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Middy
Ok so he ran away with that, what he running in there that is helping him so much. Other than some good driving and a good suspension???
Jeff@MafiaInd
Great racing on sunday!! We hope next time we don't brake an axle and can be more competitve.
madmachinist
Great video.. great race.. The flying banana strikes again! yay.gif That driver is not afraid to air it out smile.gif
bajabuggin
Awesome. Thanks for the Vid.
WOTM
QUOTE(BajaBuggin @ Dec 18 2006, 10:12 AM) [snapback]2030918[/snapback]

Awesome. Thanks for the Vid.



Very nice! I can't wait to short course my rhino....
Journeys
wow, that looks like fun, where is this?
Mr. Off-Road
Really great job on that video! The best part is that I got to hear the sounds of the race instead of some wanna-be-trash-punk-metal crap music. You filmed the action very well, nice work.

Cole Trickle
Cool video.

That HRT Rhino is sweet.

What motor combos are most of the competitive guys running? (Rhinos feel alot faster than that video shows....hehe)
TEE
igor.gif peace.gif igor.gif
s2k1
The HRT Rhino has a BRP CDI and an FMF pipe, that's it!
richard cheese
thats like 6 ft + of air off that big jump!!
RRRhino
Who won the race?
Cole Trickle
QUOTE(s2k1 @ Dec 18 2006, 10:05 AM) [snapback]2031003[/snapback]

The HRT Rhino has a BRP CDI and an FMF pipe, that's it!


cool... igor.gif

I would love to see that thing motor around the course with double the HP!!! osg.gif

coryz71
Great job on the video!

What suspension is the yellow one running?
Sarge
I like that,the banana rocks! jump.gif
Mr. Off-Road
QUOTE(s2k1 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:05 AM) [snapback]2031003[/snapback]

The HRT Rhino has a BRP CDI and an FMF pipe, that's it!


How can that be, some of those race rhinos have full race motors. I dont think it is possible to get that much power/speed out of a stock motor to pull off those big jumps.

I have raced 686 Rhinos and they blow away stock rhinos. I am sure some 686 rhinos on this forum would like to race against that yellow rhino.
TVS graphics+apparel
theres not much to that yellow rhino cage wise. so its probably very light.
DA Rhino
QUOTE(Mr Offroad @ Dec 18 2006, 01:22 PM) [snapback]2031419[/snapback]

QUOTE(s2k1 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:05 AM) [snapback]2031003[/snapback]

The HRT Rhino has a BRP CDI and an FMF pipe, that's it!


How can that be, some of those race rhinos have full race motors. I dont think it is possible to get that much power/speed out of a stock motor to pull off those big jumps.

I have raced 686 Rhinos and they blow away stock rhinos. I am sure some 686 rhinos on this forum would like to race against that yellow rhino.


With the right weight, clutch, and carb/pipe setup they move real good.

Come on Rhino Mafia (Travis) said his stock Rhino does 65 MPH.

I guess it all depends on what you call stock! LOL



The Green one has a Alba stroker motor!



TDA
nosocks
Did I see some standard travels?

If so how'd they do?
Jeff@MafiaInd
QUOTE(DA Rhino @ Dec 18 2006, 01:31 PM) [snapback]2031438[/snapback]

QUOTE(Mr Offroad @ Dec 18 2006, 01:22 PM) [snapback]2031419[/snapback]

QUOTE(s2k1 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:05 AM) [snapback]2031003[/snapback]

The HRT Rhino has a BRP CDI and an FMF pipe, that's it!


How can that be, some of those race rhinos have full race motors. I dont think it is possible to get that much power/speed out of a stock motor to pull off those big jumps.

I have raced 686 Rhinos and they blow away stock rhinos. I am sure some 686 rhinos on this forum would like to race against that yellow rhino.


With the right weight, clutch, and carb/pipe setup they move real good.

Come on Rhino Mafia (Travis) said his stock Rhino does 65 MPH.

I guess it all depends on what you call stock! LOL



The Green one has a Alba stroker motor!



TDA



The first race Travis ran with his 686 bore and cam (no porting) was the Rhino Nationals in AZ. Everything before that was a stock motor with carb exhaust, and clutch.

