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18 hours ago, Rockwood said:

Gas, 1/2 ton. Ram or Ford right now. If just your usual flatbed with quads, tent and a cooler: 2.7 Ford ecoboost has plenty of power, especially with the 10 speed. Chevy cylinder deactivation AND DI is going to be problems eventually, either from gummed up intake ports or lost cylinder deactivation lifters. Ford added port injection to solve the gumming, Ram 1500 is still port injection and their cylinder deactivation is a little more robust. Hemi has exhaust manifold issues, but at least that doesn’t take the motor with it.

Ford “ecoboost” is eco or boost though. Drive it like a grandpa, good mpg. Use the turbos, terrible mpg. 

I have a 3.5 in my '19 F150. Commuting to work I average 24mpg. We did a round trip from Norco to Vegas to Havasu and back home Saturday and I was @ 23 with an average speed of 80mph. 

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44 minutes ago, Orange_R said:

I have a 3.5 in my '19 F150. Commuting to work I average 24mpg. We did a round trip from Norco to Vegas to Havasu and back home Saturday and I was @ 23 with an average speed of 80mph. 

Nice!

And by grandpa, I mean accelerating.  Cruising on the freeway, they're great.  Towing or leadfooting it...  Not so much :biggrin:

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Just now, Rockwood said:

Nice!

And by grandpa, I mean accelerating.  Cruising on the freeway, they're great.  Towing or leadfooting it...  Not so much :biggrin:

Towing does suck for sure. Doesn't matter if it's the boat or enclosed, it drops to 12. I may as well use the diesel at that point

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6 minutes ago, Orange_R said:

Towing does suck for sure. Doesn't matter if it's the boat or enclosed, it drops to 12. I may as well use the diesel at that point

Uses 87, has early 2000s diesel torque, but so quiet my buddy used to try to start his when it was running all the time. :biggrin:

Did yank his 24' race trailer around without issues.  3.5 mucho brazo.

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On 10/1/2021 at 7:32 PM, Bansh88 said:

My wife and I are throwing around the idea of a new/er truck.  

Currently, we have a 1500 that has been lovely.  We are considering a larger, possibly diesel truck.   

We do not have a specific need as far as heavy loads or trailers.  Just the idea of buying a truck for longevity, strength and potential for hauling larger cargo. 

As of now, we only haul a single axle open trailer for Glamis.  ZERO plans for a toy hauler or larger unit with big vehicles.   But would like the ability to pull a vehicle, trailer, equipment, if needed.  Especially with a move out of California always in the works.

Please. Pro's / Con's of gas vs diesel.  This could be my last truck purchase.  

I just jumped into a diesel for the first time. If I wasn't towing a 40ft pig I would still be gas. I towed it for ~3 years with a 02 GMC 8.1L gasser but the 5mpg towing on a 26gal tank was killing me, not to mention the extended cab vs crew cab and the boys don't fit in the back anymore, taking two cars anytime we drove it. It was time for a new truck either way. We still have the GMC, Evan is driving it until I get the Wrangler back on the road. Eric is now driving my 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 hemi with 210k miles on it... were it not for the big ass toy hauler I'd have another Dodge 1500 but 4wd this time, and consider that to be my last truck purchase ever.

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2018 Chevy 2500 HD/Duramax LTZ, before that was 2004.5 Chevy 2500 HD/Duramax LTZ and had 240,000 miles on it before selling in 2018.

I love the diesel and its my daily driver. I tow a 16' box trailer that probably weighs 4000 lbs loaded, but I don't mind having WAY more truck than I need.

BUT....There is a possibility down the road of going to a nice toy hauler, so I would want the truck I know can tow it.

To each there own. Honestly if I wasn't planning on going to a larger trailer down the road I would seriously consider the Toyota Tundra, but they get horrible mileage.

For me, once having the diesel, it would be hard to go back to a gasser especially a 1500...

I had a loaner for about a week when my truck was at the dealer for some warranty work...they gave me a new 1500 Silverado, I hated it!

Couldn't wait to get my truck back...plus I just love my truck!

None of this means a hill of beans to you, but it's just where I am coming from.

Oh and like stated earlier about prices...HOLY EFF BOMB!!

Took my wife's car to the dealer for an oil change and I was walking around the lot to see what was out there. There was a 2017 2500 HD Duramax LT, same color as mine, but only the LT so standard rims and I don't think had heated/cooling seats, or heated steering wheel, and some other things missing that don't come with the LTZ...well it was stickered at $68K.... :kenk: 

That is a year older than mine and USED, is stickered $2K higher than mine was brand new in 2018.  :simrak:

WTF?????

 

 

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FWIW, the 2022 Tundra is all new from the ground up. New twin turbo V6 with new 10 speed trans and coil spring rear suspension. The engine and trans have been used in other vehicles of course and all the SUVs have had coils for the last 30 years but I would steer clear of a first year vehicle from any maker, even Toyota. I don't think it would leave you stranded but small issues are bound to pop up. 

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4 hours ago, Fireballsocal said:

FWIW, the 2022 Tundra is all new from the ground up. New twin turbo V6 with new 10 speed trans and coil spring rear suspension. The engine and trans have been used in other vehicles of course and all the SUVs have had coils for the last 30 years but I would steer clear of a first year vehicle from any maker, even Toyota. I don't think it would leave you stranded but small issues are bound to pop up. 

Only bummer about the 22 Tundra is they left a couple square inches on the front not dedicated to grille…

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Really feel like they lost an opportunity to win the Grille Wars by not going with the concept:

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GM 2500HD with either the 6.0 or 6.6 gas, depending on if you’re looking at new or used. Or the F250 7.3 gas. Unless you have the actual need for diesel power, it’s not worth it. It’s a huge investment just to get that option that will take YEARS to even out when it comes to possible fuel economy gains. Not to mention the likely troubles with the overly excessive emissions systems down the road.

 

Also, given how long you tend to hold onto your vehicles, avoid turbo gas engines. The heat from the turbos literally cooks everything under the hood eventually.

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On 10/5/2021 at 3:52 PM, Fireballsocal said:

FWIW, the 2022 Tundra is all new from the ground up. New twin turbo V6 with new 10 speed trans and coil spring rear suspension. The engine and trans have been used in other vehicles of course and all the SUVs have had coils for the last 30 years but I would steer clear of a first year vehicle from any maker, even Toyota. I don't think it would leave you stranded but small issues are bound to pop up. 

The new Tundra in the hybrid would seem to be a good choice.   Lots of hp and tq. 

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