Ok here is the perfect chance to check out every ones cars and a better chance to see how they run. We are shooting a TV show on the dunes. I am putting together a dune ride Sat. morning FEB 18 at 10am meet @ Gordons Well Sand drags starting line. The more the better! With all these sweet LT cars we need to document them and get them on tape!

Don't be shy. A good chance your car will be on TV.

What TV show? Who is sponsoring it? What does it promote? Who is narrating? Is it politically motivated? Is it purely entertainment?

Just a few questions.

Vicki

Ya, what ^^^ said..

Whuts up?

its a lifestyle documentary DVD on the Imerial Sand Dunes. Which will be made for TV. The DVDs will be distruibuted through Best Buy, Target and Walmart. We want to show the progression of the Sand Dunes. How they were and how they are now. It will be a "Warrn Miller" style video with lots of interviews and lots of riding. It is purely entertainment.

Thank you.

So it's not a television show per se, it sounds like and I'm glad it will be entertaining.

But some of the other questions didn't get answered yet and I have a couple more...

Who is sponsoring it?
What does it promote?
Who is narrating?
Is it politically motivated?

and

Who profits from this DVD?
Who is providing the interviews?

Vicki

And, may I ask:

Is this a "Spec" project, of fully funded? If yes, by who?

Have you signed the distribution agreements with the named outlets?

Or their suppliers? Or mainline distribution channel?

Who is doing any scripting/screenplay writeup, and is it avaiable?

Any agendas we may want to hear about? Pro? Con? Enviro?

Awaiting your response..

yeah answer those 300 questions.

Oh now, that's not anywhere near 300 questions.

What they lack in quantity they make up for in quality.

The reason for all the questions is this community has been burned by "then and now" feature films before.

And, well, this is a very poltically and marketing-savvy group.

Nothing wrong with asking the questions and hey, it could mean a boatload of drivers for your DVD.

Vicki

Sponsors are yet to be determined.
It is privately funded.
Distrbution is in place.
I am scripting it. and doing the interviews.
The main agenda is to show the "stoke" on the Dunes. And what it is that makes you come back.
It is 100% pro Sand Dunes.


Through interviews and ride-alongs with veteran “duners,” this video will
take you into the heart of the dunes. It will show you scenes in the middle of
the desert that a fast growing subculture calls paradise. You will hear riders
talking about respect for the dunes and you learn how to read the dunes. We
will show some excellent dune riding footage and show the “stoke” that makes
everyone come back.

why the DVD thing? do we really need more publicity on Glamis? why the hell put it out in target and walmart? means more idiots who have ZERO driving experience can go down and finance everything they need (including a rail that goes 100+) to go to Glamis and kill someone. growing up it didnt get any better than going to Glamis, now days i dont even want my 8 year old nephew to ride out there on a saturday for fear of being run the eff* over by these dumb sh|ts that dont know what the hell they are doing. So keep that dumb ass video out of stores, its just gonna get more people killed.

There's the cynicism I was just about to warn you of.

I'm sure you are certain it's going to be an excellent video with great footage and the duning community will come away smelling better than ever before.

But the questions posed to you come from too many years of broken promises and uncertain projects and there is a cynicism in our community that may be voiced to you very quickly... has, in fact, already.

I will say this... on Saturday DUNERS had 24 of the best drivers and buggies come out to help with an event our organization staged so I know there are "givers" in this community.

But probably not without direct answers to those questions. Experience has made us all skeptics.

Vicki

As much as I want the dunes to stay less crowded it is impossible to keep it on the "down low". The word is out and it is like telling people don't tell people LA has great weather and such. People are going to go and it will grow whether youl like it or not. Just a fact. I don't really like the facts eaither, but true. As long as the movie is tasteful and Pro dune I'll be in it. See you there Sat.

I am pretty sure I answered all of your questions. Thank you for the warning. I know there will be haters but that is ok. There is always two sides to every story. And I will make sure we make note of both sides.

