I would like to hear from anybody and everybody that has the LSR MTS +3 LT Kit or has riden in a Rhino with this kit....... I would like to hear your first hand experience with the kit. Good or Bad ..... performance and durability...... Thanks.

me too!

Im really interested in it as well. Everything i've sseen on it looks really good! and i know the guys over at LSR know there sheeit.

Plus i've already spent big bucks on my stock length Elkas, so it makes sense for me.

Come on Mike Step up and get it and let us know all about it.

I have it and LOVE IT!!! Now, I havent ever ridden in a +6 kit so I cant compare it to those but compared to stock it is night and day difference.

I have taken it in trails and in sand and the thing is FANTASTIC!!! It has handled ever jump I have taken and is smooth over MOST whoops. It handled Cleghorn trail MUCH MUCH better then when I took my stock Rhino out. It DID NOT handle the massive whoops at Olds very well. I hit them full speed and that was a mistake. LSR did say that it wouldnt handle that very well and they were dead on.

Like I said, I havent ridden in a +6 kit but they are just a bit too wide for what I needed and Im not planning on doing any major engine mods so its PERFECT for what I need. Im very happy with it and would recommend it to anyone looking for a much smoother ride but doesnt want to get to crazy or wide.

We have sold a few of the 3" kits, one guy who kept the stock shocks for now and another who went with the fox's that are specific for the 4 seater. We used the LSR axles with both kits, no need for the gorillas... Both guys loved it, better handling, little more travel, no broken parts!!

We do have the 3 LSR in stock.

SDHQ_
What's the installed price with the fox shocks? How about with Bilstiens?
Thanks

Yeah, What he said...

The powdercoated kit install w/ Fox's normally runs 4575 installed... We will do a GD special on the last 2 kits we have in stock (bothe silver) $4200 w/ Fox.

We do not stock the Bilstein shocks for the rhino.

How much for the kit with no shocks, and unisntalled?

Just FYI, LSR racing does NOT recommend using the Fox shocks. they recommend Elka or Bilstein according to Greg at LSR. He has posted why on here a few times. PM him for more info...

You can get the Elka piggy backs and the powdercoated kit for $3900 from ATVGALAXY on ebay. Thats where I got mine.

The kit only is $2000

That is because they do not carry Fox.

Wrong, its has to do with Fox not putting some stopper on the shock or something like that. I will find the post and let everyone read what LONE STAR recommneds for their kit.


EDIT: Greg has mentioned that King shocks are not recommended for their kit... but from what I understand and I could be wrong Fox and Kings are the same

Here is the post...

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....t&p=2065978

Foxs work great with the kit! Also FYI with the first run of the LSR 6.5" system their rear arm was not correct and if you did not install a limit strap in the rear the axle would hit the arm at close to full extension. Not many shops caught that nor did LSR contact us with that info...

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And Fox and Kings are not the same...

Then I stand corrected...

Greg has worked with Bilstein and Elka to ensure the shocks are dialed in perfect..... The Bilsteins actually have more travel over the Elkas when used with his MTS kit ...... He claims to have the Bilsteins dialed in perfect ..... I am not a fan of Fox Shocks when it comes to the Rhino ....... He is working with King but hasnt got them dialed in yet .......

Am I the only one with this kit out there? Anybody else?

Check the BRP forums to see if there is anyone on there that has it.

I did this same post over on BRP ..... I will post the results over here once I get them .... so far no response .... I know of 1 guy over there that got the kit .... he is putting it on a 2007 .... he just installed the kit but the rest of his Rhino is not ready yet..... Hopefully in the next few weeks he will get the other mods completed and he will be ready for testing ..... I figured there were more people out there with this kit ......

Derwud .... I might have to bite the bullet and be the guiena pig ..... Deuce has the kit with the Elkas .... I might have to test out the Bilsteins .....

Deuce - Who did your install?

Deuce did it himself .......

If I was to get one ......I would like to find someone local (So Cal) to buy the kit and do the installation....

Ratcatcher is my brother in law and he is the brains behind getting this thing installed. I helped but without him i would of had to take it to a shop.

I would need to find an installer also. Seems no one wants to mess with re-installing the CV's though?

Honestly, it gets a little dirty but once you figure the first one out they arent all that hard to do. Just annoying... if you have three people to help you would be GOLDEN!!!

