to want to throw those air shocks away we tried forever to dial those in and with your car wieghing in at around 1200lbs makes it worse especially with no rezzies on those things they will be milkshakes in no time....can wait to see it flying down the drags
QUOTE(glamisoutback @ Jul 7 2005, 02:59 PM)
This has been a car that iv'e wanted to build for three years now. Custom one-off frame (SU helped with the bending) SU front arms, fodrill rear arms. Frame material varys from .035 to .125 chromoly. we dry assemble car and it weighed 1040lbs we plan on slightly over 1100lbs. 119 wb. Motec mini dash will be the display. Tranny is a 2d and shifter is a custom sequential unit from GR race componets. Gas tank is 28gal one piece unit. the engine will be a highly modified four cylinder Subaru on methanol. it has 17" of travel up front with fox air shocks, rear is 16" travel with fox air shocks (that may change to coil over after first shakedown.)
John
Note: on the last pic the "Outback Mendeola Bellhousing" is shown. No adpater plate.
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John
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Very nice John.
I'm getting tired of hearing the phrase
"According to John......you don't stand a chance"
Just another reason why.
BTW what's the cost of this fancy bellhousing, can a mere mortal afford it?
the airshox will be fine, although you may have to run two in on each corner in the rear to get enough dampening...and run one softer than the other. It's true that you could never get away with them on a LS1 powered 5 seater car...or something heavy, but with that lightweight car, they will work fine. It is a little different as far as tuning, but it's not that big of a deal.
I say you go with foxs internally bypassed shocks that way you can tell people 5 seaters suck bypasses are worthless and oh yeah your car is slow heres my card
Looks Good John!
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If building the car new and you don't own the adapter kit or tranny yet--it costs $250 more then the other pieces. If you already own the tranny and an adapter it will cost $830 and have parts left over
John
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Very nice John.
I'm getting tired of hearing the phrase
"According to John......you don't stand a chance"
Just another reason why.
BTW what's the cost of this fancy bellhousing, can a mere mortal afford it?
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]I'm getting tired of hearing the phrase
"According to John......you don't stand a chance"
Just another reason why.
BTW what's the cost of this fancy bellhousing, can a mere mortal afford it?
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If building the car new and you don't own the adapter kit or tranny yet--it costs $250 more then the other pieces. If you already own the tranny and an adapter it will cost $830 and have parts left over
John
QUOTE(kcpaz @ Jul 7 2005, 09:03 PM)
I'm sure you already thought of this, but make sure you stick your airshox out far enough when you design the rear shock mounts. That way if you do decide to use a coil-over, the coils will clear the frame...but like I said, I'm sure you already thought of that.
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Yes i have thought of that thats why there is a loose 1/2" bolt holding everthing on, I did drive in a 1400 lb 4 seater car with four air shocks and was amazed at how well it handled. I've also been told that I can convert these to "coil over" airshocks. Remember that this car will see limited use.......... however i may like the "fix" more often and find myself driving this more then the 2 seater
Thanks for all the comments
John
SHOULD BE A CRAZY RIDE...CANT WAIT TO DRIVE IT ,AFTER ALL ITS A ONE SEATER SO YOU CANT TAKE ME FOR A RIDE
HEY , HOW ARE YOU ADDING BOOST TO MY CAR TONIGHT AND RUNNING THE DYNO WHILE ON THE GLAMIS SIGHT....GET BACK TO WORK AND TELL ME HOW LOW MY HP NUMBERS ARE 
GET SOME SLEEP 
HEY , HOW ARE YOU ADDING BOOST TO MY CAR TONIGHT AND RUNNING THE DYNO WHILE ON THE GLAMIS SIGHT....GET BACK TO WORK AND TELL ME HOW LOW MY HP NUMBERS ARE
GET SOME SLEEP
The scoop that's on top of your intercooler. Where can I get one??? JEG's??? Summit???
That's a sick car. Hope somebody get's video of that thing......hint hint.
The base scoop was designed from a scoop found in Summit. It cost like $250 but was designed to be glassed into a hood. We put fourty hours into our mold and was exclusively made for our trapazoid intercooler. We sell the scoop alone for $300 but would probably not work well with any other intercooler because of the unique shape.
The thin rear metal bracket on my intercooler will be lazer cut out of .38-.50 alum and polished.
john
The thin rear metal bracket on my intercooler will be lazer cut out of .38-.50 alum and polished.
john
QUOTE(ChuckZilla @ Jul 7 2005, 11:10 PM)
That's a sick car. Hope somebody get's video of that thing......hint hint.
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I've never been scared of any car's power--I'm hoping this car will scare the crap out of me (the goal is around 1.5 to 1.75 lbs per horsepower)
QUOTE(glamisoutback @ Jul 7 2005, 08:50 PM)
The radiator is right behind the seat and is covered by cardboard--look close (the fan shroud/fans are removed right now).
Those are single shear on the rear shocks now because we're still designing the rear shock area and needed to get the car rolling. They will be finished with double shear
John
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Those are single shear on the rear shocks now because we're still designing the rear shock area and needed to get the car rolling. They will be finished with double shear
John
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Looks really cool! Should be a great test bed.
