GlamisSpider
Dec 12 2006, 08:51 AM
Tips to not get stuck?
And what do you do, when you get stuck?
Picking up new Moho on Friday, just wondering what you guys do?
I have seen airing down, floatation tires, carpet rolls?
But what I want to know is details, details, details.
Airing Down - What PSI?
Floatation Tires - Where do you get the rims and what tires do you use?
Carpet Rolls - What type, how do you use them?
Thanks,
For you time?
ChuckZilla
Dec 12 2006, 09:15 AM
When you lose the ability to move forward and start to go downward let off and coast to stop. Trust me, there is no magic traction 8 inches below the surface. Best to get tethered in if possible. Take long planks with you, when you feel like you getting stuck start planking, or pull out the guns and do some plinking.
azsandrider
Dec 12 2006, 12:31 PM
Be careful were you go and learn how to 'read' the dirt/sand to avoid soft sections.
When you go to the dunes, expect to get stuck every time, and plan accordingly.
Put strong tow hooks or tow points on the front of your RV just in case.
Carry a 'real' shovel, not a small folding one. Actually, carry several shovels so your buddies can help too.
Carry plates to put under your leveling jacks to prevent then from sinking in the sand so you can lift the RV up out of its hole, this prevents a lot of digging as you can just fill in the holes, put your carpet-wood-whatever down under the tires and lower the RV on it.
I carry two sections of thick rubber conveyer belt, just in case.
Several long tow straps rated for the weight. I hook a 'bridal' to the tow points on my RV so the pulling weight is evenly distributed between them.
Don't let ANYONE else try to attach tow straps to your vehicle, do it YOURSELF!!! I've seen many RVs damaged by people who let strangers hook up their RV with a strap to a weak spot.
Don't let any old yahoo in a 4X4 truck pull you out. Hopefully, you can find an experienced, responsible person with a truck to tow you out. I've seen people ask irresponsible people in trucks to pull them out and the guy in the truck didn't care and just floored it, ripping off a RV's bumper
Lastly, if you get stuck, don't panic or get excited. Chill out and analyze the situation to make a plan to remove the vehicle. I've seen to many people stress out and do really stupd things to get out, resulting in a damaged RV and usually getting stuck WORSE.
I've been going to the dunes for over 18 years and only have been stuck a handful of times. I mostly have gone to Gordons Well, Buttercup, and Olgiby Tower and a few times to the Sand Washes and Garbage Flats. I don't park on the pads. I also refuse to beat up my RV by driving fast over the whoops & bumps. I would rather get stuck! I don't worry about getting stuck, as it happens to everyone eventually if you camp other then on the pads. Having the proper equipment and the proper attitude really helps.
hillgraphics
Dec 12 2006, 03:25 PM
Don't get stuck..
Stay on the gas.. you will start to bog down but as long as you keep moving forward then don't let off.. if you come to a stop then STOP.. to try to rock your self out..
Know your limits..
Don't go deep late at night...
my .02
cmyfirepole
Dec 12 2006, 03:32 PM
QUOTE(ChuckZilla @ Dec 12 2006, 09:15 AM) [snapback]2018721[/snapback]
When you lose the ability to move forward and start to go downward let off and coast to stop. Trust me, there is no magic traction 8 inches below the surface. Best to get tethered in if possible. Take long planks with you, when you feel like you getting stuck start planking, or pull out the guns and do some plinking.

That's great advice right there. I've seen toooooo many people just keep gassing it and dig in deeper. All they're doing is making more work for them.
GlamisSpider
Dec 13 2006, 06:37 AM
That's some good advice,
Where did you find ruber conveyer mats?
azsandrider
Dec 13 2006, 10:06 AM
QUOTE(GlamisSpider @ Dec 13 2006, 07:37 AM) [snapback]2020812[/snapback]
Where did you find ruber conveyer mats?
You just have to ask around places that have industrial conveyors, like mine sites or gravel pits. See if they have any old belts waiting for disposal and ask if you can cut two sections out. Bring your sawzall with a good blade and don't go longer that 5', as they get heavy.
I've had mine for over 15+ years and used them twice.
CHIZZLE
Dec 15 2006, 05:43 AM
QUOTE(azsandrider @ Dec 12 2006, 01:31 PM) [snapback]2019150[/snapback]
Be careful were you go and learn how to 'read' the dirt/sand to avoid soft sections.
When you go to the dunes, expect to get stuck every time, and plan accordingly.
Put strong tow hooks or tow points on the front of your RV just in case.
Carry a 'real' shovel, not a small folding one. Actually, carry several shovels so your buddies can help too.
