has any one heard of or have used hydrodynamic A-arms?
need some feedback.
steve.
Full Version: Hydrodynamics A-arms
Never heard of them and there certainly isnt anything special about them, but they look strong and well put so why not?
Hydro = fluid?
Where is the pump?
Where is the pump?
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Hydro = fluid?
Where is the pump?
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Where is the pump?
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i think your supposed to pump the fluid by cranking this one by hand
.no seriously has any one ever tried this stuff out?
Sorry never heard of them.
How much for the set?
How much for the set?
I believe those are from the makers of the I-Shock.
They are relatively new to the ATV scene. They started getting big when they came out with a decent shock for the rear of an XR50 / CRF50.
They are selling complete suspension kits for ATVs, shocks and a-arms.
I have not heard anything bad about them.
They are relatively new to the ATV scene. They started getting big when they came out with a decent shock for the rear of an XR50 / CRF50.
They are selling complete suspension kits for ATVs, shocks and a-arms.
I have not heard anything bad about them.
They've been out for a few months. They are the same folks as I-shock from what I have read. They seem really pricy though. I do like that they use the castle nuts too.
QUOTE(calmini @ Apr 11 2006, 10:19 PM)
im getting the set shown above for 575.00, is that a good deal in your opinions?
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Does that come with the brake lines and line clamps?
Yes I would say it is.
If that is standard travel then the price is OK (still decently priced). If it is long travel it is a great price. (you will need shocks to go with though)
For cheap arms that seem to have a decent reputation in the YFZ world, check out Wicked products on E-bay. Most people buying the standard travel seem to like them allot.
For cheap arms that seem to have a decent reputation in the YFZ world, check out Wicked products on E-bay. Most people buying the standard travel seem to like them allot.
hey TD, im getting the arms used from a guy in santa clarita, he says he paied 850 something dollers for them thats w/o tax.
he says he never installed them and they look very new.
yes im getting the brake lines and clamps w/ it. personally i think its a great deal, i was just wondering what others thought of it.
steve.
he says he never installed them and they look very new.
yes im getting the brake lines and clamps w/ it. personally i think its a great deal, i was just wondering what others thought of it.
steve.
thats a good deal for the arms and brake lines, however I have looked at the I-shock shocks, and was not impressed. Just for the simple fact that theyre only single rate springs, most of the brands that are on top are using triple rate springs, check TCS. PM Rivermobster and ask about a rebuild. What bike are these going on? 
QUOTE(OCBC @ Apr 12 2006, 08:01 AM)
If that is standard travel then the price is OK (still decently priced). If it is long travel it is a great price. (you will need shocks to go with though)
For cheap arms that seem to have a decent reputation in the YFZ world, check out Wicked products on E-bay. Most people buying the standard travel seem to like them allot.
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For cheap arms that seem to have a decent reputation in the YFZ world, check out Wicked products on E-bay. Most people buying the standard travel seem to like them allot.
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I bought some Wicked a arms, Great product!!!
low cost GREAT product!!!
there going on a 400ex, i really dont want to spend money on shocks because the 400ex isnt wort all that money. and plus im a small rider, i waigh 135-45 pounds i dont think the 400ex whould bottom out. if it does then i will have to buy some shocks. if i were to get shocks i would probably get i-shocks.
whats the diff? tripple rate and single rate?
whats the diff? tripple rate and single rate?
QUOTE(KenZ400 @ Apr 12 2006, 07:20 PM)
thats a good deal for the arms and brake lines, however I have looked at the I-shock shocks, and was not impressed. Just for the simple fact that theyre only single rate springs, most of the brands that are on top are using triple rate springs, check TCS. PM Rivermobster and ask about a rebuild. What bike are these going on?
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For the price you are better off getting L/T arms, last i checked the arms and shocks are around 1k-1200, i got alba arms for my quad for $400 and use the stock shocks... IMO same thing except you are buying the ISHOCK name...
Heres a 400 ex... You can get some "nice" arms custom made for you in custom lengths ex...2" 3" or 1" foward for $575. http://www.jdperformanceatv.com/
Were buying all l/t setup for my bros 450r, these guys seem to know thier s*** and they are in temecula AND they offer 1 year warranty...does i shock offer that???
