I am thinking about going to this school. It looks like a lot of fun and I would love to be able to make my own rail or prerunner and learn how to TIG weld. Has anyone gone to it or in a class now thier? Are there jobs for you when you get out? I live in Phoenix, AZ and would like to stay here but I would care moving to CA if i had to(as long as Glamis isnt too far away). I am fresh out of high school so does that matter? Should I do something else before this school? I was thinking about getting a mechanical engineering degree if I didnt do this class. So I guess im asking if it is worth taking this class. Thanks
Steven
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Hi Steven!
The Wizard recently opened a school right here in Phoenix! It is next to the airport. As a matter of fact, Doug and I are on the way out the door to meet him in Laughlin!
We will post the # on Sunday! 
The Wizard recently opened a school right here in Phoenix! It is next to the airport. As a matter of fact, Doug and I are on the way out the door to meet him in Laughlin!
We will post the # on Sunday!
my son is in the class that just started this last monday, looks like a cool class, If
you were thinking about getting a mechanical engineering degree I would start on that first or do both, the Wizard classes are from 6-10 pm, your young, you could hang with a schedule like that. I met John the owner of the school the other night and he seems like a pretty straight up person, got a great school set up.
you were thinking about getting a mechanical engineering degree I would start on that first or do both, the Wizard classes are from 6-10 pm, your young, you could hang with a schedule like that. I met John the owner of the school the other night and he seems like a pretty straight up person, got a great school set up.
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I am thinking about going to this school. It looks like a lot of fun and I would love to be able to make my own rail or prerunner and learn how to TIG weld. Has anyone gone to it or in a class now thier? Are there jobs for you when you get out? I live in Phoenix, AZ and would like to stay here but I would care moving to CA if i had to(as long as Glamis isnt too far away). I am fresh out of high school so does that matter? Should I do something else before this school? I was thinking about getting a mechanical engineering degree if I didnt do this class. So I guess im asking if it is worth taking this class. Thanks
Steven
Oh and should I post this in another area?
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Steven,
Choice of ME degree or a Wizard degree???? Is this a choice?
Hands down get a BS in ANYTHING if you can.
You can always tinker with cars on the side and with an engineering degree you'll have a lot more money to buy one down the road.
Good luck with whatever endeavor you decide!!
Ben
QUOTE(duneatic @ Jul 29 2005, 04:39 PM)
I am thinking about going to this school. It looks like a lot of fun and I would love to be able to make my own rail or prerunner and learn how to TIG weld. Has anyone gone to it or in a class now thier? Are there jobs for you when you get out? I live in Phoenix, AZ and would like to stay here but I would care moving to CA if i had to(as long as Glamis isnt too far away). I am fresh out of high school so does that matter? Should I do something else before this school? I was thinking about getting a mechanical engineering degree if I didnt do this class. So I guess im asking if it is worth taking this class. Thanks
Steven
Oh and should I post this in another area?
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Oh and should I post this in another area?
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This class will give you some great skills that you can put to use in looking to get on with some good builders. From my understanding you can go to this school and also go to college at the same time because of how they structure the hours. Good luck in whatever you do.
I've been thinking of either going to this school or going to a grossmont college. The thing about going to the college is i can take some automotive classes and i can also take some welding and fabricating classes. I also can get certificates or degrees in welding/fabricating and all that stuff. That way i will have a wider variety to work with. I can go from working in a buggy shop to working in a hotrod shop, etc.
Plus i wont have to move to riverside for 6 months, i would be able to stay home. Also you get the certificates or degrees and i think having a welding/fabricating degree and some type of automotive degree is alot better.
Plus i wont have to move to riverside for 6 months, i would be able to stay home. Also you get the certificates or degrees and i think having a welding/fabricating degree and some type of automotive degree is alot better.
QUOTE(SHOCKER @ Jul 29 2005, 09:16 PM)
I've been thinking of either going to this school or going to a grossmont college. The thing about going to the college is i can take some automotive classes and i can also take some welding and fabricating classes. I also can get certificates or degrees in welding/fabricating and all that stuff. That way i will have a wider variety to work with. I can go from working in a buggy shop to working in a hotrod shop, etc.
Plus i wont have to move to riverside for 6 months, i would be able to stay home. Also you get the certificates or degrees and i think having a welding/fabricating degree and some type of automotive degree is alot better.
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Plus i wont have to move to riverside for 6 months, i would be able to stay home. Also you get the certificates or degrees and i think having a welding/fabricating degree and some type of automotive degree is alot better.
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I'm trying to get into an automotive class that is an internship program with a dealership and this class gets you GM certified. It is an ASEP program for those who know. I am pretty much in I just need to get hired at a dealership, and thats what is stopping me. So now i am looking at going to either college or Wizard. i wish my community college had fabrication/welding classes! Thanks for the help, from the sound of it I can get a good education from Wizard but it is better to get an engineering degree. Now I have to decide, Thanks.
