[quote]Voice: Press took cheap and easy route on dunes editorial

Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:49 PM PDT

I read with amusement your recent editorial (Ramping Up; May 28) regarding off-road vehicle management at the Imperial Sand Dunes.

Your premise seems to be that environmentalists fail to influence Bush administration environmental policies because they are not "willing to work with Bureau of Land Management officials." For proof, you add the slanderous assertion that I, as a member of the Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation Commission, have never visited the dunes.

For what it's worth, I've been to the dunes on multiple occasions and recently spent a three-day holiday weekend there to learn about land-management issues. I've also toured the Rand Mountains, Jawbone Canyon, Ord Mountains, Johnson Valley, El Mirage, Stoddard Valley, Yuha Desert, Riverside off-road vehicle park and numerous other areas for the express purpose of learning about ORV management issues and to seek solutions. Many of these trips were sponsored by the BLM. So much for not giving input.

The OHV commission, of which I am a part and which includes off-road, law enforcement and conservation interests, has also expressed its concerns about management in the dunes. More than a year ago, the commission identified five key issues for the BLM to address in its management plan. None were sufficiently addressed. Still, though our input was ignored, the commission nonetheless awarded over $1 million to BLM and Imperial County to address management at the dunes based on the importance of the area.

The Bush administration is in the process of revising every major piece of environmental legislation. To suggest that the conservation community is somehow responsible for the failings of the Bush administration's abhorrent environmental record is ludicrous. Surely you can't expect readers to take such opinions seriously.

And to fall back, as you did in your editorial, on the worn-out cliché that because nobody is happy it must be good is not only an easy way out but glazes over substantial differences of opinion about an important policy question. The job of the press is not to brush these issues under the carpet with cheap shots and slanderous opinions but to bring them to the public attention for a full and honest dialogue.

PAUL SPITLER

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GOD BLESS PAUL SPITLER!

[quote]GOD BLESS PAUL SPITLER![/quote]

Birds of a feather, flock together. :roll: :x

THINK IM GONNA BARF......

He doesn't mention that the stipulation they wanted were so rediculous as to be considered extortion. Of course you are the type that has no problem with government stealing from the people and using the bounty to further suppress them.

[quote]GOD BLESS PAUL SPITLER![/quote]


Another anti-OHV egg head! How does someone who is so blatantly anti-access get on a board that has a hand in drafting the rules that govern said activity? That like putting Hitler is charge of a human rights commission! :roll:

[quote]How does someone who is so blatantly anti-access get on a board that has a hand in drafting the rules that govern said activity?[/quote]

I, for one, am not anti-access. I am pro-environmental responsiblity. You can't deny the effects of off-road rec on our natural environment. I've offered several ideas on how to protect the OPEN areas from being limited by the BLM. It has to do with the OHV community taking a pro-active stance regarding their impacts.

Denying that the impacts exist won't work.

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Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.[/quote]

Please don't feed the troll.

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I, for one, am not anti-access.

I don't remember you being on the board! I really don't care what like, want or believe! So why don't you go and **** yourself! >:< >:< >:<



[b][size=24]IT'S A GOOD THING! :cheese:

There are very few honest things in this world politics, paul spitler and bluesky are the 3 that come to mind. Our nation would of never been discovered if enviromentalist had their way....

Maybe we as a species got a chance to proliferate because the dominant species before us had too many restrictive environmental policies and they died out.