Carry plates to put under your leveling jacks to prevent then from sinking in the sand so you can lift the RV up out of its hole, this prevents a lot of digging as you can just fill in the holes, put your carpet-wood-whatever down under the tires and lower the RV on it.
I carry two sections of thick rubber conveyer belt, just in case.
Several long tow straps rated for the weight. I hook a 'bridal' to the tow points on my RV so the pulling weight is evenly distributed between them.
Don't let ANYONE else try to attach tow straps to your vehicle, do it YOURSELF!!! I've seen many RVs damaged by people who let strangers hook up their RV with a strap to a weak spot.
Don't let any old yahoo in a 4X4 truck pull you out. Hopefully, you can find an experienced, responsible person with a truck to tow you out. I've seen people ask irresponsible people in trucks to pull them out and the guy in the truck didn't care and just floored it, ripping off a RV's bumper
Lastly, if you get stuck, don't panic or get excited. Chill out and analyze the situation to make a plan to remove the vehicle. I've seen to many people stress out and do really stupd things to get out, resulting in a damaged RV and usually getting stuck WORSE.
I've been going to the dunes for over 18 years and only have been stuck a handful of times. I mostly have gone to Gordons Well, Buttercup, and Olgiby Tower and a few times to the Sand Washes and Garbage Flats. I don't park on the pads. I also refuse to beat up my RV by driving fast over the whoops & bumps. I would rather get stuck! I don't worry about getting stuck, as it happens to everyone eventually if you camp other then on the pads. Having the proper equipment and the proper attitude really helps.
What's a bridal?
t-tate
Dec 15 2006, 06:45 AM
If you can unload a bike,take a run back to were you plan
to camp to find the best route. If not have someone already
at camp guide you in.
Oldman
Dec 15 2006, 07:05 AM
QUOTE(chancemows @ Dec 15 2006, 05:43 AM) [snapback]2025613[/snapback]
QUOTE(azsandrider @ Dec 12 2006, 01:31 PM) [snapback]2019150[/snapback]
Be careful were you go and learn how to 'read' the dirt/sand to avoid soft sections.
When you go to the dunes, expect to get stuck every time, and plan accordingly.
Put strong tow hooks or tow points on the front of your RV just in case.
Carry a 'real' shovel, not a small folding one. Actually, carry several shovels so your buddies can help too.
Carry plates to put under your leveling jacks to prevent then from sinking in the sand so you can lift the RV up out of its hole, this prevents a lot of digging as you can just fill in the holes, put your carpet-wood-whatever down under the tires and lower the RV on it.
I carry two sections of thick rubber conveyer belt, just in case.
Several long tow straps rated for the weight. I hook a 'bridal' to the tow points on my RV so the pulling weight is evenly distributed between them.
Don't let ANYONE else try to attach tow straps to your vehicle, do it YOURSELF!!! I've seen many RVs damaged by people who let strangers hook up their RV with a strap to a weak spot.
Don't let any old yahoo in a 4X4 truck pull you out. Hopefully, you can find an experienced, responsible person with a truck to tow you out. I've seen people ask irresponsible people in trucks to pull them out and the guy in the truck didn't care and just floored it, ripping off a RV's bumper
Lastly, if you get stuck, don't panic or get excited. Chill out and analyze the situation to make a plan to remove the vehicle. I've seen to many people stress out and do really stupd things to get out, resulting in a damaged RV and usually getting stuck WORSE.
I've been going to the dunes for over 18 years and only have been stuck a handful of times. I mostly have gone to Gordons Well, Buttercup, and Olgiby Tower and a few times to the Sand Washes and Garbage Flats. I don't park on the pads. I also refuse to beat up my RV by driving fast over the whoops & bumps. I would rather get stuck! I don't worry about getting stuck, as it happens to everyone eventually if you camp other then on the pads. Having the proper equipment and the proper attitude really helps.
What's a bridal?
Main Entry: 1bri·dle
Function: noun
Pronunciation: 'brī-d & l
2 : a length of line or cable attached to two parts of something to spread the force of a pull ; especially : rigging on a kite for attaching line
I have one also that attaches to my two tow hooks. I put it through loop of the tow strap and then you are pulling on both sides of the frame.
slief
Dec 22 2006, 08:16 AM
I have been stuck a couple times in my 39' class A.. I have learned quite a bit from that though and I am well prepared now. If you go into the sand, prepare to get stuck.
First thing I would suggest if getting stuck is a real possibility is making sure you have a good place to hook up towstraps in the front. My class A for example had no place to hook up that would not have resulted in ripping off the front end of my RV. I opted to add a hitch receiver up front which works out very well. Not only does it give me a good hookup point to a tow strap, but I can also use it for a motorcycle receiver carrier or any other hitch receiver carrier.
