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Quicksand
Can anybody comment on the use of a Toyota 4.7L V8 from a Tundra/Sequoia in a sandrail? I was originally planning on using a Nissan VG30DETT JDM V6 but I am not sure I want to plumb two turbos, intercoolers, etc. Both engines have roughly the same stock HP with the V8 having slightly more torque. I don't know much about the engine other than I like the one in my Tundra. Is the Tundra motor all aluminum? Could a stock Tundra engine computer be used? Any issues with the size of the Tundra engine (height, oil pan depth, etc.)? I believe the Tundra motor would probably have more potential for upgrades in the future. Any comments from you experts regarding the Toyota 4.7L, or pros and cons of the Toyota and Nissan engines, would be appreciated.
XDimitriX
I believe you can buy a supercharger kit from TRD (toyota) if the stock power isn't enough.
Quicksand
QUOTE(XDimitriX @ Jul 13 2005, 06:36 PM)
I believe you can buy a supercharger kit from TRD (toyota) if the stock power isn't enough.
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Yes, I have seen those TRD factory superchargers. That is one reason why I feel the Toyota V8 has more potential than the Nissan. I have also read in one of the Toyota V8 forums that the Toyota V8 is a very strong engine - someone even said maybe better than the 2JZ (one person's opinion). After intercoolers and everything for a Nissan JDM VG30DETT, the price of the two is probably comparable. I am really hoping somebody can comment about the weight, height, strength, etc. of the Toyota engine and how easy or hard it would be to utilize it (minus emission control equipment) in a sandrail with stock computer.
SUBIE4ME
QUOTE(Quicksand @ Jul 13 2005, 08:36 PM)
QUOTE(XDimitriX @ Jul 13 2005, 06:36 PM)
I believe you can buy a supercharger kit from TRD (toyota) if the stock power isn't enough.
[right][snapback]1067324[/snapback][/right]

Yes, I have seen those TRD factory superchargers. That is one reason why I feel the Toyota V8 has more potential than the Nissan. I have also read in one of the Toyota V8 forums that the Toyota V8 is a very strong engine - someone even said maybe better than the 2JZ (one person's opinion). After intercoolers and everything for a Nissan JDM VG30DETT, the price of the two is probably comparable. I am really hoping somebody can comment about the weight, height, strength, etc. of the Toyota engine and how easy or hard it would be to utilize it (minus emission control equipment) in a sandrail with stock computer.
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I just got done doing a megasquirt on a 1UZ motor (in a sand rail). That is the earlier 4.0 L version of the motor you are talking about. Very sweet motor. They have 7 mains, 6 bolt each. The block and heads are AL. There are 4 cams. They have VVT which controls both in & ex cams. They seem to run pretty well with a couple of turbos on them. icon_biggrin.gif
Toy Collector
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QUOTE(Quicksand @ Jul 13 2005, 08:36 PM)
QUOTE(XDimitriX @ Jul 13 2005, 06:36 PM)
I believe you can buy a supercharger kit from TRD (toyota) if the stock power isn't enough.
[snapback]1067324[/snapback]


Yes, I have seen those TRD factory superchargers. That is one reason why I feel the Toyota V8 has more potential than the Nissan. I have also read in one of the Toyota V8 forums that the Toyota V8 is a very strong engine - someone even said maybe better than the 2JZ (one person's opinion). After intercoolers and everything for a Nissan JDM VG30DETT, the price of the two is probably comparable. I am really hoping somebody can comment about the weight, height, strength, etc. of the Toyota engine and how easy or hard it would be to utilize it (minus emission control equipment) in a sandrail with stock computer.
[snapback]1067725[/snapback]



I just got done doing a megasquirt on a 1UZ motor (in a sand rail). That is the earlier 4.0 L version of the motor you are talking about. Very sweet motor. They have 7 mains, 6 bolt each. The block and heads are AL. There are 4 cams. They have VVT which controls both in & ex cams. They seem to run pretty well with a couple of turbos on them. icon_biggrin.gif


Would you be able to wire up a brand new Tundra motor? If so, how much do you think that would run?
DTA
QUOTE(Quicksand @ Jul 13 2005, 03:36 PM) [snapback]1067089[/snapback]

Can anybody comment on the use of a Toyota 4.7L V8 from a Tundra/Sequoia in a sandrail? I was originally planning on using a Nissan VG30DETT JDM V6 but I am not sure I want to plumb two turbos, intercoolers, etc. Both engines have roughly the same stock HP with the V8 having slightly more torque. I don't know much about the engine other than I like the one in my Tundra. Is the Tundra motor all aluminum? Could a stock Tundra engine computer be used? Any issues with the size of the Tundra engine (height, oil pan depth, etc.)? I believe the Tundra motor would probably have more potential for upgrades in the future. Any comments from you experts regarding the Toyota 4.7L, or pros and cons of the Toyota and Nissan engines, would be appreciated.


