drjchase Posted August 26, 2021 Member ID: 1,412 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 2 Achievement Points: 27 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/26/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 22 Device: iPhone Share Posted August 26, 2021 Any opinions on the keystone Raptor might buy a new one. Looks like the quality is pretty good to the other stuff I see up here in Mn but want to hear what everyone thinks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunin Posted August 26, 2021 Member ID: 138 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 180 Achievement Points: 2,631 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9 Device: Android Share Posted August 26, 2021 New? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjchase Posted August 26, 2021 Member ID: 1,412 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 2 Achievement Points: 27 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/26/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 22 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 Found a 21 new for a decent price17% below the next cheapest and about 25% of sticker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunin Posted August 26, 2021 Member ID: 138 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 180 Achievement Points: 2,631 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9 Device: Android Share Posted August 26, 2021 Though lots of people are, and HeadInjury will probably say I'm wrong...lol, I would not buy one manufactured during the last 18 months since this all started. Too many horror stories online about very poorly built units literally coming apart at the seams. If it's a "2021" though, it may have been built in 2019 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunin Posted August 26, 2021 Member ID: 138 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 180 Achievement Points: 2,631 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9 Device: Android Share Posted August 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, drjchase said: Found a 21 new for a decent price17% below the next cheapest and about 25% of sticker. Oh. Wait. 25% OF STICKER?? Buy that bad boy! For 75% OFF, you can fix an awful lot! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjchase Posted August 27, 2021 Member ID: 1,412 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 2 Achievement Points: 27 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/26/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 22 Device: iPhone Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 smart bottom LOL!!! Your right 25% discount. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunin Posted August 27, 2021 Member ID: 138 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 180 Achievement Points: 2,631 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9 Device: Android Share Posted August 27, 2021 Did spell check really change smart ASS to smart bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunin Posted August 27, 2021 Member ID: 138 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 180 Achievement Points: 2,631 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9 Device: Android Share Posted August 27, 2021 No, looks like that was you...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunin Posted August 27, 2021 Member ID: 138 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 180 Achievement Points: 2,631 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9 Device: Android Share Posted August 27, 2021 And I know someone was talking about how great her unit is and blah blah blah - there isn't one manufacturer I don't see mentioned in the "oh crap, never even got to camp once and my unit is totaled" category... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezl Posted September 4, 2021 Member ID: 1,440 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 1 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 13, 2023 Device: iPhone Share Posted September 4, 2021 Bought a 2021 423 and sold it 4 months later, the quality is an absolute joke on newer units. Walls were falling apart, a window completely fell out driving down the road etc. Their warranty is a joke. I would buy an older unit personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEADINJURY Posted September 4, 2021 Member ID: 583 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 662 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 728 Achievement Points: 5,979 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/06/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 03:00 AM Birthday: 07/30/1920 Device: iPhone Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) Most RV's are built the same. With very few exceptions. The exceptions are NOT CHEAP. You do get what you pay for in this industry. From my experience and my personal opinion based on quality of components used, background of the manufacturer and lastly fit and finish. Most RV's fit and finish are pretty much the same they've been for me in the last 20 years. The pandemic did not change the quality, but are almost virtually impossible to complete because of lack of parts and work force. Get the RV that makes you happy! Don't care what others will think, unless that's a concern to you. Buy as big as you can afford. Don't fall victim to the 3' rule. 3 years into it you want 3 more feet plus to accommodate you. Lastly, this not a ROI in the form of CASH. The return on investment is the memories and heart aches that go along with the RV lifestyle. YOU NEED 2 THNGS TO OWN AN RV.... A Tool Box and a sense of humor. Good luck and enjoy!! Edited September 4, 2021 by HEADINJURY 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamis44 Posted September 4, 2021 Member ID: 452 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 37 Achievement Points: 338 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted September 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, HEADINJURY said: Most RV's are built the same. With very few exceptions. The exceptions are NOT CHEAP. You do get what you pay for in this industry. From my experience and my personal opinion based on quality of components used, background of the manufacturer and lastly fit and finish. Most RV's fit and finish are pretty much the same they've been for me in the last 20 years. The pandemic did not change the quality, but are almost virtually impossible to complete because of lack of parts and work force. Get the RV that makes you happy! Don't care what others will think, unless that's a concern to you. Buy as big as you can afford. Don't fall victim to the 3' rule. 3 years into it you want 3 more feet plus to accommodate you. Lastly, this not a ROI in the form of CASH. The return on investment is the memories and heart aches that go along with the RV lifestyle. YOU NEED 2 THNGS TO OWN AN RV.... A Tool Box and a sense of humor. Good luck and enjoy!! 100%. I have owned many, tow behind, 5th wheel, Class C and Class A. All of them have the same issues. You are driving a house down the freeway and off road. It will have issues. Give it a good look over and prepare to fix yourself. If you like the floorplan, and it fits your budget, buy it...... They are all nice pieces of junk at the end of the day....lol.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor J Alper Posted September 5, 2021 Member ID: 11 Group: Site Sponsor Followers: 2 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1,594 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 1,282 Achievement Points: 11,346 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/30/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 58 minutes ago Birthday: 04/02/1975 Device: Windows Site Sponsor Share Posted September 5, 2021 Being a 13 foot garage the Resale is just not going to be there, very limited buyers, If you can get a used one that is what i would do, a new one will depreciate pretty heavy on this model, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Machnach Posted September 5, 2021 Member ID: 962 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 189 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 107 Achievement Points: 1,212 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/21/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Device: Macintosh Share Posted September 5, 2021 would almost never by a new one...like L Alper just mentioned thay depreciate like crazy...picked up a 2014 in 2016 for 42,000 from original owner with 125 hours on generator and it was like 68,000 new I seen he paid.idk what problems he had but I have had zero issues with it and still going strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondajimz Posted September 5, 2021 Member ID: 462 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 681 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 752 Achievement Points: 5,713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/06/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Windows Share Posted September 5, 2021 Talk about depreciation. My buddy bought a Newmar King Aire for under 200k. The original owner paid 1mil + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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