Full Version: How Chinese Is This?
You have something against Chinese? 
Ryan ..... I already made that mistake .... 
I think he meant to say .... how made in China is this .......
I think he meant to say .... how made in China is this .......
It's sure RED!!!!
Looks to be built better than a SCF Rhino.
I'm gonna get flamed but here goes.....comes with a winch, has a real alternator instead of a stator, 4 wheel discs. Ditch the granny basket and the goofy pushbar, put some decent seats in it and inspect the welds, maybe add more tubes where they're needed?????????
QUOTE(WOTM @ Jan 16 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]2079727[/snapback]
You have something against Chinese?
Actually I do, my best friend Gary married a beautiful chinese girl and now I rarely ever see him.
Really Chinese?
So Chinese he is in Hong Kong with her right now and trying to score me some fake Rolex watches!
QUOTE(Mr. Off-Road @ Jan 16 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]2080009[/snapback]
QUOTE(WOTM @ Jan 16 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]2079727[/snapback]
You have something against Chinese?
Actually I do, my best friend Gary married a beautiful chinese girl and now I rarely ever see him.
Nice back peddle.
QUOTE(ChuckZilla @ Jan 16 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]2079879[/snapback]
I'm gonna get flamed but here goes.....comes with a winch, has a real alternator instead of a stator, 4 wheel discs. Ditch the granny basket and the goofy pushbar, put some decent seats in it and inspect the welds, maybe add more tubes where they're needed?????????
agreed????? honda power?
Nice Side by Side.
so from what I am seeing this vehicle doesnt appear to be a poorly made and imported from China off-road vehicle... is that the general consensus?
What engine in it?
WOW....website says on sale for $5k...
Motor looks like a Toyota 22r copy....a little smaller.
Ergos and center of gravity look MUCH safer than a Rhino...
Motor looks like a Toyota 22r copy....a little smaller.
Ergos and center of gravity look MUCH safer than a Rhino...
QUOTE(Mr. Off-Road @ Jan 17 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]2080889[/snapback]
so from what I am seeing this vehicle doesnt appear to be a poorly made and imported from China off-road vehicle... is that the general consensus?
aside from some cross bracing behing the passenger compartment it looks ok to me. can the chasis really be any worse than a rhino?
QUOTE(socaldmax @ Jan 17 2007, 10:07 AM) [snapback]2080890[/snapback]
What engine in it?
It's hard to tell, I downloaded the engine manual PDF but still couldn't figurr it out.
I think I just discovered that at least its engines origin is from the far east.
Here is the translation of the engines owners manual from the website. After reading it I could only imagine how satisfied I would be with its reliability.
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Here is the translation of the engines owners manual from the website. After reading it I could only imagine how satisfied I would be with its reliability.
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It looks to be built better than a stock Rhino, has a 4 speed tranny rather than a CVT and is only $6000.
By the time someone bought a stock Rhino, added lights, real 4 or 5 point harnesses, nice rims and tires, and painted it, they'd be into it for $17-20K.
This is a lot closer to the finished product, with a bigger engine, for $6K.
Sounds like a deal to me at 1/3 of $18K!
By the time someone bought a stock Rhino, added lights, real 4 or 5 point harnesses, nice rims and tires, and painted it, they'd be into it for $17-20K.
This is a lot closer to the finished product, with a bigger engine, for $6K.
Sounds like a deal to me at 1/3 of $18K!
QUOTE(socaldmax @ Jan 17 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]2080932[/snapback]
It looks to be built better than a stock Rhino, has a 4 speed tranny rather than a CVT and is only $6000.
By the time someone bought a stock Rhino, added lights, real 4 or 5 point harnesses, nice rims and tires, and painted it, they'd be into it for $17-20K.
This is a lot closer to the finished product, with a bigger engine, for $6K.
Sounds like a deal to me at 1/3 of $18K!
Yes, even the new Polaris RZR doesnt have as much cargo capacity as this vehicle. They might have the same size engine but this one does have a manual transmission! Plus you cant beat the price with a stick, its so affordable! Even comes with side panels and you can get an option for a turbo!
As with any of the Import ROC buggies, dirt bikes and mopeds...
The problem comes in when something breaks.
This however being a large vehicle...you could fab stuff and make it work. Unlike some small pit bike.
The problem comes in when something breaks.
This however being a large vehicle...you could fab stuff and make it work. Unlike some small pit bike.
It looks like it was built by Sum Yung Guy.
The engine is based on a suzuki fb8. The biggest problem with those buggies is the cv's break after about a hour of use.
CV's....hmm....The Axle looks VERY thin.
do you get a fortune cookie?????