BTW did i mention i wouldnt buy them if i were you?
Heres a 400 ex... You can get some "nice" arms custom made for you in custom lengths ex...2" 3" or 1" foward for $575. http://www.jdperformanceatv.com/
Were buying all l/t setup for my bros 450r, these guys seem to know thier s*** and they are in temecula AND they offer 1 year warranty...does i shock offer that???
BTW did i mention i wouldnt buy them if i were you?
QUOTE(calmini @ Apr 12 2006, 08:00 PM)
there going on a 400ex, i really dont want to spend money on shocks because the 400ex isnt wort all that money. and plus im a small rider, i waigh 135-45 pounds i dont think the 400ex whould bottom out. if it does then i will have to buy some shocks. if i were to get shocks i would probably get i-shocks.
whats the diff? tripple rate and single rate?
whats the diff? tripple rate and single rate?
If you think spending money on shocks is "wasting" why are you even putting money into your 400? Shocks are not about bottoming out...or if your a light rider...It seems you need to do some research on suspension design, valving, and spring rates... and what your suspension actually does...
i-shock arms have a life time warrenty. JD does make some good arms, but those alba arms are not full chromoly, and do not compair to the i-shock or JD .....
FUELATV
FUELATV
QUOTE(FUELATV @ Apr 13 2006, 07:32 AM)
i-shock arms have a life time warrenty. JD does make some good arms, but those alba arms are not full chromoly, and do not compair to the i-shock or JD .....
FUELATV
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now what do you have to say to that BBR?
QUOTE(calmini @ Apr 12 2006, 11:39 AM)
hey TD, im getting the arms used from a guy in santa clarita, he says he paied 850 something dollers for them thats w/o tax.
he says he never installed them and they look very new.
yes im getting the brake lines and clamps w/ it. personally i think its a great deal, i was just wondering what others thought of it.
steve.
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he says he never installed them and they look very new.
yes im getting the brake lines and clamps w/ it. personally i think its a great deal, i was just wondering what others thought of it.
steve.
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I looked up the website for I-Shock and yea they sell the package for $850, so buying for $575 would be a good deal.
Personally I wouldn't get them, I would get the JD Performance arms. That's what I have on my 450R and they are first rate.
If you are going with just a +2 you don't even need the new brake lines, the stock lines will still work.
JD Performance
They have a set of entry level racing arms for $495 and you get the guarantee of buying them from a reputable local dealer.
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QUOTE(calmini @ Apr 12 2006, 11:39 AM)
hey TD, im getting the arms used from a guy in santa clarita, he says he paied 850 something dollers for them thats w/o tax.
he says he never installed them and they look very new.
yes im getting the brake lines and clamps w/ it. personally i think its a great deal, i was just wondering what others thought of it.
steve.
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he says he never installed them and they look very new.
yes im getting the brake lines and clamps w/ it. personally i think its a great deal, i was just wondering what others thought of it.
steve.
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I looked up the website for I-Shock and yea they sell the package for $850, so buying for $575 would be a good deal.
Personally I wouldn't get them, I would get the JD Performance arms. That's what I have on my 450R and they are first rate.
If you are going with just a +2 you don't even need the new brake lines, the stock lines will still work.
JD Performance
They have a set of entry level racing arms for $495 and you get the guarantee of buying them from a reputable local dealer.
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only if i had known earlier i would have shopped around, but this deal kinda fell in my lap so i took it. i didnt really know that the stock brake line whoud have fit, so i took a chance and got this guys whole package.
QUOTE(calmini @ Apr 13 2006, 01:15 PM)
QUOTE(TD @ Apr 13 2006, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(calmini @ Apr 12 2006, 11:39 AM)
hey TD, im getting the arms used from a guy in santa clarita, he says he paied 850 something dollers for them thats w/o tax.
he says he never installed them and they look very new.
yes im getting the brake lines and clamps w/ it. personally i think its a great deal, i was just wondering what others thought of it.
steve.