If I had 103 helpers, I don't think I could do it. Just don't have a clue. Probably end up drinking way too much beer and screw the Rhino up for good, wishing I would have just paid someone. Really want to go with some sort of long travel, mostly for stability, but didn't want to spend the $5,500 it will take for a kit with axles.

Hmmmm. The SDHQ deal seems pretty good. Did we ever determine if the Fox shocks will work?

The Fox Shocks might work ..... but the Bilsteins and Elkas have been dialed in specifically for this kit .... by the package together to ensure the shocks are right for the kit .....

Nobody else has this kit???? Is Deuce the only one???? There is 1 guy over on the BRP Forum so that makes 2 people ..... there has to be more than that ..... Anyone??

so it sounds like SDHQ knows more about the LSR kit than they do.........

I should have mine Friday? im going to install it this weekend if all goes as planned. but im going out until the following weekend. i'll let you know then.

hehehehe.... im so exited.... like a kid in a candy store! "a really expensive candy store!"

how so??

how much do they charge to do the install??

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I won't say that... I can say that our shop takes pride in the products that we sell and our installation/fab, so we do go the extra bit and make sure everything is perfect. We started working with Fox for a shock for the LSR LT kit back in August. way before most. That is when we saw the drawings from Lonestar and decided that since they are coming to the market with a suspension with the correct shock motion we were just going to stick with our race suspension and not make a system of our own other than our race system. Up to that point every mfg of these kits were and most still are keeping the upper front shock mounts in the stock location.

Not quite the same as our race one but you do get the idea :

In my shops experience the Fox stock replacement shocks have worked great w/ their 3" kit.

DAMN.... Those shock towers are SICK!!

$4200 installed. Not sure on the seperate costs of the kit, shocks, install, etc.

You dont mean the fox stock replacement shocks right out of the box do you? Hopefully you are having them revalved and they will need heavier springs ....... I am sure that is what you meant...... There is no way that the Fox Shocks will work with this kit right out of the box ......

That pic is our system not the LSR kit... Those are a coil over air shock

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I won't say that... I can say that our shop takes pride in the products that we sell and our installation/fab, so we do go the extra bit and make sure everything is perfect. We started working with Fox for a shock for the LSR LT kit back in August. way before most. That is when we saw the drawings from Lonestar and decided that since they are coming to the market with a suspension with the correct shock motion we were just going to stick with our race suspension and not make a system of our own other than our race system. Up to that point every mfg of these kits were and most still are keeping the upper front shock mounts in the stock location.

Not quite the same as our race one but you do get the idea :

In my shops experience the Fox stock replacement shocks have worked great w/ their 3" kit.
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You dont mean the fox stock replacement shocks right out of the box do you? Hopefully you are having them revalved and they will need heavier springs ....... I am sure that is what you meant...... There is no way that the Fox Shocks will work with this kit right out of the box ......
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That pic is our system not the LSR kit... Those are a coil over air shock
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Yeah I knew that .... I am talking about the last sentence in your post ....

In my shops experience the Fox stock replacement shocks have worked great w/ their 3" kit.
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We have manufactured about 40 or so of these MTS kits so far. I just talked to a guy yesterday that purchased a kit from us, that he will get next week that is on this board. I don't recall his screen name though.

When we first tested the bilstein shocks that were set up for a stock suspension (we had to start somewhere) they were actually very close to the final set up we are selling now. The spring rates were up'ed a bit, as well as the valving a little stiffer to handle the extra leverage. I was actually impressed at how much we didn't have to change the shocks. Same with the Elkas. We only sent them back to canada once, and after they made some minor changes, they worked awesome. So i would say most people might be able to get away with not even changing the shocks depending on thier needs. If you are going to push the rhino and want the performance it's capable of having, you will want them set up to handle the extra leverage. But the changes aren't drastic.

Just so you all know, the first few runs we did, the factory wheels would just barely rub the suspension at its full movements. But all kits manufactured from now on, will work with the factory wheels, both steel, and aluminum versions.

Most people that are buying this kit have width restrictions. But its kind of sad, because everyone that has ridden in my car were totally blown away at how well it handles. I can drive the car through the woops near glamis store with no hands on the steering wheel... that is how stable the car is. It really is impressive. I wasn't expecting much from the kit from the beginging when first driving it, but it really does very well in 95% of the situations you will face. The only drawbacks it has (with our current shock specs) is you can't get really big air, and handle the huge woops at 40 mph and up. One could always stiffen the shocks to handle the big air, but you will sacrafice ride quality.

