I once again have bad news to report on the damm night drag racing guys they trashed the hill again !!!!!!!!

dont mind me i will pick up your Sh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i would not worry to much about them haveing any more events i think this one will get them shutt down!!!!!!!

Everyone please express you opions to the partys involved on there site!!!







I do not think the LEO'S will let them get away with this anymore......


One very Pissed Off......... GP

What a bunch of friggin LOSERS

Some people who call themselves Duner's are not.

GP sorry you had to see that this morning. Hopefully Karma come bacak to haunt them, Preferably on there way home at the hotest part of the day on the narrowest part of the highway. Here's to them rolling there flat spare tire five miles down the road to only find the gas station closed

Awww man that is the pits. I just don't understand how people can be so ignorant....

Tim you have to be in the worst postion ever... YOu work non stop to clean the dunes and then have to see the trashing of our beloved dunes slapped right back in your face after an event that should be fun...

Boy I sure wish I could win the lotto, i'd move closer to the dunes and be there to help keep Mother Glamis clean... Thank you for being you...

Thats just sad, and the people who left it are sadder

just so everyone no's i have sent an email to the Leo's and i am ashured that this kind of event will never happen again.

i am told that there actions will have reprocussions. and quit frankly i hope this gets there areses in a sling. something about holding an event without the proper permits ..

i will pick up there sh** and go about my business as normal ..Thanks to all you gd.comers you keep me going....Tim

P.S here is a link to there site Drag Racer Gather Site

Hopefully if any GD'ers were there, they will speak up about who was responsible for this. If I were there, vigilante justice would have been in order.

That so sucks!!!!

The hubby said it was madness out there...

Wish I would have went just to help pick up that mess...that is just awful how little respect people have for Mother G and all the beauty and fun she provides us...



I'm kinda upset that hubby even went now...

I posted on YFZtech and yfzcentral to let them know what we think of this

some people could care less, they will just go somewhere else, and do it all over again...

I stopped going after I spent over an hour picking up fuel cans, and trash at a night drag event last summer. I don't understand what is so hard about picking up after yourself. Who leaves a BBQ at the hill? There are no excuses this time. Planetsand.com, and Rubdubs racing need to be held responsible.

I agree with you DB, yfztech had nothing to do with this event. This was put together by PS. I hope this teaches them peeps a lesson. this s*** cannot be happening!!!!

Where is the little prick that come over here last year and defended the whole ordeal? Same lames as last year. WTF is wrong with these people? Did anybody from that crew even go back in the morning to clean up?



Who will come over to justify this crap this year?

MIke

Since they cant seem to pick up after themself maybe asking them to donate to help with my fuel cost will get to them . so i created a donation page Donate Gas Money For The Trash Truck..

Thanks To You GD.Commers i will stay in the fight....Tim

A link to the PlanetSand advertiser page

I wonder what they think of these type of actions?

I guess I should call and ask them..

Good call JD. Planet Sand needs to promote responsible use if they plan to promote these gatherings. Plain and simple.

I donated, sucks to hear about the mess you cleaned up, I know how it feels I do it all the time

Good call, send their sponsors a link to this page.

That just plain sucks. Some people are pigs. I just don't understand what goes through their heads. They want to go out there to play but no willing to pick up after themselves. Makes me so made. Here I am picking up the littlest of paper around our camp spot for the night ride and they a holes trash the place.

here we go again.
Some people will never learn.
What a shame

Done..

That is just sad, some people have no respect.

Thanks For the Cash Every penny helps fuel the truck and seeing people care with there wallets keeps me going......you da man...Tim

effin slobs!

Thanks Tim!

My first reactive response to this would be to make that kind of mess in their very own front yard...




























after thinking rationally, I think it probably already looks that way.

they posted on Planetsand that a bunch of them had to buy permits.

Well, maybe mailing them littering tickets would be a good idea.

First off, thanks Tim for all your hard work cleaning up after the effin slobs!






Second, very frustrating to see this mess on a few levels. PSand knew they left a mess last time and did nothing this time except to make it worse.

I thought I read last time , the BLM/ SOs knew about them leaving a mess. Why werent they there to police it or shut it down? Too hot? They sure as hell can shut it down when REAL duners are there.


My .02

Just my opinion here,

Any bad press, is basically BAD PRESS

so by posting pics here, is essentially bad. No matter who did what, it is bad for the duning community. Why is it everytime something bad happens at the ISDRA, it has to be plastered all over the WWW for every eco nazi to gather more ammo against us. Tim this is not a personal attack towards you, believe me, i applaud what you do, but hey you have the 4X4 truck , you have the trash bags, you went and took the pics , why not just pick it up before anyone else sees it.