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he says he never installed them and they look very new.
yes im getting the brake lines and clamps w/ it. personally i think its a great deal, i was just wondering what others thought of it.
steve.
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I looked up the website for I-Shock and yea they sell the package for $850, so buying for $575 would be a good deal.
Personally I wouldn't get them, I would get the JD Performance arms. That's what I have on my 450R and they are first rate.
If you are going with just a +2 you don't even need the new brake lines, the stock lines will still work.
JD Performance
They have a set of entry level racing arms for $495 and you get the guarantee of buying them from a reputable local dealer.
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only if i had known earlier i would have shopped around, but this deal kinda fell in my lap so i took it. i didnt really know that the stock brake line whoud have fit, so i took a chance and got this guys whole package.
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I'm sure it will be fine, post some pics once you get it together.
The JD arms for $495.00 DO NOT have gussets. The $575.00 ones from JD do. The i-shock arms do have gussets. So sounds to me like you got free brake lines and brake line clamps?
QUOTE(FUELATV @ Apr 13 2006, 02:02 PM)
The JD arms for $495.00 DO NOT have gussets. The $575.00 ones from JD do. The i-shock arms do have gussets. So sounds to me like you got free brake lines and brake line clamps?
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your right, the guy said he's throwing them in fotr free. im expecting to install it today, hopefully ill have pics by tonight!
steve.
QUOTE(calmini @ Apr 13 2006, 09:16 AM)
QUOTE(FUELATV @ Apr 13 2006, 07:32 AM)
i-shock arms have a life time warrenty. JD does make some good arms, but those alba arms are not full chromoly, and do not compair to the i-shock or JD .....
FUELATV
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now what do you have to say to that BBR?
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For $400 the alba arms are awesome, my bro just raced the D38,D37 nationals on my quad as a first timer, hit all kinds of rocks...and not one dent or failure, i actually dnfd on my bike and he finished...yeah those alba arms are piles...
Heres some good reading http://www.trx450r.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20075
Im sure the i shock arms will be perfect for your application.
QUOTE(calmini @ Apr 13 2006, 12:15 PM)
only if i had known earlier i would have shopped around, but this deal kinda fell in my lap so i took it. i didnt really know that the stock brake line whoud have fit, so i took a chance and got this guys whole package.
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Maybe you should have listened...maybe not....sounds like not such a good deal anymore eh...
BTW fuelatv are you associated with hydrodynamics at all??? Are they a sponsor of yours or something?
QUOTE(FUELATV @ Apr 13 2006, 06:32 AM)
i-shock arms have a life time warrenty. JD does make some good arms, but those alba arms are not full chromoly, and do not compair to the i-shock or JD .....
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Asked this question because there have been NUMEROUS ishock failures on 50s and ishock basically told the customer to eff*k off because they didnt service them through ishock every 6 months...
Im sure there is some kind of loophole, like you didnt buy them off an authorized dealer, and they wont cover etc...
Also are you comparing JD to ISHOCK??? If so thats rediculous, I would much rather spend money at a place that has been building quad suspensions for 15 years over Ishock who has been doing it for what 6 months???
BTW i own an ishock for my 50 and am very happy with it, hopefully it doesnt break anytime soon though...
PS albas work just fine even with what my fatass puts them through... lol
Lets hear from you why JD arms are better? Wait you wont be able to tell me because the facts are that they are not.....So dont bother.
1. The JD standard travel a-arms are in NO WAY better then the i-shock standard travel a-arms. For you to say they are better really shows you lack of knowledge. I will not bash JD as they are VERY good a-arms. Given this guy payed the same money as the JD arms and got extended brake lines and brake line clamps i feel he did get a smokin deal.
2. No i am not sponsored by i-shock, and i am not associated with them.
3. I sell i-shock, as well as laeger, lonestar, and houser, elka, and TCS suspension
4. the person that designs the i-shock atv suspension has been designing ATV suspension for 15 plus years.