So it sounds like a Dana Brow style film, " Dust to glory" " Step into liquid"
and "Riding giants" thoes are a GOOD style movie and project only the good
in any sport that is highlighted, anything like that will be welcome in my home

you know, like the newspaper articles where we get a one sentence blurb and cbd gets the whole article.

how will you note both sides.....both sides of what? narration is very subjective....Does Michael Moore ring a bell

I might have to swing on up there and see who shows, I at least want to check it out.

Do you have a web site or anything with any other projects you've done?

Privately funded............hmmmm.

Oh, I wouldn't call anyone "haters" just "cautious."

I personally, and DUNERS as an organization, have always believed that a positive expose on the dunes would be good... maybe even counteract all the negative publicity. The "downfall" (if you could call it that) would be that more people would be attracted to Glamis.

If that's what this turns out to be, you'll have an unbelievable first sale day.

But I'm getting a feeling there's more to this... maybe my woman's intuition is just working overtime?

A couple questions not answered yet...

Is this piece politically motivated?
Who profits from this DVD?
Who is providing the interviews? (you are doing the interviewing of _____?)

And a new one for the drivers who are considering helping...

Will there be any assurance that the editing won't change the "feel" or intent of the taped riding? Again this is from a previous burn to our community, so please try to understand. We'd like to avoid a taped dune run that is spliced to look, or uses a voice over that states, something illegal or irresponsible took place.

Thanks for your patience. The GlamisDunes community consists of more than just those who post and/or read here, so you could end up with an abundance of drivers for your taping.

Vicki

The piece is not politically motivated. It is just a documentary that will capture the essence of the dunes. The camping, riding, drags, BBQin...The scenery, the comparison to a beautiful ski resort with endless fields of powder that you get to up hill just as fast as down. The feeling you get hauling a** around a big bowl and transitioning to the next. The pure joy that makes you come back time and time again.

Who profits from the DVD? If we break even on it then it is a success. If we lose money on it it is still a success, documenting something that I am passionate about is something that I will always be able to show to my kids. If you love your job...you will never have to work again. If we make money then I guess the profit will go towards the next one.

I will be asking the questions during the interviews. these questions will be directed towards you, me, your neighbor, your friends the duner that can't wait to go for their next ride. We just want to get many different perspectives about the dunes from many different duners.

About the only thing that will change the "feel" of the ride in the edit is the narration stating how much sand you eat. While most people are eating their breakfast the duner is taking a sand shower and practically gargling sand for breakfast...and loving every minute of it.

I understand your concerns and respect that this community of people don't want the integrity of the dunes to be jeopardized.

Sorry for the long reply but just wanted to make sure I answered your questions…

I'm in.....

at least he sounds alot more sincere than that other guy.

We'll cruise down south to check it out...

Hopefully I'll wake up in time to make 10am, it is vacation after all.

Bring your crew to Glamis where the big bowls are... Better video potential.

JMHO,

Zilla

Hey Zilla, you north or south this weekend?

gonna be a large crew with us down south.

We will be shooting at Glamis Sat afternoon and Sunday Morning...I would love get an interview of you Zilla and what your doing for your buddy in Irac ( I think that was you??)...Let me know what day is good for you?

How will you go about covering this event, meaning,

What kind of cameras will you use...

whats the size of your crew...

also, what are your credentials??

I just got a solo kitchen pass for Glamis this weekend... Diane can't go but she gave me her leave. The Mullet crew will be in full force so I'm gonna hang with thoese guys this trip... next weekend at 13.5

Zilla

Oh I'm not much of a spokesperson... Just a Redneck from the hills of Tennessee but I'll talk to you if you want me to. I'll be camped deep into wash 3

Zilla

LOL think your interviewing Jeff Foxworthy for a dune video. He would be a good spokesperson, and damn funny at that.

I can remember a time when I planned a ride to start at the gordons drags, it did not work out so well, to much of this

Call my agent/stunt double N2DEEP for bookings

Do you allready have a permit? website we can check out?...

10 AM is a little early, specially when your camped with Brokebrotha, not sure if I'll be able to get over there in time.

