My buddy is checking out these cars. They are in Moreno Valley. He's looking to spend about 30k and they seem to have a good car. Does anyone have any feedback on this company??

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Deano
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Is he looking at this one?

http://www.race-dezert.com/cgi-bin/trader/...ond&id=2546

I don't understand why some builders put the bracing in the middle of the windshield if they aren't going to continue it to the floor, kinda defets the purpose if it stops in the middle of a bar......

Yes thats the car??? Any feedback??? Yoshi you are right!

Deano
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To keep large items from entering the passenger area if an accident was to occur.

I understand the preventing of things entering the vehicle. I wonder if it has potential of doing harm as well though. If you mount a lightbar on your roof so the back brace is in the middle of the tube going back, in a flip there is a new load which is directly on the roof bar in the middle. Once that spot starts to bend it can get really bad, so adding the lightbar can make your rail unsafe even though you are adding tubing. I wonder if there are any side effects to that brace being put on the middle of the bar like it is, in an accident the tube would be fine, but now if the roof caves at the front it will bend that lower tube which may pull the base of the windshield bars in which may cause the roof to collapse easier without a firm base for the windshield bars to stay planted, does that make any sense? Seems pretty simply to me to just run another brace to the floor...

I understand what you’re saying, your talking about two bars which are not point constructed with the ret of the chasse. However, in order for the two bars in the front window to cause stress to the lower window bar you would need to flip the car onto some extremely large object protruding from the ground on that exact location (not likely). Other wise considering the absolute extreme situation of a hundred mile an hour roll over, the other six roof pillar bars and rear X-bracing would need to yield far enough to let the center bars bend the lower bar. In this situation, the front bars become negligible to the force required to yield the other bars. Since a compression vector force is nearly four times that of a yielding vector force, you can rule out the possibility all together. You comparing two objects within a system who’s stress and yield points aren’t even within 5 figures of each other.

This Car? I'm trying to get a picture on here.

Not a bad price. Would like to see the motor. Must be 20.t jdm?
Looks like a pretty good deal.

MIke

yeah, what he said . Good post. Wish I understood that stuff.

Ya, it's a 2.0 Subaru.

He used alot of big words so he must be right, lol. j/k I understand everything your saying and looking at the design I don't think "that is dangerous" I understand it would be a freak and high speed accident for that spot on the rail to do more damage which isn't to say it even would. I was just asking if it could be a bad thing, didn't asume it was. I also ass-umed that the bracing was to keep the roof from collapsing, but if the intention is to keep stuff out, it makes sense. The extra brace isn't even run that much except race vehicles mainly so wether it's there or not isn't as big of a deal since the rest of the roof is braced so well....

Nice looking car s by the way, welcome to the forum...

Yosh, I think most builders put the v bar there just for looks and also so they can call it a dual sport car..............

Hey I appreciate your input. Thanks for the welcome. Glad to be here.

Oh yeah, welcome to the board. Nice car. This can be a real tough crowd here for a new guy, so be prepaired.

Yes they do, your right. But I would never call our car a dual sport car. I am sincere when I say I put the bars there to keep the driver and passenger safe. How many of us here have heard of a quad or dirt bike colide with other cars? I personally Know a guy who lost his wife in this same situation. This may be why I'm so adamant about it.

Dean I think Ryan will realy like this car and put it to the real test. I t is a very nice looking car and seems like a very good deal

what is this strange event you speak of...

Perhaps that strange event is being able to drive forward while in reverse...lol/jk

Just having fun Yosh

Well. The photos of this car look great...and the price even better. Ryan...looks like this is a good deal. Now get the deal done and lets get ready to dune! Shawn did you do the photoshoot yesterday with your car??

D-no
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btw, good looking car and welcome.

Thank you

Dominant-SC....

I love how we start talking about a builder and he signs up within like 30 min. to respond, lol. Just curious how you found out so quick about the topic? I found out cause I check my stats for my site every few days and someone had linked my site here last year. It took a day or so for me to catch it, how bout you?

Aww but you left out something, I was actually doing over 40 in reverse, top that....

He is my partner and design engineer. I thought it would be better for him to respond.

Im looking at this car and it really does look stout. How much does the car weigh??? Do you have any video of the car in action???