Next thing that I did was invest in a few sets of Staun tire deflators.. These are priceless as you can deflate 4 tires in less then 10 minutes while kicking back having a drink!!! I have 1 set for the RV that deflated down to 30 psi... Then I have 2 other sets that deflate to 15 psi for the trailer and the chase vehicle if I have one. Airing down is key. Front and back of the RV and the trailer as well.
Next investment was inflators.. I had Power Tank make me a custom setup for the RV that has 2 euro chucks that clip onto the valve stems. The other end hooks up to a CO2 bottle and there are also regulated blow off valves that will blow off at 110PSI. Filling up is now hands free and I cant overfill with the blow offs which is nice. It takes about 5 minutes to fill 2 tires on the RV from 30 PSI to 110PSi. With a compressor, it takes about 20 min for 2. For the trailer I have a similar 2 tire set up that runs of the compressor.
With the above hardware, airing down everything (up to 12 tires) takes less than 15 minutes. Filling up takes about the same.
Another valuable lesson I learned was to use the Hydraulic levelers on the RV when I get stuck. Jack up the rear tires, throw some sand underneath, make sure there is a clear path if not dig one and try again.. usually I will back up first after getting stuck as it is usually packed down from the first pass. Stay on the gas like they said.
Another suggestion would be that if you are planning on camping in the soft stuff, having buddies with 4x4's can be very helpful. On my last trip to Pismo, the group I was camping with (Supreme Air) camped way back off the beach in the soft stuff. Knowing well that I could not make it up there on my own, he and one of his buddies in another truck hooked up to my RV and pulled a train! One truck pulling another truck who was pulling me. From the drivers seat, it was quite a sight! The truck in the middle was getting pulled in every direction. Looked like it was going to break in half. Well it didn't and we made it way back up in the sand without any issues! So having friends with trucks in good mmmmkay!
Hope that helps!
GlamisSpider
Dec 24 2006, 10:41 PM
QUOTE(slief @ Dec 22 2006, 08:16 AM) [snapback]2040618[/snapback]
I have been stuck a couple times in my 39' class A.. I have learned quite a bit from that though and I am well prepared now. If you go into the sand, prepare to get stuck.
First thing I would suggest if getting stuck is a real possibility is making sure you have a good place to hook up towstraps in the front. My class A for example had no place to hook up that would not have resulted in ripping off the front end of my RV. I opted to add a hitch receiver up front which works out very well. Not only does it give me a good hookup point to a tow strap, but I can also use it for a motorcycle receiver carrier or any other hitch receiver carrier.
Next thing that I did was invest in a few sets of Staun tire deflators.. These are priceless as you can deflate 4 tires in less then 10 minutes while kicking back having a drink!!! I have 1 set for the RV that deflated down to 30 psi... Then I have 2 other sets that deflate to 15 psi for the trailer and the chase vehicle if I have one. Airing down is key. Front and back of the RV and the trailer as well.
Next investment was inflators.. I had Power Tank make me a custom setup for the RV that has 2 euro chucks that clip onto the valve stems. The other end hooks up to a CO2 bottle and there are also regulated blow off valves that will blow off at 110PSI. Filling up is now hands free and I cant overfill with the blow offs which is nice. It takes about 5 minutes to fill 2 tires on the RV from 30 PSI to 110PSi. With a compressor, it takes about 20 min for 2. For the trailer I have a similar 2 tire set up that runs of the compressor.
With the above hardware, airing down everything (up to 12 tires) takes less than 15 minutes. Filling up takes about the same.
Another valuable lesson I learned was to use the Hydraulic levelers on the RV when I get stuck. Jack up the rear tires, throw some sand underneath, make sure there is a clear path if not dig one and try again.. usually I will back up first after getting stuck as it is usually packed down from the first pass. Stay on the gas like they said.
Another suggestion would be that if you are planning on camping in the soft stuff, having buddies with 4x4's can be very helpful. On my last trip to Pismo, the group I was camping with (Supreme Air) camped way back off the beach in the soft stuff. Knowing well that I could not make it up there on my own, he and one of his buddies in another truck hooked up to my RV and pulled a train! One truck pulling another truck who was pulling me. From the drivers seat, it was quite a sight! The truck in the middle was getting pulled in every direction. Looked like it was going to break in half. Well it didn't and we made it way back up in the sand without any issues! So having friends with trucks in good mmmmkay!
Hope that helps!
I am going to have to check out the deflators. I picked up a set of conveyer belts and a bunch of small pieces of wood for pads.
