Bugsy
Nov 16 2006, 12:39 PM
So I'm ripping around on my 82 stocker this weekend in the washes.
and I cant get the thing into 3rd... I mean it will shift fine but the little guy doesn't have enough power to keep it moving in 3rd.
Is this normal or is my 70 a weak little biatch.
I am thinking about an aftermarket filter like this:
http://dratv.com/cuairfi35ta.htmlAm I going to have to re jet, if so can I get some recommendations on where to start?
Esco
Nov 16 2006, 01:42 PM
your to heavy moofer, just doing an airfilter change wont make a big deal of a difference but might as well start with the less $$ mods
130 is the main
22.5 is the idle
Bugsy
Nov 16 2006, 02:12 PM
I know im a heavy guy, I just want to make sure its not effed up. I will pull me fine on the road but it doen't have the get up and go for the sand...
should I be able to get through all of the gears in the washes or does it sound like somthing is robbing power?
Esco
Nov 16 2006, 02:15 PM
neither did ours when they were stock in the sand.
hard pack they did okay but still fell flat a little.
I thinks its just the way it is bro
Bugsy
Nov 16 2006, 02:19 PM
damn... ok i will go with the filter.. any other quick power mods?
Esco
Nov 16 2006, 02:21 PM
cam
they are only about $30 will go good with the filter change
Bansh88
Nov 16 2006, 02:21 PM
I have an '82. 3rd is my cruising gear. Even in sand.
I have the K&N.
Esco
Nov 16 2006, 02:22 PM
the dr is having a great sale now also
http://www.dratv.com/bez5atcttrxl.html
Bugsy
Nov 16 2006, 02:24 PM
yeah ??? will that make a good difference?
Crusty
Nov 16 2006, 02:24 PM
What thet said.....Mine is a dog in 3rd.
But i'm collecting cans to put that 107cc kit from DrATV....
Bugsy
Nov 16 2006, 02:56 PM
So what kind of a power increase can I expect form say that cam and the airfilter?
Bugsy
Nov 16 2006, 04:38 PM
Wheres tres?
PWR MAD
Nov 16 2006, 06:16 PM
You might want to check the compression. I out weigh all you guys put together and my stock 70 hauls me through the washes into 4th if I get a run at it.
The one I'm building for my wife was just like what Bugsy is descibing and I had to do a top end on it, now it runs great.
Bugsy
Nov 16 2006, 06:18 PM
hmmm... I will have to get a compression tester... what should it be?
PWR MAD
Nov 16 2006, 06:25 PM
Well, according to the manual, 175 plus or minus 22 PSI
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70'sLifestyle
Nov 16 2006, 06:39 PM
QUOTE(Esco @ Nov 16 2006, 01:42 PM) [snapback]1977060[/snapback]
your to heavy moofer, just doing an airfilter change wont make a big deal of a difference but might as well start with the less $$ mods
130 is the main
22.5 is the idle
Esco, are we talking a larger carb or 130 in a stock carb?? That's huge.
Stock is 58 main & 38 idle. I tried a 19mm carb with a 78 main & 38 idle & couldn't dial it in. It kept bogging at the top end of each gear.
What jets work well with the uni and/or a new cam?
ol brown shoe
Nov 16 2006, 10:59 PM
QUOTE(70'sLifestyle @ Nov 16 2006, 06:39 PM) [snapback]1977708[/snapback]
QUOTE(Esco @ Nov 16 2006, 01:42 PM) [snapback]1977060[/snapback]
your to heavy moofer, just doing an airfilter change wont make a big deal of a difference but might as well start with the less $$ mods
130 is the main
22.5 is the idle
Esco, are we talking a larger carb or 130 in a stock carb?? That's huge.
Stock is 58 main & 38 idle. I tried a 19mm carb with a 78 main & 38 idle & couldn't dial it in. It kept bogging at the top end of each gear.
What jets work well with the uni and/or a new cam?
I'm running a 70 main and 40 pilot with a 82cc kit, stock carb and a K&N filter. I weigh 200lbs and it hauls me in 4th as long as it's not very steep grade.
Esco
Nov 17 2006, 05:52 AM
got this straight from the dr
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MIKUNI MAIN JETS FOR VM20_VM22_TM24 CARB'STHESE ARE SOLD EACH AND WILL NOT FIT THE STOCK HONDA CARBS. THEY ARE FOR THE 20MM AND 22MM MIKUNI CARB'S WE SELL AS A REPLACEMENT CARB. THE SIZE OF JET WILL VARY WITH THE CONDITION, SIZE AND PERFORMANCE ADDITIONS TO THE ENGINE. MOST STOCK 70'S WILL BE AROUND A 130 AND STOCK 90'S AROUND 140. THE CARB COMES FROM THE FACTORY WITH AN 180 MAIN JET SO MOST OF THE TIME YOU WILL NEED A SMALLER JET. ALSO WE HAVE FOUND THAT THE 22.5 IDLE JET WILL WORK IN 90% OF THE APPLICATIONS.
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treshombre
Nov 17 2006, 07:24 AM
QUOTE(Esco @ Nov 17 2006, 05:52 AM) [snapback]1978296[/snapback]
got this straight from the dr
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MIKUNI MAIN JETS FOR VM20_VM22_TM24 CARB'STHESE ARE SOLD EACH AND WILL NOT FIT THE STOCK HONDA CARBS. THEY ARE FOR THE 20MM AND 22MM MIKUNI CARB'S WE SELL AS A REPLACEMENT CARB.. THE SIZE OF JET WILL VARY WITH THE CONDITION, SIZE AND PERFORMANCE ADDITIONS TO THE ENGINE. MOST STOCK 70'S WILL BE AROUND A 130 AND STOCK 90'S AROUND 140. THE CARB COMES FROM THE FACTORY WITH AN 180 MAIN JET SO MOST OF THE TIME YOU WILL NEED A SMALLER JET. ALSO WE HAVE FOUND THAT THE 22.5 IDLE JET WILL WORK IN 90% OF THE APPLICATIONS.
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I think what Jack meant that a normal 70 with the 20-22mm "upgraded" carb would be 130
stock 70's are as lifestyle said 58
treshombre
Nov 17 2006, 07:30 AM
QUOTE(Bugsy @ Nov 16 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]1977448[/snapback]
Wheres tres?
Sorry, getting ready for a week in G
I'd start be checking compression, Timing can rob power too,
Bugsy
Nov 20 2006, 02:47 PM
Anyone done anything to the stock exhaust to get a little more HP out of these things without making it sound like an aeroplane?
Mr.DUNE
Nov 20 2006, 04:02 PM
Their's really nothing you can do to a stock exhaust to get more power out of it except gutting the thing but then it get's real loud...
Bugsy
Nov 30 2006, 08:35 AM
i tried it gutted and man it is LOUD I will stick with the stock exhaust.
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