We run (lime green rhino) an Alba 760 stroker, nothing to hide here.


BTW Glen, as I have said before, Travis is not Rhino Mafia. Rhino Mafia is the shop that built his car for him. Travis is a great driver that we sponsor.
DA Rhino
QUOTE(Sinister @ Dec 18 2006, 02:10 PM) [snapback]2031491[/snapback]

QUOTE(DA Rhino @ Dec 18 2006, 01:31 PM) [snapback]2031438[/snapback]

QUOTE(Mr Offroad @ Dec 18 2006, 01:22 PM) [snapback]2031419[/snapback]

QUOTE(s2k1 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:05 AM) [snapback]2031003[/snapback]

The HRT Rhino has a BRP CDI and an FMF pipe, that's it!


How can that be, some of those race rhinos have full race motors. I dont think it is possible to get that much power/speed out of a stock motor to pull off those big jumps.

I have raced 686 Rhinos and they blow away stock rhinos. I am sure some 686 rhinos on this forum would like to race against that yellow rhino.


With the right weight, clutch, and carb/pipe setup they move real good.

Come on Rhino Mafia (Travis) said his stock Rhino does 65 MPH.

I guess it all depends on what you call stock! LOL



The Green one has a Alba stroker motor!



TDA



The first race Travis ran with his 686 bore and cam (no porting) was the Rhino Nationals in AZ. Everything before that was a stock motor with carb exhaust, and clutch.

We run (lime green rhino) an Alba 760 stroker, nothing to hide here.


BTW Glen, as I have said before, Travis is not Rhino Mafia. Rhino Mafia is the shop that built his car for him. Travis is a great driver that we sponsor.


I guess I should have said the White Rhino Mafia (Travis) wife.gif icon_wink.gif I was not refering to Travis as Rhino Mafia but as the car he drives! Sorry! smile.gif

Any mod to the stock motor ie: carb, exhaust, CDI makes it a modified motor. hello1.gif

Like I said it depends on what you call stock. mrdune.gif

How come the axles keep breaking???? I thought Gear one worked out the bugs.

DAR peace.gif
Jeff@MafiaInd
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Any mod to the stock motor ie: carb, exhaust, CDI makes it a modified motor. hello1.gif



How come the axles keep breaking???? I thought Gear one worked out the bugs.

DAR peace.gif
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Most "STOCK" classes allow at least a CDI and exhaust!! grenade.gif

We were using Gorilla axles on Sunday thumb.gif
willy4x4s
So the axle that gave way was a "Gorilla Axle"?
se7en30
After watching the video; I can believe that the motor is stock with just CDI and Pipe. However, clutching seems to be modified. Clutching can make or break a rhino... Ask anyone running high HP/Torque numbers...
Also whomever is driving the yellow rhino is a MUCH better racer/driver than the others. There were several times when you could see it in the jump setups, etc. I would say either races MX or cars or trucks or something. Seems to know when to be on the gas and when not to.
Also right before he passes the Green RM rhino that was totally due to his suspension being setup ALOT better. Im not saying it is a BETTER suspension; just seemed to be dialed in for that track better. Valving & setup makes a huge difference as well.
Whose shocks/suspension setup is he running? Looks different than what i've seen. Are those the dual Kings?
Mr. Off-Road
next week or the following week if Rhino Mafia wins there wont be a mention here on this forum about it... only when someone beats them do they get all excited post about it.
s2k1
QUOTE(se7en30 @ Dec 18 2006, 05:15 PM) [snapback]2031771[/snapback]

After watching the video; I can believe that the motor is stock with just CDI and Pipe. However, clutching seems to be modified. Clutching can make or break a rhino... Ask anyone running high HP/Torque numbers...
Also whomever is driving the yellow rhino is a MUCH better racer/driver than the others. There were several times when you could see it in the jump setups, etc. I would say either races MX or cars or trucks or something. Seems to know when to be on the gas and when not to.
Also right before he passes the Green RM rhino that was totally due to his suspension being setup ALOT better. Im not saying it is a BETTER suspension; just seemed to be dialed in for that track better. Valving & setup makes a huge difference as well.
Whose shocks/suspension setup is he running? Looks different than what i've seen. Are those the dual Kings?