We will see....
yfz11t
Jan 24 2007, 09:05 PM
QUOTE(slief @ Dec 22 2006, 08:16 AM) [snapback]2040618[/snapback]
I opted to add a hitch receiver up front which works out very well.
Just curious, where did you get this front reciever hitch for a MH? I like this idea.
Thanks
SHOCKER
Jan 25 2007, 05:57 AM
No one has mentioned this yet.
You cant air down motorhome tires. I remember the big conversation a while ago about everyone explaning why yo ucant do this. I guess its bad for the tires because there is some metal in the sidewal or something and if you take the pressure out it will ruin it?
Tips:
Dont get stuck
If you are stuck raise the rear of the motorhome out of the sand and push sand back underneath it, then get someone to tow you.
journeyman
Jan 31 2007, 12:39 AM
Be carefull on airing down hiway tires on a motor home.
Some brands/makes of tires handle it OK, some do not.
You may not find out until you on the hiway at hiway speeds. I have a good amount of experience with this and will NOT air down my motor home hiway tires.
A note on getting pulled in:
Allow the pull vehicle to supply the power.
The best situation is when your motor home acts like an "effortless trailer", meaning that if you are on the gas 'just enough' to keep your rig afloat.
Too heavy on the gas in your motor home will make it plow actually making it pull harder.
Easy on the gas... It will float easy
brokedad
Nov 24 2008, 08:13 PM
one of the best things i have found is chain link fence.it folds up nice for storage get 2 or 4 pieces 6ft long it works great in sand.spreads out weight and grips the sand.most people can find scrap pieces.also works in mud.
casualrider033
Nov 24 2008, 08:28 PM
And for crying out loud don't jam the steering wheel hard left or hard right when being pulled out. Try to keep it as straight as possible to reduce drag. You might also want to consider unloading your toys from your trailer or disconnecting your trailer from your moho if you get stuck.
Bwells
Feb 22 2009, 03:25 PM
QUOTE (casualrider033 @ Nov 24 2008, 08:28 PM)

And for crying out loud don't jam the steering wheel hard left or hard right when being pulled out. Try to keep it as straight as possible to reduce drag. You might also want to consider unloading your toys from your trailer or disconnecting your trailer from your moho if you get stuck.
First, on a motorhome or pusher, airing the tires down is a last resort ( like everyone has gone home and you are the only one in the dunes). If you have not priced tires they run from $200 to $300 each. If you get stuck first use your jacks with wood or plates, not the plastic ones and get the coach off the sand to fill in the holes. Second make sure you have a clean out, and power brake the coach. Power braking is where you place one foot on the brake and the other on the gas. Get the RPMs up (diesel around 1800 to 2000 gas 2000 to 2500) let off the brake and the coach most of the time will drive itself out. DO NOT turn the wheels sharp! Last go get you a 4x8 plywood and cut it in to two 2x8 palce them in your trailer, you can use them when you put your rear door down from dig in the sand and second you can place them under the rear tires for grip. All the above items to bring is a must also. The best is to stop before you committ and check out the sand.
Brandon Long
Feb 15 2010, 11:23 PM
QUOTE (Bwells @ Feb 22 2009, 03:25 PM)

QUOTE (casualrider033 @ Nov 24 2008, 08:28 PM)

And for crying out loud don't jam the steering wheel hard left or hard right when being pulled out. Try to keep it as straight as possible to reduce drag. You might also want to consider unloading your toys from your trailer or disconnecting your trailer from your moho if you get stuck.
First, on a motorhome or pusher, airing the tires down is a last resort ( like everyone has gone home and you are the only one in the dunes). If you have not priced tires they run from $200 to $300 each. If you get stuck first use your jacks with wood or plates, not the plastic ones and get the coach off the sand to fill in the holes. Second make sure you have a clean out, and power brake the coach. Power braking is where you place one foot on the brake and the other on the gas. Get the RPMs up (diesel around 1800 to 2000 gas 2000 to 2500) let off the brake and the coach most of the time will drive itself out. DO NOT turn the wheels sharp! Last go get you a 4x8 plywood and cut it in to two 2x8 palce them in your trailer, you can use them when you put your rear door down from dig in the sand and second you can place them under the rear tires for grip. All the above items to bring is a must also. The best is to stop before you committ and check out the sand.
I saw last weekend a few coaches just putting plank after plank and backing out into the sand for a camp. Looked like a good idea but I was not too sure how thick their wood was? I would think the wood would snap. Also can you effectively get a hitch for the front of a diesel when the generator is there? How would you tow a pusher out from the front without?
Brandon
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