5 14 23 11 9
frame repairs are in your future (as well as no parts)
5 14 23 11 9
frame repairs are in your future (as well as no parts)
At only 950 lbs. it has me a little leary. Whats the chassis made out of? Muffler tubing?
There are a lot of VW powered rails that were advertised as being lighter than that. Light weight used to be what guys argued about at the fire, with the argument usually ending with the guy and his son picking up the rail and walking off.
Well its definitely built better than a Sand Candy Sand Rail. 
QUOTE(Mr. Off-Road @ Jan 17 2007, 02:06 PM) [snapback]2081399[/snapback]
Well its definitely built better than a Sand Candy Sand Rail.
didn't you mean candy ass sand rail???
I got the Joyner version of these. It looks as if it is a knock off of the Joyner 800cc. If you dune one of these you would be surprised as to how well they handle. Joyner has a 3 cylinder Isuzu motor in it with a turbo kit great bang for the buck. You don't have to worry about rolling it like a rhino the center of gravity is low.
Problems with Chinese dune buggies (Venon, Joyner and the like)
- Cheapo bolts, when you torque them the heads snap off
- Low strength steel tubing
- Engines are usually fork lift or small industrial truck origin, low revving amd very slow
Do not believe any claims about Honda, Toyota etc they are NOT true
- Long wait for spare parts or may be non-existant
- May not be be CARB legal in CA which means you cant even get a green sticker
Many are also not legal DOT imports which is big trouble
- Break down but that is a relative issue.
- Heavy for engine size due to heavy tubing and cheapo components
Heavy does not necessarily equate to strong
They look good.
- Cheapo bolts, when you torque them the heads snap off
- Low strength steel tubing
- Engines are usually fork lift or small industrial truck origin, low revving amd very slow
Do not believe any claims about Honda, Toyota etc they are NOT true
- Long wait for spare parts or may be non-existant
- May not be be CARB legal in CA which means you cant even get a green sticker
Many are also not legal DOT imports which is big trouble
- Break down but that is a relative issue.
- Heavy for engine size due to heavy tubing and cheapo components
Heavy does not necessarily equate to strong
They look good.
Reminds me that rhyme the girls used to jumprope to.
"Ching Ching Chinaman sitting on fence, trying to make a buggy outta fifteen cents"
"Ching Ching Chinaman sitting on fence, trying to make a buggy outta fifteen cents"
....friggn Bohica man...
The joyner is a much better product. The new engine is a 3 cyclinder 800cc FI with dohc 12v . It is designed in Austria and is used in fiat's as well as the Chinesse Chery vehicle brand. They can be purchased at auction for about 7k. Joyner USA does a good job with stocking parts.
QUOTE(Bohica @ Jan 17 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]2081511[/snapback]
Reminds me that rhyme the girls used to jumprope to.
"Ching Ching Chinaman sitting on fence, trying to make a buggy outta fifteen cents"
QUOTE(Bohica @ Jan 17 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]2081511[/snapback]
Reminds me that rhyme the girls used to jumprope to.
"Ching Ching Chinaman sitting on fence, trying to make a buggy outta fifteen cents"
i just peed my pants a little
To support the idea that this cart is Chinese did you also come across any pictures of black kids on brand new Cannondale Mountain bikes?
Gee, sound familier MR. OFF ROAD?
Gee, sound familier MR. OFF ROAD?
QUOTE(richard cheese @ Jan 17 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]2081373[/snapback]
do you get a fortune cookie?????
5 14 23 11 9
frame repairs are in your future (as well as no parts)
now thats funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QUOTE(Mr. Off-Road @ Jan 16 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]2079701[/snapback]
michael, believe it or not i have been seriously considering getting timmy one of these . after he broke both of his arms i am uneasy about letting him get back on his quad . does this mean your gonna make fun of me . lol tim
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QUOTE(Mr. Off-Road @ Jan 16 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]2079701[/snapback]
michael, believe it or not i have been seriously considering getting timmy one of these . after he broke both of his arms i am uneasy about letting him get back on his quad . does this mean your gonna make fun of me . lol tim
Hey the price is right! It would appear it is a better car than the Joyner... I would sure like to see one in person (even if it is from taiwan or china).
Has anyone seen these in person? I was thinking about getting one for my son. I would need to move the seat up and forward so he could drive it.