Clutching is important, but the clutch, belt, sheaves, etc are stock on the HRT Rhino. As I said before, only BRP CDI and a pipe.
The chassis mods and suspension are from HRT Motorsports. Those are Fox shocks, NOT Kings. osg.gif
www.HRTMotorsports.net
McGill
QUOTE(Mr Offroad @ Dec 18 2006, 05:23 PM) [snapback]2031781[/snapback]

next week or the following week if Rhino Mafia wins there wont be a mention here on this forum about it... only when someone beats them do they get all excited post about it.


I don't work for HRT Motorsports but I did go there last weekend to watch them race. They've only raced this last weekend and the weekend before. They came in 1st, 1st, 3rd (due to pulling off the track for 30 seconds because of a fuel problem), and 1st. I guess they were just lucky or everyone else was just unlucky in those races?

Give credit where credit is due. Their suspension is the best in the Rhino business right now. I also find it interesting that they didn't break any spindles or axles with their suspension setup in any of those races even though they were pushing their Rhino harder than anyone else on the track. He doesn't have the acceleration that the others have so he has to keep his momentum up where others can back off a little. Todd Arthur is an excellent driver and that gives them an advantage. But racing a STOCK (meaning the motor has not been bored, stroked, ported, cam, milled head, sheave, clutch, carb, intake, etc.) against a 760 or 686 probably takes away a little of that advantage.

Competiton is a good thing, don't be so afraid of it...



KingGlamis
QUOTE(norocksplease @ Dec 18 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]2031449[/snapback]

Did I see some standard travels?

If so how'd they do?


I'm curious too. How did the mostly-stock suspension Rhinos do? From the first lap or so it looked like they did fairly decent considering the disadvantage they had.
450grl
Definately an amazing driver - that's what won those races - knowing how to keep up the momentum, and not loose traction......great video to watch!
Jeff@MafiaInd
QUOTE(McGill @ Dec 18 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]2032142[/snapback]

QUOTE(Mr Offroad @ Dec 18 2006, 05:23 PM) [snapback]2031781[/snapback]

next week or the following week if Rhino Mafia wins there wont be a mention here on this forum about it... only when someone beats them do they get all excited post about it.


I don't work for HRT Motorsports but I did go there last weekend to watch them race. They've only raced this last weekend and the weekend before. They came in 1st, 1st, 3rd (due to pulling off the track for 30 seconds because of a fuel problem), and 1st. I guess they were just lucky or everyone else was just unlucky in those races?

Give credit where credit is due. Their suspension is the best in the Rhino business right now. I also find it interesting that they didn't break any spindles or axles with their suspension setup in any of those races even though they were pushing their Rhino harder than anyone else on the track. He doesn't have the acceleration that the others have so he has to keep his momentum up where others can back off a little. Todd Arthur is an excellent driver and that gives them an advantage. But racing a STOCK (meaning the motor has not been bored, stroked, ported, cam, milled head, sheave, clutch, carb, intake, etc.) against a 760 or 686 probably takes away a little of that advantage.

Competiton is a good thing, don't be so afraid of it...



I just want to respond to the axle breaking part. We were hit hard at last weekends race where it had sliced our tire and punched a 1 inch hole in our rim. That is what caused the stress to the axle, it was only a matter of time to when it would break.

Anyone who gets in the mix and rubs and bumps will eventually break an axle.

I will also agree that Todd is an excellent driver and fabricator.
Mr. Off-Road
QUOTE(McGill @ Dec 18 2006, 09:46 PM) [snapback]2032142[/snapback]

QUOTE(Mr Offroad @ Dec 18 2006, 05:23 PM) [snapback]2031781[/snapback]

next week or the following week if Rhino Mafia wins there wont be a mention here on this forum about it... only when someone beats them do they get all excited post about it.


I don't work for HRT Motorsports but I did go there last weekend to watch them race. They've only raced this last weekend and the weekend before. They came in 1st, 1st, 3rd (due to pulling off the track for 30 seconds because of a fuel problem), and 1st. I guess they were just lucky or everyone else was just unlucky in those races?