5. I am sure i-shock will stand by the warrenty on his arms as long as he has shocks valved for the +2 arms.
1. The JD standard travel a-arms are in NO WAY better then the i-shock standard travel a-arms. For you to say they are better really shows you lack of knowledge. I will not bash JD as they are VERY good a-arms. Given this guy payed the same money as the JD arms and got extended brake lines and brake line clamps i feel he did get a smokin deal.
2. No i am not sponsored by i-shock, and i am not associated with them.
3. I sell i-shock, as well as laeger, lonestar, and houser, elka, and TCS suspension
4. the person that designs the i-shock atv suspension has been designing ATV suspension for 15 plus years.
5. I am sure i-shock will stand by the warrenty on his arms as long as he has shocks valved for the +2 arms.
QUOTE(FUELATV @ Apr 14 2006, 09:13 AM)
Lets hear from you why JD arms are better? Wait you wont be able to tell me because the facts are that they are not.....So dont bother.
1. The JD standard travel a-arms are in NO WAY better then the i-shock standard travel a-arms. For you to say they are better really shows you lack of knowledge. I will not bash JD as they are VERY good a-arms. Given this guy payed the same money as the JD arms and got extended brake lines and brake line clamps i feel he did get a smokin deal.
He bought used supposed never installed arms, when you can buy NEW, CUSTOM, arms with all mounting hardware for $575, ON MOST +2 setups you can actually use the stock brakelines so it looks like he got duped
2. No i am not sponsored by i-shock, and i am not associated with them.
You sell them thats all i needed, your views are obviously biased , and you cant sell JD because they dont go through dealers
3. I sell i-shock, as well as laeger, lonestar, and houser, elka, and TCS suspension
See above
4. the person that designs the i-shock atv suspension has been designing ATV suspension for 15 plus years.
Really and what is his name? Never heard that before, but like you said...what are the facts?
5. I am sure i-shock will stand by the warrenty on his arms as long as he has shocks valved for the +2 arms.
Last i checked "most" manufacturers in general require a purchase through an authorized dealer to get warrantee issues taken care of, and knowing I SHOCK reputation of eff*ing thier customer in the customer service area, all i can say is good luck... and i own an ishock product... lol
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1. The JD standard travel a-arms are in NO WAY better then the i-shock standard travel a-arms. For you to say they are better really shows you lack of knowledge. I will not bash JD as they are VERY good a-arms. Given this guy payed the same money as the JD arms and got extended brake lines and brake line clamps i feel he did get a smokin deal.
He bought used supposed never installed arms, when you can buy NEW, CUSTOM, arms with all mounting hardware for $575, ON MOST +2 setups you can actually use the stock brakelines so it looks like he got duped
2. No i am not sponsored by i-shock, and i am not associated with them.
You sell them thats all i needed, your views are obviously biased , and you cant sell JD because they dont go through dealers
3. I sell i-shock, as well as laeger, lonestar, and houser, elka, and TCS suspension
See above
4. the person that designs the i-shock atv suspension has been designing ATV suspension for 15 plus years.
Really and what is his name? Never heard that before, but like you said...what are the facts?
5. I am sure i-shock will stand by the warrenty on his arms as long as he has shocks valved for the +2 arms.
Last i checked "most" manufacturers in general require a purchase through an authorized dealer to get warrantee issues taken care of, and knowing I SHOCK reputation of eff*ing thier customer in the customer service area, all i can say is good luck... and i own an ishock product... lol
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LOL thats what i thought.
Whatever, buy your overpriced namebrand arms...
BTW i was NEVER talking about JD $495 arms, i was talking about the $575 arms and the L/Ts.
These things are piles huh? Why is it because JD DOES NOT SELL THROUGH DEALERS LIKE YOU. SO YOU BASH? BTW these are the $575 arms...looks like a stock brakeline in the pic as well...
Never said JD are junk ..... not sure where you got that. Jd makes good a-arms. Can you not read? New custom a-arms? what are you talking about? Sure run stock brake lines cool, but why when steel braided work better? You my friend are the one who says the JD a-arms are better so step up tell us all what make the $575.00 JD a-arms better then the $650.00 i-shock a-arms besides the price?