AGAIN Just my opinion...

I joined their forum.

See this: http://www.planetsand.com/ubbthreads/showf...157/#Post530157

Join too and have fun.

I saw that.




Maybe Slappy can sic the post whores on them and kill their server...

just my opion here

after spending 3 hours out in the heat picking up trash i think the WWW is the place to show that yes people make a mess but we as the duneing comunity are doing somethig about it . i alway post after i have picked up the mess .but you know what they say opinions are like arse holes EVERYBODY has one.
and i have picked up trash several thousand pound and not said a word i just felt in this case someone needs to be accountable....Tim

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Im thinking a few phone calls to complain, or deliver the trash bags Tim picks up to his house!

True, the eco nazi's are probably the masters at spin, lies, and taking things out of context. Yet, it's hard to ignore the fact that real duners have significant heartburn about this childish, selfish and ignorant behavior. I don't think hiding this unacceptable behavior is going to stop it from happening, but it sure might make others who see threads like this have second thoughts about repeating it in the future. Obviously these idiots didn't get a clue the first time.

Come on people...anyone that thinks you can hide this type of stuff is naive.

I say we hold the responsible party accountable.

I ain't gonna' go through life with blinders on. Obviously it is not the majority that do this kind of stupid stuff, and bringing it to light just shows how it angers the real majority of dune users who see it for what it is: Sheer stupidity. Hide it? Sweep it under the rug? Pretend it doesn't happen? I don't think so.

DP and crew aren't doing us any favors, that's for sure. Are we giving them more ammo? Maybe. So what we gotta' do is look out for ourselves, and police ourselves. Somebody knows who these clowns are. They'll be reading themselves how they've flat p'd off the rest of the duning community. They'll get their due I'm sure.

A note to those responsible: Proud of yourselves? Got a case of booze flu this morning? You might wanna' keep your head on a swivel if you know what I mean...

G-Pilot: Keep doin' what you do.

BTW Thanks Tim for cleaning it all up. I REALLY appreciate your hard efforts. YOU make a tremendous difference.

Thank you so much.

Sincerely,
Bill

Did you notice?
Last time they blamed it on the spectators.

So this time they kept it secret.

And they still blame the spectators. Yeah right.

They can blame anybody they want to but it was there event that made the trash it is there trash. If you cannot clean up after yourself and YOUR friends stay home and leave the dunes to duners.

bottom line you promote a race you clean up the race.......they made $$$ from sponces i bet... they need to have ppl pick up the next day.... (this should be required in the permit... or they should get charged the cost of the pick up and a fine!!!) just a thought...

^^^^^^ Exactly. Nice image they have. Asswipes!

I just spoke with Charlie from Planet Sand. This event was NOT a sponsored or sanctioned event of Planet Sand. It was one of their members that got a bunch of people together to race.

HOWEVER, even though it was not an event of theirs, Charlie would like to make "right" on this issue. I will direct him to Tim to take care of things.

Nice job Bill!


Way to get things done!

+1000 rep points..

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIDING ANYTHING. BUT WHEN YOU CRY TO THE MASSES AND THE PRESS, LIKE I SAID ITS JUST MORE AMMO. JUST PICK IT UP. NO NEEED TO POST IT ALL OVER THE WORLD. WE KNOW ITS A PROBLEM , SO LETS ALL DEAL WITH IT TOGETHER.

Now go back to your ice chest.

Better late than never. Too bad they were not a little more proactive about the whole deal but I am interested in hearing what "making it right" involves for them.

ok i get your point.

if you would like to step up and come up with a better way to get the message accross i am all ears.

maybe you would like to donate money for gas???

or sponsor part of the south dunes outreach truck ??

.........Tim

Bill, maybe you should point them slappy's way....it might be a great opportunity to get their website to join in the adopt-a-wash, in a large, official way, like promoting it with their members, and maybe being the official sponsor of the olds hill adopt-a-wash section? To me, it would be great if all the websites could promote the anti-litter message through Slappy's program.

Just got off the phone with Craig, he seems real interested in making this abuse, right.
Tim, I am a computer idiot, and could not figure out how to donate, could you please p.m. me so I can throw a C note your way. You are the man.
Russ & Steph

This is a bullshiat opinion if you ask me. You gonna raise your kids this way to? Is this the way Weekend Warrior does business as well, don't let anyone know there's a problem, just fix it before anyone knows about it.

In MY opinion, Tim's meassage of "There's some pigs in the dunes and we're not gonna put up with that shiat around here" needs to get out. Just maybe these a-holes will think twice before doing it again.