How much would you be willing to pay the engine alone, and electronics....I was wondering what the going rate on a used one was...I might know a place to get one...

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SUBIE4ME
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QUOTE(SUBIE4ME @ Jul 13 2005, 10:05 PM) [snapback]1067764[/snapback]

QUOTE(Quicksand @ Jul 13 2005, 08:36 PM)
QUOTE(XDimitriX @ Jul 13 2005, 06:36 PM)
I believe you can buy a supercharger kit from TRD (toyota) if the stock power isn't enough.
[snapback]1067324[/snapback]


Yes, I have seen those TRD factory superchargers. That is one reason why I feel the Toyota V8 has more potential than the Nissan. I have also read in one of the Toyota V8 forums that the Toyota V8 is a very strong engine - someone even said maybe better than the 2JZ (one person's opinion). After intercoolers and everything for a Nissan JDM VG30DETT, the price of the two is probably comparable. I am really hoping somebody can comment about the weight, height, strength, etc. of the Toyota engine and how easy or hard it would be to utilize it (minus emission control equipment) in a sandrail with stock computer.
[snapback]1067725[/snapback]



I just got done doing a megasquirt on a 1UZ motor (in a sand rail). That is the earlier 4.0 L version of the motor you are talking about. Very sweet motor. They have 7 mains, 6 bolt each. The block and heads are AL. There are 4 cams. They have VVT which controls both in & ex cams. They seem to run pretty well with a couple of turbos on them. icon_biggrin.gif






Would you be able to wire up a brand new Tundra motor? If so, how much do you think that would run?


Yes, I could do a tundra motor, but you might want to consider a jdm 4 liter instead. It has stronger internals, and is lighter.
Josh @ DanZio
FYI Stock tundra engine has tooth picks for rods.
Quicksand
QUOTE(DTA @ Aug 8 2006, 12:27 PM) [snapback]1793311[/snapback]

QUOTE(Quicksand @ Jul 13 2005, 03:36 PM) [snapback]1067089[/snapback]

Can anybody comment on the use of a Toyota 4.7L V8 from a Tundra/Sequoia in a sandrail? I was originally planning on using a Nissan VG30DETT JDM V6 but I am not sure I want to plumb two turbos, intercoolers, etc. Both engines have roughly the same stock HP with the V8 having slightly more torque. I don't know much about the engine other than I like the one in my Tundra. Is the Tundra motor all aluminum? Could a stock Tundra engine computer be used? Any issues with the size of the Tundra engine (height, oil pan depth, etc.)? I believe the Tundra motor would probably have more potential for upgrades in the future. Any comments from you experts regarding the Toyota 4.7L, or pros and cons of the Toyota and Nissan engines, would be appreciated.


How much would you be willing to pay the engine alone, and electronics....I was wondering what the going rate on a used one was...I might know a place to get one...

evil.gif


Ended up purchasing a Honda 3.5L V6. I don't recall now what the Toyota 4.7L was going for.
SUBIE4ME
QUOTE(Josh @ DanZio @ Aug 8 2006, 01:48 PM) [snapback]1793754[/snapback]

FYI Stock tundra engine has tooth picks for rods.



That's why the earlier 4 liter motor is a better choice.
Toy Collector
QUOTE(Josh @ DanZio @ Aug 8 2006, 01:48 PM) [snapback]1793754[/snapback]

FYI Stock tundra engine has tooth picks for rods.


If you don't plan on boostin' it, does that really matter?

Are there aftermarket rods for the 4.7?

I was told if I rev my B18A past 7500, I'd stretch the rod bearings. Well, since 1999 I've been shifting at 8200- 8500. What I was told will happen never has.

Just wondering cause... I don't build motors. icon_biggrin.gif
2DASAND
QUOTE(Toy Collector @ Aug 8 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]1793902[/snapback]

QUOTE(Josh @ DanZio @ Aug 8 2006, 01:48 PM) [snapback]1793754[/snapback]

FYI Stock tundra engine has tooth picks for rods.


If you don't plan on boostin' it, does that really matter?

Are there aftermarket rods for the 4.7?

I was told if I rev my B18A past 7500, I'd stretch the rod bearings. Well, since 1999 I've been shifting at 8200- 8500. What I was told will happen never has.

Just wondering cause... I don't build motors. icon_biggrin.gif


Maybe they meant you would stretch the muffler bearings? 15.gif
Toy Collector
Yeah, that's it.
gparrott
Just called my parts department TRD does make a supercharger for the Tundra, but does not offer it in California anymore. I'm sure that comes as a real surprise. We believe it is still available out of state.
Toy Collector
QUOTE(gparrott @ Aug 9 2006, 02:53 PM) [snapback]1796367[/snapback]

Just called my parts department TRD does make a supercharger for the Tundra, but does not offer it in California anymore. I'm sure that comes as a real surprise. We believe it is still available out of state.


It is but, I'm not sure if they make one for the '05-'06 model year motor.
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