QUOTE(FUELATV @ Apr 14 2006, 10:13 AM)
Never said JD are junk.....not sure where you got that. Jd makes good a-arms. Can you not read? New custom a-arms? what are you talking about? Sure run stock brake lines cool, but why when steel braided work better?......Better yet awnser this one question what make the $575.00 JD a-arms better then the $650.00 i-shock a-arms ?
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!) Cheaper 575 vs. 650
2) Custom made (IE 1", 2", 3" or 1" foward, whatever you like) vs. What ishock chooses for you
3) 15 year experience, you still never gave the name of the guy whos been building arms for 15 years over at ishock.
4) Local, in temecula, have a problem, go to temecula (ishock is in el cajon, still local, but still corporate)
5) Sold directly to the customer to keep prices low, no middle man, no bulls***.
5 perfectly good reasons... or no?
Either way, you probably won't notice what's better.
Proper setup will make much more difference than design differences between the two.
If it was up to me, I would buy the JD, just because I have met the people that make them a few times, and I would have no problems giving them money. Not because of any deficiencies in the IShock.
BTW the guy that designed the arms for IShock is one of the guys from Timmy Boy. Not sure, but I don't think it's Timmy himself. He does know his stuff, and does good work.
Proper setup will make much more difference than design differences between the two.
If it was up to me, I would buy the JD, just because I have met the people that make them a few times, and I would have no problems giving them money. Not because of any deficiencies in the IShock.
BTW the guy that designed the arms for IShock is one of the guys from Timmy Boy. Not sure, but I don't think it's Timmy himself. He does know his stuff, and does good work.
QUOTE(monkeyboy @ Apr 14 2006, 10:21 AM)
Either way, you probably won't notice what's better.
Proper setup will make much more difference than design differences between the two.
If it was up to me, I would buy the JD, just because I have met the people that make them a few times, and I would have no problems giving them money. Not because of any deficiencies in the IShock.
BTW the guy that designed the arms for IShock is one of the guys from Timmy Boy. Not sure, but I don't think it's Timmy himself. He does know his stuff, and does good work.
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Proper setup will make much more difference than design differences between the two.
If it was up to me, I would buy the JD, just because I have met the people that make them a few times, and I would have no problems giving them money. Not because of any deficiencies in the IShock.
BTW the guy that designed the arms for IShock is one of the guys from Timmy Boy. Not sure, but I don't think it's Timmy himself. He does know his stuff, and does good work.
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Thanks for the info... I too believe he wont notice the difference, but if he ends up getting shocks is he limited to ishock single rates or can he use elkas etc..?
Still 4 perfectly good reasons to buy JD over ishock.
Why do you keep saying i am bashing JD?
I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.....I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.....I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.
The reason you gave are not reasons that are related to what we are talking about. He payed $575.00 and got brake lines and billet clamps = BETTER DEAL. Bottom line you like JD so do i. so cool thanks for you opinion.
I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.....I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.....I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.I THINK JD MAKES GREAT A-ARMS.
The reason you gave are not reasons that are related to what we are talking about. He payed $575.00 and got brake lines and billet clamps = BETTER DEAL. Bottom line you like JD so do i. so cool thanks for you opinion.
5 good reasons ...... what are you smokin and can i have some?
!) Cheaper 575 vs. 650
MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BE PAYING RETAIL......I DONT DO YOU?
2) Custom made (IE 1", 2", 3" or 1" foward, whatever you like) vs. What ishock chooses for you.
THIS IS ONLY BETTER IF IT WORKS IN YOUR APPLICATION. MOST PEOPLE WANT +2, AND KNOW THAT +1 FORWARD DOES NOT WORK GOOD IN MOST APPLICATIONS.....ESPECIALLY THE TRX450R. BUT HEY YOU KNOW BEST RIGHT?
3) 15 year experience, you still never gave the name of the guy whos been building arms for 15 years over at ishock.
PROVEN DESIGNER ......... KNOW YOUR FACTS
4) Local, in temecula, have a problem, go to temecula (ishock is in el cajon, still local, but still corporate)
LOCAL FOR YOU, BUT NOT THE REST OF THE WORLD
5) Sold directly to the customer to keep prices low, no middle man, no bulls***.
