much better than those little compressors, and can do it all for around 150-200$ all you need is a tank, hose, regulator. 1/3 the price of "powertank".
great prices on tanks:
http://www.beveragefactory.com/draftbeer/tanks/co2.shtml
great prices on regulators:
http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/co2systems.htm
Full Version: Do It Yourself
Ive been using a setup like this for quite awhile. I use the 20lb. bottle and a 10' length of hose to run my nail gun at work, I also use it to power my NOS refill pump, its better than setting up a compressor. I just bought a new regulator at the welding supply and it was less than 70$, but I had to supply my own hose. I also bought a 5lb. bottle for using in the dunes. I've even run my air tools off it.
I built one for my Blazer a couple of years ago, it works great.
Can these units be filled with nitrogen to air up tires and run air equipment?
Was thinking about buying a cordless impact gun, but this might be better, and I can run all of my other air tools?
Was thinking about buying a cordless impact gun, but this might be better, and I can run all of my other air tools?
Mine is only set-up for CO2, but beverage factory also sells Nitrogen tanks.
Don't mean to hijack, but is one better than the other? CO2 or Nitrogen?
What is the price to fill a bottle?
What is the price to fill a bottle?
CO2 and Nitrogen have different valves on the tank
Nitrogen is somewhat more stable than CO2..so in tires temperature changes won't cause pressure changes as much.
I've been using a CO2 tank to fill tires for almost 6 years now and love it. Never had to run air tools off it but I know a number of people who do on a regular basis.
The tanks are the same but as mentioned above there are different valves so you can't fill one with the other and you have to have the right regulator. That so in their normal uses people can't hook the wrong tank up to the wrong thing.
I would suggest going with the biggest bottle you can easily deal with. I have a 5lb bottle and I've drained it from a full fill just taking my 35" BFG MT's from 7lbs in the sand up to 30 for the drive home. Would have liked to have put them all the way to 35 but didn't have enough in the tank after helping a few friends air some smaller tires up to "safe" road levels. On the other hand we have a 15lb tank that can do all the trucks in camp two weekends in a row without needing to be filled...the kicker. Filling my 5lb tank costs $12 last time I did it, a few days latter at the same store the 15lb tank was only $15 to fill.
I've been using a CO2 tank to fill tires for almost 6 years now and love it. Never had to run air tools off it but I know a number of people who do on a regular basis.
The tanks are the same but as mentioned above there are different valves so you can't fill one with the other and you have to have the right regulator. That so in their normal uses people can't hook the wrong tank up to the wrong thing.
I would suggest going with the biggest bottle you can easily deal with. I have a 5lb bottle and I've drained it from a full fill just taking my 35" BFG MT's from 7lbs in the sand up to 30 for the drive home. Would have liked to have put them all the way to 35 but didn't have enough in the tank after helping a few friends air some smaller tires up to "safe" road levels. On the other hand we have a 15lb tank that can do all the trucks in camp two weekends in a row without needing to be filled...the kicker. Filling my 5lb tank costs $12 last time I did it, a few days latter at the same store the 15lb tank was only $15 to fill.
20 lb tanks are a little bulky, but if you get aluminum versus steel they are'nt too heavy.
5lbs are handy, but as has been said, you'll be refilling it all the time.
they have their place on the trail and in dunes, but are'nt as cost effective as a compressor and the generator most people already have.
the hot ticket is to get in with someone who has spares sitting around all the time, restaraunts, bars, etc. we used to get them for $10 for a 20lb because of the volume.
5lbs are handy, but as has been said, you'll be refilling it all the time.
they have their place on the trail and in dunes, but are'nt as cost effective as a compressor and the generator most people already have.
the hot ticket is to get in with someone who has spares sitting around all the time, restaraunts, bars, etc. we used to get them for $10 for a 20lb because of the volume.
QUOTE(jhitesma @ Nov 16 2005, 12:32 AM)
Nitrogen is somewhat more stable than CO2..so in tires temperature changes won't cause pressure changes as much.
I've been using a CO2 tank to fill tires for almost 6 years now and love it. Never had to run air tools off it but I know a number of people who do on a regular basis.
The tanks are the same but as mentioned above there are different valves so you can't fill one with the other and you have to have the right regulator. That so in their normal uses people can't hook the wrong tank up to the wrong thing.
