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Meatball
I saw a Lifan 107cc engine on ebay anyone ever put one in a atc?
its not electric start so it seems like the kick start would hit the fender?
claims "This engine has more horsepower than a 125cc engine!"
any of u guys had any experiance with one?
42F67N
I put a lifan type motor 90cc into my 70 u have to have electric start u cant use the kicker unless u cut the fender and half ass kick it
Bansh88
kickstart would be sick! F the fenders
DUNE
I have one in my atc70 with the electric starter. Works nice but you may have to shorten the intake manifold by about an inch or so. The wiring harness that came with it is to long and needs to be shorten as well.
treshombre
Now thats just spooky shocker.gif

I just called Tom yesterday to discuss this very thing!

Maybe we should put together a group buy?

kenny g
i want one so does crypto
treshombre
well thats 3 already

3 more and we got a deal
treshombre
I think you have to buy a wiring harness and battery as well, no?
Esco
Still cant touch this thefinger.gif
DUNE
QUOTE(treshombre @ Aug 16 2005, 08:26 AM)
I think you have to buy a wiring harness and battery as well,  no?
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It should come with wiring harness but no battery. Remember you need to find a place to mount your battery...
kenny g
QUOTE(Mr.DUNE @ Aug 16 2005, 07:54 AM)
QUOTE(treshombre @ Aug 16 2005, 08:26 AM)
I think you have to buy a wiring harness and battery as well,  no?
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It should come with wiring harness but no battery. Remember you need to find a place to mount your battery...
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no problem with the battery mount hay we should all get these moters come down to the shop on a saturday and do a group install theres lots of room and plenty of tools and a fridg full of icdb's.
kenny g
5150 tim wants one also(pending sandpugs approval)
Meatball
I was thinking it would be a good engine for my next 70 just for the sand
it may not have much for fenders im gonna chop it so kick start would work
cause with the electric start with my luck im going to have alot of dead batteries

after i told my friend he wanted it so hes gonna put it in his 70 probably so when he gets it i can see how it is if its worth it or to get the 90
treshombre
Ok thats 4

need two more people, then we'll discuss logistics

I like that shop idea Kenny

lots of parking too....

just park in front of the guy next doors shop icon_biggrin.gif
Meatball
QUOTE(treshombre @ Aug 16 2005, 02:08 PM)
Ok thats 4

need two more people, then we'll discuss logistics

I like that shop idea Kenny

lots of parking too....

just park in front of the guy next doors shop  icon_biggrin.gif
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not counting me i hope, i cant get mine yet
treshombre
QUOTE(xr507 @ Aug 16 2005, 03:45 PM)
QUOTE(treshombre @ Aug 16 2005, 02:08 PM)
Ok thats 4

need two more people, then we'll discuss logistics

I like that shop idea Kenny

lots of parking too....

just park in front of the guy next doors shop  icon_biggrin.gif
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not counting me i hope, i cant get mine yet
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Nope , Sorry

Your thread has been officially hijacked ph34r.gif

Current engine buyers are:

Tres
KennyG
Crypto
5150TiM
Larry ( my neighbor)



Need 1 more & to verify Crypto and Tim

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5150tim
I'm in, I need to get started on the sandpug 70 anyway and she can't pull start one.
treshombre
Tim Speaks! shocker.gif thumb.gif

maybe we can get Dune Squad to play in the parking lot while we put all these engines in laugh.gif
treshombre
Paging Crypto 25bangin.gif
Esco
good luck and please refer to post #9
kenny g
crypto is in
42F67N
I was kick starting mine when i was still building it because the plastics were off when ya kick it ya hit the tire so the kicker only goes back a short way but on mine it was far enough to fire it up,only thing was to get the extra kick length i hadda put the kicker farther forward on the kicker splines so i didnt bolt it on that way after i kicked it i took the kicker off.
DUNE
when you're done it should look something like this.

I had to mount the carb facing forward because of the starter being in the way.
user posted image

here one complete.
user posted image
treshombre
Tom ,

Thats not a Lifan engine.

The starter is on the bottom of the Lifan and I would assume except the stock air filter setup.
treshombre
We need 1 more buyer
DUNE
QUOTE(treshombre @ Aug 18 2005, 12:42 PM)
Tom ,

Thats not a Lifan engine.