D-no
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Well Its nice to hear about all of this, either way, Chris sounded like he really knew his s***. I am buying the car either way, I love the looks, and how well thought out it is. I have landed on the front of a dune buggy and either way looks or for a real reason i dig the v bar. I will def. put it to the test and let everyone know how does

I dig the car and cant wait till I get it in my hands, if I have it by this weekend I will have it out in glamis and let everyone know how it does!

You beter believe it!!! cant wait to get it and take her out!

Ryan...why are you yelling! LOL

d-no
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hahah not yelling just some big oll font i guess i dunno. I am stoked tho[size=4]

Congrats on the new ride...........
Pusher..

Good luck if you get it looks like a sweet ride. Just got back Saturday from testing my car and it is hotter than hell. I think it's going to be hotter this weekend I think I'm done till October maybe late September.

I drove out there friday of last week, well out to phoenix then back from the 10 to the 78, kinda a crazy drive but it worked out well. My truck said it was only 94% I didnt think that was that bad, I was there at 1:10pm... How hot was it out there?

Sounds like an 091 tranny buster to me!

Even with the 2.0, you can generate a significant amount of power and torque.
Be careful when you load it up!

You know, as common of a question as that is, I really don't know. I've never took it anywhere to find out. It rides extremly light on it's feet. Maybe I'll stop on the way to glamis in Sep to find out.

I do have video of the car in action which you can check out on the site in just a few weeks when it's up and running. Big plans but we're in the middle of opening another location in Riverside.

Just burn the video to a disk and send it to Ryan my buddy who is buying your car. I'd like to post it. Or you can try to e-mail it to me...unleashedclothing@socal.rr.com




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D-no
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Very nice car for the money. What are the dimensions?

Same Question... Very nice car gotta love that Orange color!!!!!

Buddie

I'm not so hot with computers unless it's design software. I'll try that and also send Ryan away with a disk that will have some of our testing on it. Vid-pics and stuff. If he goes to glamis this weekend I'd like to head to join him too. Sounds like a good way to get a tan

120" wheel base
84" wide front
90" wide rear
14' long tip to tip
15' long with wing and cadge for V-8

What is their background? Ever built sandcars before?

This will just fit in my trailer!! so close, well i hope and if not then she is going in the back of my truck! Everything is coming along well on this end so I will contact you when I get the word chris

thanks big D and Gibby for everything!
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Background… Hmmmm? No, No buggy background. But I did stay in a Holiday INN last night. LOL!!!!!!

No really, I just don’t want to sound like public enemy #1. I’m a fourth year mechanical engineer student at Cal Poly Pomona with a minor in business. I’ve been a certified welder since high school. I grew up with the off road influence since day one through my father and his numerous shops. Mostly I was involved in helping with the design and weld of chase truck, prerunners and stuff.

My business partner Trent Chelbana grew up building and racing pro-stock race cars with his father Tom Chelbana. He runs his own repair shop and does a lot of high end street cars, Motor swaps and upgrades of the kind.

Three years ago we got together to build a sandcar business combining his experience with my computer design abilities. Mostly we built frames and suspension but few turn key cars. That is until California changed the laws to require us a bond and license to build. At that point we turned over to only producing turn key cars. That has worked out well. Now were expanding a bit. As for turn key cars, only a dozen or so.

Most importantly we have had a lot of fun in this industry. The people whom we deal with on a daily basis are a lot like a big family. I’ve loved Glamis since I first set eyes on it, not really planning on giving it up ever. I’m sure everyone will agree when I say it’s not a hobby, It’s definitely a LIFE STYLE…

I will get some vid when I drop off some cash tomorrow for the car, as for this weekend?!?! It looks like a no go, I am hoping to get it so we will see. I am going out to glamis with or with out the car saturday to deliver some 110s so I thought it would be nice to take her for a lil ride while i am out there, we will see.

I will pick the car up sumtime next week, I left him 5k today in cash. I am going to glamis in the AM to drop off 5 of my 110s to a guy from AZ. Anyhow cant wait for the rail!!!!!!

Car looks great in the pics, can't wait to see it in person. The owner of Dominant Sandcars sounds like he has got his s*** together and can put together a well written post and can actually spell (seems to be an issue with some new builders).


Ryan thanks for your help the other night. You the MAN

Yea for sure, had fun. Next time you guys are working on the rail call me, i love that stuf!

is this the same ryan that camped in wash 9 with his dad,dan and brad,and others.

Yea that is where i used to camp, now I am at roadrunner for about 50 days a year, who is this??