Running around with the car at Sycamore creek, and 4 peaks, and near Saguaro lake, there isn't much the car can't handle at full speed. When we were doing a test with a guy that had driven stock rhinos, and wasn't impressed by them, he was worried because he knew he was hooked. He is a die hard quad guy, and he didn't even take the quad out of his truck. He was having too much fun driving the rhino.

I think if you aren't planning on doing any motor mods, this suspension kit is the perfect fit for the rhino. Once you get into the XTR kit, or the 6" wider kits, they really beg for more power and speed.

OK.. so there is my sales pitch for the day.. but honestly, i wouldn't say it was great, if it wasn't. My a$$ is on the line, and it all falls back into my seat at the end of the day, so i am very confident in all of our products we produce.

I can't wait to get my car back and get back out there! I am going through withdrawls...

Greg

Okay Peeps - I just bit the bullet.
Talked to Tim over at PDS and he is now a dealer for Lonestar. Ordered up my +3 kit with the Bilsteins.
I won't mention the price because I am having a ton of other work done (4 seat cage, seats, bumpers, sheave, etc) and feel like Tim gave me a GREAT deal. Let's just say it's about 2k cheaper than most other long travel kits out there. My Rhino will mostly be used in Havasu with the wifey and kids. No major jumping or big whoop sections, so this should work perfectly.

If you are in So Cal and need work done, give Tim a call. I've made numerous changes to my build and he's been great to work with.

Props To PDS for partnering with Lonestar.

Big Props to Tim....

Hey Risky Biz, post some pictures as soon as you can...

Greg I think you are talking about me. Justin from Bakersfield I want to say that Greg has been very helpful has always picked up the phone when I call with question even about what tires and wheels to run wit hthis kit. I want to thank you greg for all of your help. Very nice guy easy to deal with bought my MTS kit right from greg whn I talked to him. Thank you again

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Greg I think you are talking about me. Justin from Bakersfield I want to say that Greg has been very helpful has always picked up the phone when I call with question even about what tires and wheels to run wit hthis kit. I want to thank you greg for all of your help. Very nice guy easy to deal with bought my MTS kit right from greg whn I talked to him. Thank you again
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I have to agree ..... I havent bought a kit yet but I have bugged Greg with lots of questions and he has been real good and real honest with me ..... even though some of my questions probably sounded stupid, he didnt treat me like they were stupid ...... he is a good honest guy ......

Im not sure if I am way off on this one, but dont the stock rhino shocks work with the LSR 3 over kit? So theres not really any reason why a stock replacement shock wouldnt work right?

Will do...... Cage, seats, wheels, etc. should be done next week, but still a couple weeks out on the LSR kit.
I'm not picking it up until PDS has finished with the suspension, so maybe Tim could post some pics. I'd sure like to see it!

Greg

This kit your talking about on your car is it the 3 inch or 6 inch kit?A buddy and I just ordered 2 of the 3 inch kits with bilsteins, 6 weeks is going to be a long time to wait.




Most people that are buying this kit have width restrictions. But its kind of sad, because everyone that has ridden in my car were totally blown away at how well it handles. I can drive the car through the woops near glamis store with no hands on the steering wheel... that is how stable the car is. It really is impressive. I wasn't expecting much from the kit from the beginging when first driving it, but it really does very well in 95% of the situations you will face. The only drawbacks it has (with our current shock specs) is you can't get really big air, and handle the huge woops at 40 mph and up. One could always stiffen the shocks to handle the big air, but you will sacrafice ride quality.

The stock length shocks will work, as do most of the aftermarket ones that are a little bit longer than stock, but still fit the stock a-arms.

You could even use the stock shocks if you really had to. We used them to just roll the car around in the shop. But i could stand on the rear bumper (with 4 seat cage, and rear bench seat, i weigh 150lbs) and i could bottom out the rear suspension by jumping up and down on it. So they are too soft to really be able to use it.


King of Bling.. i was refering to my car with the +3 kit.. everyone was very impressed at how well it works. Its a good balance for the stock engine, as long as you don't want a mini trophy truck, its a great kit.