Steven
Steven, it is my understanding that Wizard will teach you the basics of welding and fabrication. You will not be a pro when you get out. It is an excellent school and you will learn alot but it takes years of experience to be a pro.
There was a builder on this site that interviewed some of the graduates of the class and found them lacking. Welding upside down was the decision if I remember right. He was looking for an experienced fabricator though.
I would think that the school and the BS would go hand in hand, not choosing between them like you were talking about.
There was a builder on this site that interviewed some of the graduates of the class and found them lacking. Welding upside down was the decision if I remember right. He was looking for an experienced fabricator though.
I would think that the school and the BS would go hand in hand, not choosing between them like you were talking about.
The decision between a 6 week course and a 4 year engineering degree has alot more involved than what you are asking.
The difference between what a college graduate and a high school graduate over the life they work is well over 1 million dollars on average. Get the college degree if you have the ability to afford college. Just my opinion.
The difference between what a college graduate and a high school graduate over the life they work is well over 1 million dollars on average. Get the college degree if you have the ability to afford college. Just my opinion.
Does anyone have a link to a website?
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Does anyone have a link to a website?
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QUOTE(Lucky @ Jul 31 2005, 09:48 PM)
The decision between a 6 week course and a 4 year engineering degree has alot more involved than what you are asking.
The difference between what a college graduate and a high school graduate over the life they work is well over 1 million dollars on average. Get the college degree if you have the ability to afford college. Just my opinion.
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The difference between what a college graduate and a high school graduate over the life they work is well over 1 million dollars on average. Get the college degree if you have the ability to afford college. Just my opinion.
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The course is actually 6 months long, 2 nights a week, 4 hours a night. This would allow someone that is going to school, has a job etc to keep their normal life and attend school.
Does anyone know if they teach any design in the class? Important things like suspension geometry, chassis design for strength and lighter weight, car balance, etc. Or is it just teaching someone to be a shop employee and follow instructions?
They teach you how to build a complete rail, prerunner, rock crawler, or chopper. From safety in the shop to safety in the design. They teach you how to weld, TIG and MIG, and they provide a helmet, gloves for TIG and MIG welding, jacket, and some other stuff that is yours to keep. look here
Do you really think that I could go to a community college for an engineering degree and go to Wizards? I know getting the degree wont be easy so. This is a hard choice because I could be able to build a complete rail in 6 months and possible make decent money from that within a year if I get lucky with a job or I could get a 4 year degree and have a possibly better job after that. Would anyone hire an 18 year old that graduated from Wizards do you think? Thanks
Steven
Do you really think that I could go to a community college for an engineering degree and go to Wizards? I know getting the degree wont be easy so. This is a hard choice because I could be able to build a complete rail in 6 months and possible make decent money from that within a year if I get lucky with a job or I could get a 4 year degree and have a possibly better job after that. Would anyone hire an 18 year old that graduated from Wizards do you think? Thanks
Steven
I'm only asking this out of curiosity.
Does anyone know what curriculum The Wizard uses in his course? What sources of info were used, did he write it himself? What welding credentials does he hold, what teaching or curriculum development credentials does he possess?
Is he accredited by any educational association?
These are the questions I would ask myself about any course of instruction prior to attending. The value of the certificate you receive should be judged on the basis of the education you've earned. Accreditation and certification goes a long ways in the world of academic institutions, including trade schools.
Does anyone know what curriculum The Wizard uses in his course? What sources of info were used, did he write it himself? What welding credentials does he hold, what teaching or curriculum development credentials does he possess?
Is he accredited by any educational association?
These are the questions I would ask myself about any course of instruction prior to attending. The value of the certificate you receive should be judged on the basis of the education you've earned. Accreditation and certification goes a long ways in the world of academic institutions, including trade schools.
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I'm trying to get into an automotive class that is an internship program with a dealership and this class gets you GM certified. It is an ASEP program for those who know. I am pretty much in I just need to get hired at a dealership, and thats what is stopping me. So now i am looking at going to either college or Wizard. i wish my community college had fabrication/welding classes! Thanks for the help, from the sound of it I can get a good education from Wizard but it is better to get an engineering degree. Now I have to decide, Thanks.
Steven
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ASEP is a good program, GM school is at Glendale Community College, If you contact dealerships in your area you might find someone willing to help you. It also benefits the dealer.
I'm trying to get into an automotive class that is an internship program with a dealership and this class gets you GM certified. It is an ASEP program for those who know. I am pretty much in I just need to get hired at a dealership, and thats what is stopping me. So now i am looking at going to either college or Wizard. i wish my community college had fabrication/welding classes! Thanks for the help, from the sound of it I can get a good education from Wizard but it is better to get an engineering degree. Now I have to decide, Thanks.
Steven
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ASEP is a good program, GM school is at Glendale Community College, If you contact dealerships in your area you might find someone willing to help you. It also benefits the dealer.
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