I-SHOCK HAS VERY GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. BUY FROM THEM DIRECT OR YOUR LOCAL SHOP. CHOICE IS YOURS.
5 perfectly good reasons... or no?
So no not really 5 reasons, but if you think so then cool. Nice try though.
!) Cheaper 575 vs. 650
MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BE PAYING RETAIL......I DONT DO YOU?
2) Custom made (IE 1", 2", 3" or 1" foward, whatever you like) vs. What ishock chooses for you.
THIS IS ONLY BETTER IF IT WORKS IN YOUR APPLICATION. MOST PEOPLE WANT +2, AND KNOW THAT +1 FORWARD DOES NOT WORK GOOD IN MOST APPLICATIONS.....ESPECIALLY THE TRX450R. BUT HEY YOU KNOW BEST RIGHT?
3) 15 year experience, you still never gave the name of the guy whos been building arms for 15 years over at ishock.
PROVEN DESIGNER ......... KNOW YOUR FACTS
4) Local, in temecula, have a problem, go to temecula (ishock is in el cajon, still local, but still corporate)
LOCAL FOR YOU, BUT NOT THE REST OF THE WORLD
5) Sold directly to the customer to keep prices low, no middle man, no bulls***.
I-SHOCK HAS VERY GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. BUY FROM THEM DIRECT OR YOUR LOCAL SHOP. CHOICE IS YOURS.
5 perfectly good reasons... or no?
So no not really 5 reasons, but if you think so then cool. Nice try though.
QUOTE(FUELATV @ Apr 14 2006, 10:39 AM)
5 good reasons ...... what are you smokin and can i have some?
!) Cheaper 575 vs. 650
MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BE PAYING RETAIL......I DONT DO YOU?
Yes most people pay retail along with your customers.
2) Custom made (IE 1", 2", 3" or 1" foward, whatever you like) vs. What ishock chooses for you.
THIS IS ONLY BETTER IF IT WORKS IN YOUR APPLICATION. MOST PEOPLE WANT +2, AND KNOW THAT +1 FORWARD DOES NOT WORK GOOD IN MOST APPLICATIONS.....ESPECIALLY THE TRX450R. BUT HEY YOU KNOW BEST RIGHT?
OPTIONS, do you go to mickie d's and say i want what you will give me, no, you say i want a number 6 biggie sized with a Dr Pepper
3) 15 year experience, you still never gave the name of the guy whos been building arms for 15 years over at ishock.
PROVEN DESIGNER ......... KNOW YOUR FACTS
DUDE dont BS you didnt even know that til monkeyboy enlightened US BOTH, or else you would have said something.
4) Local, in temecula, have a problem, go to temecula (ishock is in el cajon, still local, but still corporate)
LOCAL FOR YOU, BUT NOT THE REST OF THE WORLD
I didnt know they ride trx 450s in greenland... J/K dude. Wel its local for me and CALIMINI, since he is in northridge, i believe thats closer than el cajon.
5) Sold directly to the customer to keep prices low, no middle man, no bulls***.
I-SHOCK HAS VERY GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. BUY FROM THEM DIRECT OR YOUR LOCAL SHOP. CHOICE IS YOURS.
No they dont, go to 50riders.com and do a search for ishock, most of them have banned ishock bc their PR is so terrible, they started out (or are most known for) 50 shocks.
5 perfectly good reasons... or no?
So no not really 5 reasons, but if you think so then cool. Nice try though.
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MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BE PAYING RETAIL......I DONT DO YOU?
Yes most people pay retail along with your customers.
2) Custom made (IE 1", 2", 3" or 1" foward, whatever you like) vs. What ishock chooses for you.
THIS IS ONLY BETTER IF IT WORKS IN YOUR APPLICATION. MOST PEOPLE WANT +2, AND KNOW THAT +1 FORWARD DOES NOT WORK GOOD IN MOST APPLICATIONS.....ESPECIALLY THE TRX450R. BUT HEY YOU KNOW BEST RIGHT?