For those of us who will be at Glamis...when, where and what time if interested? There will be a lot of us at Glamis and 10am is too early for that ride See you when you head North to the promise land.

CRForever03, we will meet up with you on Friday. We were planning a ride to Glamis via Sand Highway. Might be a good place to get footage of how people can get from Gordon's to Glamis. It's a pretty good ride and takes about 30 minutes (depending on your speed).

From what I have heard this sounds like a good thing and hopefully will provide entertainment to most as well as a good representation of what the dunes are all about.

Are you planning to get most of your footage over the weekend or are you planning multiple visits to get more?

-Brian

Maybe we will see ya out there good luck

What time are you going to be heading over to Glamis?

I'm curious about this too... and a little surprised that one would be given considering that resources are already stretched for that weekend.

Vicki

bringing the blender for sure, going to be a great weekend

Sorry to be Mr. Negative, but Glamis already has a SERIOUS overcrowding problem, and more publicity to the non-duning public will only make it more congested. Yeah, it's cool to see this stuff on film, but my vote is for NO MORE DUNE PUBLICITY. (Unless you eventually want to get your camping permits from Ticketron on a limited basis like Pismo).

I still don't see the answer to a hugely burning question about this...

Are any enviro's involved in this in ANY way and is there any way they might be able to use this planned film against us?

I'd also be concerned that there would be none of the "girls gone wild/party til you drop" planned as that's crap only shows 1% of glamis, and misses out on the other good 99% of it.

I think (personal opinion) that a lot more info needs to be put out about this before the community should embrace this idea. I honestly applaud and support something that shows duning as it is, not some hyped up propaganda for either the enviros, or soft-porn distributors.

And I'd absolutely make sure you had your "red tape" taken care of with the BLM. I'm sure there are going to be more of them out there this weekend, and they tend to be less tolerant on the big weekends.

If your planning on filming Zilla make sure you have a Helicopter it's the only way your going to be able to keep up.

Im glad someone finally asked...
Looking at that disaster that hunter made, and that absolute peice of doggy dung quicksand 4...I hope this one uses some good equipment...and crew...

There is a lot more to just pointing a camera and making a video...or at least making a good one...

Is this a pro crew with pro equipment? Or just guys with cameras?

I agree 110%!!!!! Do we really need more publicity good or bad. Glamis has already been overpopulated with people who just heard about this new sport called "OFF-ROADING". Do we really need more people running to the dealership and buying a new quad and toyhauler only to find out that they never even been to Glamis. I rarely if at all let my 6 year old out of the boundries of our camp. (he has been riding since the age of three). He has more duning experience than most of the newbies crowding are already small riding area. I think the desert should be available to everyone, but please DO NOT allow this video to be sold to the masses in the mainstream stores. JUST TOO MANY DANGERUOS MORONS ALREADY SHOWING UP AND CAUSING TROUBLE!!!

I think stats would show that the dunes ARE the safest place to be...I think most accidents and fatalities happen in camping areas and along sand hwy...

Making and selling a dune video is not going to make hoards of new duners... That's pure nonsense. The people that will be buying this type of video are for the most part the people that already go to the dunes and just wanna see more of what they already do. If you want to be pissed about over crowding, get pissed at the known enemy <(the greenies) and fight back. The next thing you hear is people wanting to stop the "Sand Sport Super Show" because to many people will be able to see and buy buggies.

If we lose the dunes, it will not be because somebody made a dune video and sold it to the general public. It will be because we didn't fight for what we now have and fight to get back what we already lost.

JMHO,

Zilla

I agree to this 100%

So I showed up at 10 am at gordons...I ended up parking next to the guy who owned the production company that was filming that day...He seemed to be a pretty nice guy and explained to me that ESPN2 and someother station? were interested in a film such as this...One thing that was odd is that he had no idea what glamis dunes.com was, and explained that the person on here CRforever, must have been one of his employees or something. There was a guy on a CR that came and talked to me though, maybe that was him?

Anyway, so we went up into the dunes and they set up a few cameras and filmed about 5 buggies going around a few dunes. Curious to see if it gets finished and shows up on TV someday...