The starter is on the bottom of the Lifan and I would assume except the stock air filter setup.
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I know remember I told you what the name was, something like HAWHIN or some Chines name like that...

Also remember these motors are modeled after motorcycle engines not ATC's so there might be thing you need to redesign...
treshombre
Tom,

I know you know that I know ......

But your misleading my followers laughing.gif by telling them that they will need to ammend thier carb configuration 25bangin.gif


If you persist in this line of false information, we will be forced to give you a 10 day vacation from moderating icon_ninja.gif laugh.gif
DUNE
Man I'm way over do for a vacation, just ask the guys in the PI... laugh.gif
42F67N
I didnt have to use the manifold backwards ,i modded a stock honda manifold and used it.

user posted image
treshombre
42F67N,
Is that a lifan motor?

Do you have more pics of the bike? or are they already posted elsewhere?
DUNE
42F67N, were did you mount you battery at?

By the way nice install...
DUNE
Just a little info...

I don't know if any of you have noticed yet but you may want to remove the chain / sprocket cover because it won't match up to the new motors side case cover...
42F67N
Thats the best pic i have of the motor i just sold the trike because i have another one im redoing,the motor is a houyung something like that haha had alot of balls almost to much id say cause it seemed like all it wanted to do was wheelie,the battery box i made for it i didnt put on before it sold but i built one to go under the plastics on the frame by the back tire.

Few things dont work when doing this type of swap without mods like my cobra exhuast wouldnt work because of the bottom mount starter motor so i hadda make the flange a half inch longer.

I made my own shifter for it because the one that came with the bike ud have to have a size 2 foot to use it,and i had to mod the part that u bolt to the shifter shaft because it hit the footpegs

I used a z50 manifold that i ported out to match the opening on the stock one that came with the motor so i could put the carb on without having to turn it forward,also the factory airbox did work but i decided on the clamp on instead.

I hadda grind out the inside of the chain cover because it was hitting the chain.

Other small stuff but it was fun.

Heres my new lil guy im working on
user posted image

treshombre
42F67N

Did your engine have automatic tranny or manual?

just wondering how the brake,throttle,clutch lever would all go if I were to go manual

Thanks for the info BTW
kenny g
i think im going to to put my new motor in my 73 but i need a gas tank
42F67N
Mine was the auto clutch but i wouldnt see a problem making it a manual one.

another thing i didnt mention was the rear drum brakes arent good enough in my opinion to stop the trike safely from high speeds if you had to stop fast and missed downshifting or whatnot.
treshombre
Brakes? icon_confused.gif

We don't need no stinkin brakes laugh.gif

You mean putting my feet down won't work anymore?
42F67N
See anything i build i let my son ride so i gotta try to keep um safe as i can.
kenny g
well did our engins get ordered?
treshombre
Engines have been ordered and shipped icon_biggrin.gif

Be here next Tuesday Aug 30th thumb.gif
FordFreak967
how much were the motors?
what displacement?
treshombre
they were in a group buy, icon_biggrin.gif

Depending on how we like them we'll probably put together another group buy.....

I'd wait for those results


They were all 110 cc ( actaully 107cc)
4 speed ( all down )
Automatic trans
Elec start motors

If you have to have one right now ....look here

http://dratv.com/newreen.html

Although these are not elec start..

Call Jack and ask him how much for elec start

or wait till the next group buy icon_biggrin.gif





FordFreak967
how much did each of you guys pay?
Esco
hey did I order one
G1500
How did those motors work out for you guys?
treshombre
Motors are scheduled to be delivered today!!! icon_bouncy.gif burnout.gif burnout.gif burnout.gif icon_bouncy.gif

I'm gonna put mine in this Sat. hopefully
will give the results after that.

If Ford freak, Esco , & Mike want to do a group order we would just need 2 more people.

( need to order in groups of at least 5 engines)
kenny g
g1500 is looking at putting one of these in a 70
treshombre
Mike AKA G1500 smash.gif beer.gif blury.gif
Dunegoat
how much are they running? Ballpark
Bansh88
So, will someone have a stock carb I can buy?!
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