OPTIONS, do you go to mickie d's and say i want what you will give me, no, you say i want a number 6 biggie sized with a Dr Pepper
3) 15 year experience, you still never gave the name of the guy whos been building arms for 15 years over at ishock.
PROVEN DESIGNER ......... KNOW YOUR FACTS
DUDE dont BS you didnt even know that til monkeyboy enlightened US BOTH, or else you would have said something.
4) Local, in temecula, have a problem, go to temecula (ishock is in el cajon, still local, but still corporate)
LOCAL FOR YOU, BUT NOT THE REST OF THE WORLD
I didnt know they ride trx 450s in greenland... J/K dude. Wel its local for me and CALIMINI, since he is in northridge, i believe thats closer than el cajon.
5) Sold directly to the customer to keep prices low, no middle man, no bulls***.
I-SHOCK HAS VERY GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. BUY FROM THEM DIRECT OR YOUR LOCAL SHOP. CHOICE IS YOURS.
No they dont, go to 50riders.com and do a search for ishock, most of them have banned ishock bc their PR is so terrible, they started out (or are most known for) 50 shocks.
5 perfectly good reasons... or no?
So no not really 5 reasons, but if you think so then cool. Nice try though.
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This is rediculous yes most people do pay retail, hell this guy basically paid retail for second hand, maybe used parts... I would think you dont pay retail because you own a shop and most likely pay wholesale...
WAJ
***Please remove panties from bunch***
WOW YOU ARE REALLY SLOW......the kit he bought with brake lines and billet clamps retails for $850.00. I know you are really fast by the picture you posted and dont need steel braided brake lines and billet clamps, but they do look trick and work better. I also worked at a few motorcylce shops and 95% of the customers that walk throught the door either want a deal ...... get a deal somewhere else ..... or have a freind that gets a deal. So maybe it was a little bold, sorry with the internet most people shop the price.
are you guys really arguing about this?
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are you guys really arguing about this?
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I guess... kinda dumb huh? LOL
Later dude...
NOT ANY MORE ........ THANKS GOAT.
come here you two 
I LIKE COORS LIGHT MORE THAN BUD.
TASTES GREAT!!!
LESS FILLING!!
LESS FILLING!!
QUOTE(Dune Goat @ Apr 14 2006, 01:27 PM)
TASTES GREAT!!!
LESS FILLING!!
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LESS FILLING!!
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I LIKE COORS LIGHT MORE THAN BUD.
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Rocky Mountain water!
Coors light ruins bud...
QUOTE(FUELATV @ Apr 14 2006, 10:49 AM)
WOW YOU ARE REALLY SLOW......the kit he bought with brake lines and billet clamps retails for $850.00. I know you are really fast by the picture you posted and dont need steel braided brake lines and billet clamps, but they do look trick and work better. I also worked at a few motorcylce shops and 95% of the customers that walk throught the door either want a deal ...... get a deal somewhere else ..... or have a freind that gets a deal. So maybe it was a little bold, sorry with the internet most people shop the price.
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Im glad this ended, the personal attacks were beginning...
LOL
and think, I got fired from being a mod
hey guys im sorry for making you two argue over this.. not really. any way, i agree with both of you. you have good points but its not worth arguing over. thanks goat.
any way the arms were brand new, the box was never even oppened. and i did need new brake lines cause the oem ones were stretching it a little too much. im glad i got the braded hoses.
it looks great, i drove it in the alley behind my house (not a really good test but i couldnt wait) and the suspention in the front wasnt too soft, it felt good.
here are some pix's, sorry its at night though.
steve.
any way the arms were brand new, the box was never even oppened. and i did need new brake lines cause the oem ones were stretching it a little too much. im glad i got the braded hoses.
it looks great, i drove it in the alley behind my house (not a really good test but i couldnt wait) and the suspention in the front wasnt too soft, it felt good.
here are some pix's, sorry its at night though.
steve.
Typically you dont have to worry about the stock shocks being too soft, it's the opposite. If youve never ridden a bike w/ aftermarket susp, you should. Made a real difference. Im a heavy rider and when my susp came back from TCS, my bike sat approx 3" lower, and rides like a dream. Aarms look good though.
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