Two phunny on the shear/sheer thing.
sORRy, dROPped my cRAyON!
cArl
Looks good John- It's came along way since the last time I saw it. I can't wait to see it runnin' out at mother G.
That's going to be one fum car. I wish the wife would let me get a single seater 
QUOTE(XMikeX @ Jul 7 2005, 09:24 PM)
I say you go with foxs internally bypassed shocks that way you can tell people 5 seaters suck, bypasses are worthless, and oh yeah your car is slow heres my card
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I like that. I was thinking about writing "LEAVE NO DOUBT" on the rear wing.
Maybe that's a little too forward but, oh well
John
I know a guy with a low slung turbo VW rail that was talking all kinds of smack about how your not gonna be able to drive that car to the finish line, much less win any races. He thinks that your weight estimates are way low. Was saying something about how bad your tuning skills are and that you had better add a couple of cylinders before he sees you at the drags. He said that his rail would be IN EXCESS of the speed limit when he was through with you. 
I am the muther effin man. Aint no one gonna take me out of the game. John, I see you lurkin. You want some of this? 
methanol & a lot of boost, hmm, I'm thinking around 160 lb injectors. Your gonna need that 28 gallon tank
QUOTE(In Excess @ Jul 8 2005, 04:14 PM)
I am the muther effin man. Aint no one gonna take me out of the game. John, I see you lurkin. You want some of this?
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I think i'll replace my rear shocks with a fixed strut, then i can claim as much travel as you
(As i remember it's only about 3" and that's probably all tire squish) Then I'll hand you dinner Go big Green
john
QUOTE(SUBIE4ME @ Jul 8 2005, 05:13 PM)
methanol & a lot of boost, hmm, I'm thinking around 160 lb injectors. Your gonna need that 28 gallon tank
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160lbs and 100psi of pressure (or Load, or is it called something else?), Fuel pump draws 22amps, Fuel lines are 1/2" stainless. Hope the motor builder can keep this thing together
john
Nice looking ride John, cant wait to see that thing rock and roll!!!!!!!!!!!
Casey
Casey
I've Seen this thing and it is the BOMB, just nasty!!! My Money is with John... 
QUOTE(glamisoutback @ Jul 7 2005, 11:20 PM)
QUOTE(ChuckZilla @ Jul 7 2005, 11:10 PM)
That's a sick car. Hope somebody get's video of that thing......hint hint.
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I've never been scared of any car's power--I'm hoping this car will scare the crap out of me (the goal is around 1.5 to 1.75 lbs per horsepower)
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So am I dividing correct? 800 hp! Sweet John...can't wait to see her go.
John,just make sure you install a non broken steering wheel to this car.
Quirt says he's gonna rule all over you! He said he you beter be running at least 50 pounds of boost to get near him!
QUOTE(In Excess @ Jul 8 2005, 04:14 PM)
I am the muther effin man. Aint no one gonna take me out of the game. John, I see you lurkin. You want some of this?
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what the hell??? i didnt type this im not sure what i did post here but i know it wasnt this!!! ok which mod did this to me?
I did you effer and I thought it was pretty damned funny. You would have noticed it if you weren't blind. I'll change it back if you want though I don't remember what you said.
QUOTE(Mr. LV @ Jul 11 2005, 02:45 PM)
Quirt says he's gonna rule all over you! He said he you beter be running at least 50 pounds of boost to get near him!
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Mr L.V., Shame on you
You're just trying to stir the pot a little too much
Did i tell you that 50 psi is my low setting
Outback
stir the pot
How'd ya know???!!! Can't wait to see that thing in action! I guess I'm gonna have to put my car away when you pull up!! 
Lookin Great John.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work.
Hurry up and get that thing done. I want to see it run 
QUOTE(glamisoutback @ Jul 7 2005, 03:43 PM)
Tripod: you have no idea of how many times i get asked that question, so now no one will ask.
The seat is fixed, and the belts, hood, pedals, and steering wheel are built to fit only me. [right][snapback]1058369[/snapback][/right]So how tall are you?
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QUOTE(glamisoutback @ Jul 7 2005, 03:43 PM)
Tripod: you have no idea of how many times i get asked that question, so now no one will ask.
The seat is fixed, and the belts, hood, pedals, and steering wheel are built to fit only me. [right][snapback]1058369[/snapback][/right]So how tall are you?
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I'm 6'0" exactly, that means people below 5'11 3/4" and above 6' 1/4" couldn't possibly fit.
I actually have more room in this then any other buggy i've been in. One foot to the side rail on both sides. The closest bars are above my head but i set it up to were a helmet. It will have sheetmetal above my head too. I can enter through the side windows but the seat seems far away (kind of like getting into a 'vette but i also looking at entering throught the windshield and maybe having nets on the sidesJohn
Is that the same shifter in this thread?
http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....showtopic=47493
http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....showtopic=47493
Just wondering, it looks very similar to me. Has it been used yet? Did you like it?
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