Give credit where credit is due. Their suspension is the best in the Rhino business right now. I also find it interesting that they didn't break any spindles or axles with their suspension setup in any of those races even though they were pushing their Rhino harder than anyone else on the track. He doesn't have the acceleration that the others have so he has to keep his momentum up where others can back off a little. Todd Arthur is an excellent driver and that gives them an advantage. But racing a STOCK (meaning the motor has not been bored, stroked, ported, cam, milled head, sheave, clutch, carb, intake, etc.) against a 760 or 686 probably takes away a little of that advantage.

Competiton is a good thing, don't be so afraid of it...





Competition is a great thing, and that guy Todd drives very well. I do think that the claim their suspension is the best in the business seems a little boastful considering as far as we know only 1 rhino runs it and there are no pics of it anywhere. There are lots of very good long travel kits out there and even I am hesitant to say that one is the definitively THE BEST.

By the way, who sets up these races, when is the next one?
TVS graphics+apparel
a bypass can make a huge difference in handling. not to mention ease of setup.
masonmotorsports
You guys are leaving out one big thing. Rhino Mafia still won the race and took the title for the whole series. So congrats Jeff and Chad.
Mr. Off-Road
QUOTE(TVS graphics+apparel @ Dec 19 2006, 11:55 AM) [snapback]2033241[/snapback]

a bypass can make a huge difference in handling. not to mention ease of setup.


yes, it is a big difference,... most race rhinos dont run it because its not legal under UTVRA race spec.


Mason-

does that mean no more races at Elsinore anytime soon?


Congratz Chad and Jeff!
450grl
Congrats to Rhino Mafia for setting such a high level of competition, too!! smile.gif
RRRhino
Congrats Rhino Mafia.

Podium Productions puts on the races at Elsinore and from what i hear there will be a new series starting next year. Also there is a series at Glen Helen ITP quad races that has a rhino class. First race is Jan 21st. I hope to be there with the new my new race rhino. Hope to see you all there..
nosocks
QUOTE(KingGlamis @ Dec 18 2006, 09:14 PM) [snapback]2032202[/snapback]

QUOTE(norocksplease @ Dec 18 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]2031449[/snapback]

Did I see some standard travels?

If so how'd they do?


I'm curious too. How did the mostly-stock suspension Rhinos do? From the first lap or so it looked like they did fairly decent considering the disadvantage they had.




Still waiting on the answer to this question...

I'm ready to race!
se7en30
QUOTE(s2k1 @ Dec 18 2006, 05:58 PM) [snapback]2031838[/snapback]


Clutching is important, but the clutch, belt, sheaves, etc are stock on the HRT Rhino. As I said before, only BRP CDI and a pipe.
The chassis mods and suspension are from HRT Motorsports. Those are Fox shocks, NOT Kings. osg.gif
www.HRTMotorsports.net


Thanks for the info on the shocks; my bad.

Why do they not list anything on their site about their setup or products?

If there are no clutch mods, totally stock motor then they have their suspension setup dialed and he kicks ass as a driver, period.

Nothing more to say than that.
HRT Race
QUOTE
Why do they not list anything on their site about their setup or products?

If there are no clutch mods, totally stock motor then they have their suspension setup dialed and he kicks ass as a driver, period.

Nothing more to say than that.



Thanks for all the good words on our Rhino, and I am sure Todd appreicates the props for his driving!

Our website is in need of an update, so thats why there isnt any real info on our Rhino kits...not to mention more sand car and custom fabrication info as well...give it time. Once we get a little more ahead with all that we have going on right now, we will turn our attention to the website.

Oh and once again, the motor/shifter/clutch/etc is bone stock.....just a Black Rhino chip and an FMF pipe. The air filter is still stock... If you watch the video you will notice that Todd isnt near the front of the pack off the start....so it's obvious what rhinos have built motors and which ones have stock ones. Fortunately for us there is more to winning an offroad race than just horsepower.

Anyway, congrats to the Rhino Mafia guys and their driver for taking the overall win for the series!


-HRT
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