I would suggest going with the biggest bottle you can easily deal with. I have a 5lb bottle and I've drained it from a full fill just taking my 35" BFG MT's from 7lbs in the sand up to 30 for the drive home. Would have liked to have put them all the way to 35 but didn't have enough in the tank after helping a few friends air some smaller tires up to "safe" road levels. On the other hand we have a 15lb tank that can do all the trucks in camp two weekends in a row without needing to be filled...the kicker. Filling my 5lb tank costs $12 last time I did it, a few days latter at the same store the 15lb tank was only $15 to fill.
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I've been using a CO2 tank to fill tires for almost 6 years now and love it. Never had to run air tools off it but I know a number of people who do on a regular basis.
The tanks are the same but as mentioned above there are different valves so you can't fill one with the other and you have to have the right regulator. That so in their normal uses people can't hook the wrong tank up to the wrong thing.
I would suggest going with the biggest bottle you can easily deal with. I have a 5lb bottle and I've drained it from a full fill just taking my 35" BFG MT's from 7lbs in the sand up to 30 for the drive home. Would have liked to have put them all the way to 35 but didn't have enough in the tank after helping a few friends air some smaller tires up to "safe" road levels. On the other hand we have a 15lb tank that can do all the trucks in camp two weekends in a row without needing to be filled...the kicker. Filling my 5lb tank costs $12 last time I did it, a few days latter at the same store the 15lb tank was only $15 to fill.
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Thanks,
A lot of good info.
Sounds like a 20 lb bottle would be perfect for air and air tools for anything that might be needed in a weekend.
you get more fills/use out of a 10lb bottle of co2 vs. nitrogen, and co2 is much cheaper to fill.
I took Toms advice at the begining of this season and it has worked out great. Just can't use the cheapee yellow hose that came with my compressor, it got so cold I snapped it right off 
I got my set up with the tank and regulator for $175 at phoenix welding supply in phoenix, provided my own hose.
10lb tank by the way, kinda heavy but I bring a 100ft hose so I never move it.
I got my set up with the tank and regulator for $175 at phoenix welding supply in phoenix, provided my own hose.10lb tank by the way, kinda heavy but I bring a 100ft hose so I never move it.
CO2 is perfect for desert tires. Nitrogen is better suited for the racetrack. A tank of CO2 will also last longer than nitrogen. You can use it, just a waste of money over the CO2.
One more good thing about CO2 is when the tank gets low just put it in the sun
and it will gain pressure. I used it for the trim nail guns in my construction buisness
it was cheaper and easier than running a compressor for small amounts of air.
DON~~~
and it will gain pressure. I used it for the trim nail guns in my construction buisness
it was cheaper and easier than running a compressor for small amounts of air.
DON~~~
Okay, stupid ? #1
How long would a 10# tank usually last with simple airtools and tire fills?
As in, how many times could you fill a 1300 paddle up from flat on the rim?
How long would a 10# tank usually last with simple airtools and tire fills?
As in, how many times could you fill a 1300 paddle up from flat on the rim?
its hard to say, I was told to weight my tank to determine how full it is. I heard it can air up a 35" tire 30-35 times
One other nice thing about CO2 over nitrogen.
You can also use it in your kegerator
Well, I suppose if you're really into Guinnes and just have to serve it perfectally then you could use a Nitrogen tank in your kegerator...but you'll still need a CO2 tank as well
That's why I can't really say exactly how much you get out of a bottle. As well as tires ours spend most of their time hooked to 3-4 kegs of homebrew And I've never personally used mine with airtools since the 5lb bottle gets sucked down so quick on my 35" tires I don't want to drain it even faster with air tools!
You can also use it in your kegerator
Well, I suppose if you're really into Guinnes and just have to serve it perfectally then you could use a Nitrogen tank in your kegerator...but you'll still need a CO2 tank as well
That's why I can't really say exactly how much you get out of a bottle. As well as tires ours spend most of their time hooked to 3-4 kegs of homebrew
And I've never personally used mine with airtools since the 5lb bottle gets sucked down so quick on my 35" tires I don't want to drain it even faster with air tools!
Beware ! Once you get a CO2 tank everybody in camp wants to use it, at least thats how mine has been. I paid $9 to fill my 5lb bottle.
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