QUOTE(dunitic @ Jan 18 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]2082695[/snapback]
Has anyone seen these in person? I was thinking about getting one for my son. I would need to move the seat up and forward so he could drive it.
dunitic , why dont you buy one for your son , then tell me how it works out , then i will not be wasting my money if it does not work out. can you say guinea pig? lol
Here is a post a friend of mine wrote from another forum in regards to these types of vehicles
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Hey all, ... If you want the best and really the only no BS info on Chinese buggies go to buggynews.com. I am a moderator there, but am in no way trying to promote the site. A rhino and a buggy are two different rides. BuggyNews is mainly focused on the around 3K minibuggies, but the manufacturers keep making them bigger. I am not sure if the larger 800cc will go straight up Olds or not, but I saw one on top last time I was out there. That does not mean much as I have had my 250 up there many times. Just have to work my way around the side. They are honestly a blast. I bought mine instead of purchasing a Golf Cart. Way more fun in my opinion. Only a few of the negatives posted are really true. Things like they are heavier than they need to be because the chinese steel is weaker than ours so they make it thicker. In two years I have twisted off 2 bolts in the cage. There are a lot of positives though. They are inexpensive. The smaller engines 150/250 are bullet proof. Rarely read about anyone having any problems. Do your research. There are a lot of crap brands out there. Don't buy off ebay. Those are all crap. If you go on the site make sure you know what you are reading as most on there have modded theirs and when you start changing things you are bound to have issues. So don't read the problem section and think they break down a lot without the whole story. Basically the same thing as anyone would see on a Rhino site. I have a Rhino and a buggy and I am not getting rid of either one. Sorry to ramble. Just wanted to help get good info out there. Don't let the Thunderinc site prices scare you. You can get them a lot cheaper than posted. Thousands
QUOTE(socaldmax @ Jan 17 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]2081392[/snapback]
There are a lot of VW powered rails that were advertised as being lighter than that. Light weight used to be what guys argued about at the fire, with the argument usually ending with the guy and his son picking up the rail and walking off.
OMG! That was just hillarious. I got a headache from laughing so hard. Thanks man!
It is built by Roketa out of china. I had one for 6 months and it was alot of fun and had a top speed of 60 mph. It was great in the whoops went everywhere a rhino went and handled extremely well. It also was carburated, but climbed every hill in Dove Springs without a problem. It was not quick at all, it was VERY sluggish out of the hole. It didn't do that well in the sand because of power issues but once it got up to speed it was fine. I did have a few problems. It always had electrical problems from fuses to ingnition to lighting the shop I bought it from took it back to manufacturer in Ontario, Ca 3 times and they always said nothing was wrong. It always leaked oil and it needs a good skid plate.
It is a great starter vehicle but needs to have kinks worked out by manufacturer. I bought mine to get in the sport and am upgrading to a king sand car.
It is a great starter vehicle but needs to have kinks worked out by manufacturer. I bought mine to get in the sport and am upgrading to a king sand car.
QUOTE(shanbo44 @ Jan 18 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]2084527[/snapback]
It is built by Roketa out of china. I had one for 6 months and it was alot of fun and had a top speed of 60 mph. It was great in the whoops went everywhere a rhino went and handled extremely well. It also was carburated, but climbed every hill in Dove Springs without a problem. It was not quick at all, it was VERY sluggish out of the hole. It didn't do that well in the sand because of power issues but once it got up to speed it was fine. I did have a few problems. It always had electrical problems from fuses to ingnition to lighting the shop I bought it from took it back to manufacturer in Ontario, Ca 3 times and they always said nothing was wrong. It always leaked oil and it needs a good skid plate.
It is a great starter vehicle but needs to have kinks worked out by manufacturer. I bought mine to get in the sport and am upgrading to a king sand car.
thats a big upgrade , i have ridden with quite a few king sandcars they are great machines , i know you will like it . tim
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QUOTE(shanbo44 @ Jan 18 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]2084527[/snapback]
It is built by Roketa out of china. I had one for 6 months and it was alot of fun and had a top speed of 60 mph. It was great in the whoops went everywhere a rhino went and handled extremely well. It also was carburated, but climbed every hill in Dove Springs without a problem. It was not quick at all, it was VERY sluggish out of the hole. It didn't do that well in the sand because of power issues but once it got up to speed it was fine. I did have a few problems. It always had electrical problems from fuses to ingnition to lighting the shop I bought it from took it back to manufacturer in Ontario, Ca 3 times and they always said nothing was wrong. It always leaked oil and it needs a good skid plate.
It is a great starter vehicle but needs to have kinks worked out by manufacturer. I bought mine to get in the sport and am upgrading to a king sand car.
thats a big upgrade , i have ridden with quite a few king sandcars they are great machines , i know you will like it . tim
Huge upgrade but, from what I keep hearing it is definatly worth it.
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