THD Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, Surf and Dune said: Can you site your sources? I think it will be very difficult to find "official"sources reporting side affects related to the jab due to suppression and or manipulated data by the Gov, Pharma, medical community, etc. I'm not sitting here wearing a tin foil hat while writing this. I am living it! As I have posted here before, my wife has an autoimmune disease, Lupus. She has been in remission for 25 yrs. and fortunately she hasn't had any symptoms during that period other than having to take thyroid meds, the condition killed her thyroid gland when she was young. Immediately after she got the jab last spring, her Lupus flared up again. I researched it and the info I found stated the jab can cause flare ups of autoimmune diseases, but claim it's temporary and encouraged those with autoimmune diseases to get the jab. Unfortunately, hers has not improved and continues to get worse, Her Rheumatologist told her he has seen a drastic increase of autoimmune flare ups due to the jab and does not agree with the stated claim that it is temporary. Many of his patients are progressing in their disease, at least so far. My main point in this is the info I researched does not appear, at least to us, to be even remotely accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf and Dune Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, SANDPSYCHO said: I would rather argue with the squirrels in my back yard then have a conversation with you. Have a good day. That's what I thought. Coward. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, THD said: I think it will be very difficult to find "official"sources reporting side affects related to the jab due to suppression and or manipulated data by the Gov, Pharma, medical community, etc. I'm not sitting here wearing a tin foil hat while writing this. I am living it! As I have posted here before, my wife has an autoimmune disease, Lupus. She has been in remission for 25 yrs. and fortunately she hasn't had any symptoms during that period other than having to take thyroid meds, the condition killed her thyroid gland when she was young. Immediately after she got the jab last spring, her Lupus flared up again. I researched it and the info I found stated the jab can cause flare ups of autoimmune diseases, but claim it's temporary and encouraged those with autoimmune diseases to get the jab. Unfortunately, hers has not improved and continues to get worse, Her Rheumatologist told her he has seen a drastic increase of autoimmune flare ups due to the jab and does not agree with the stated claim that it is temporary. Many of his patients are progressing in their disease, at least so far. My main point in this is the info I researched does not appear, at least to us, to be even remotely accurate. These are certainly the side effects of getting the jab or any flu shot. That sucks, my Dr asked me personally if I had this is the past before I got my shot, luckily I hadn't. Thank you for sharing a real life experience 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THD Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Surf and Dune said: That's what I thought. Coward. He's not a coward. He is in his backyard debating the squirrels with a hand full of nuts masturbating himself cuz he focking nuts! JK...trying to lighten it up a little. I agree with Sandpycho 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLD_OTZ Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, SANDPSYCHO said: As every socialist media source, Google, YouTube etc. remove everything that goes against the pro jab agenda, it's next to impossible to keep a list of sources that I can link for you. This is exactly why they sensor this information. If you don't trust me do your own research. If you want to be handed information without effort CNN will be happy provide that to you. I have dropped a crumb, follow it or ingnor it, the choice is yours. That's your answer? You have all these figures and statistics, and that is your answer, educate myself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BENCH Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Surf and Dune said: The percentages of people in ICUs around the country are over about 95% unvaccinated to less than 5% vaccinated . Source? Ever heard of the saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"? Edited October 7, 2021 by BENCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, BENCH said: Source? Ever heard of the saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"? See Covid Breakthrough Hospitalization and Death Rates by State - The New York Times (nytimes.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLatinLover Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) A friend from high school is a bio-engineer with 4 PhDs. He's a prodigy of sorts. He worked on the Pfizer vaccine. His wife is a molecular biologist with 3 PhDs. She also worked on the Pfizer vaccine. I've been in healthcare administration since my 2nd semester of college. I've established relationships with healthcare leaders in both the private and public sector. Surf and Dune is wrong on most of his claims/assessments. I choose the position of "My Body, My Choice." Edited October 7, 2021 by TheLatinLover 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceisback Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Campfire chats gunna be interesting this season!😢 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange_R Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, Cookie said: See Covid Breakthrough Hospitalization and Death Rates by State - The New York Times (nytimes.com) Considering the source, do we really know or trust that this is accurate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange_R Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TheLatinLover said: A friend from high school is a bio-engineer with 4 PhDs. He's a prodigy of sorts. He worked on the Pfizer vaccine. His wife is a molecular biologist with 3 PhDs. She also worked on the Pfizer vaccine. I've been in healthcare administration since my 2nd semester of college. I've established relationships with healthcare leaders in both the private and public sector. Surf and Dune is wrong on most of his claims/assessments. I choose the position of "My Body, My Choice." It's funny with all the FDA claims that this is approved as well, I work with the FDA all the time and NOTHING goes through like this did. We should still be in clinical trials right now. but NOPE. Edited October 7, 2021 by Orange_R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegitDuner Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 It's really not fair to ask to cite sources nowadays. I have personally bookmarked many articles only to go back and have them taken down. Anything youtube disagrees with they take down. Who owns YouTube? I remember a few months back I was looking for natural immunity articles on Google and they were only about how it doesn't work for covid. I went to a different browser and found what i needed. Did a specific search for the exact title of the page in Google and it said no results found. Any doctor that goes online and posts an article or video that enough people dislike gets pulled down immediately. Not because it's untrue but because people dislike it. And if you're going to call BS, then you haven't been paying attention to how much info has been deleted and suppressed on the internet. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Poule43 Posted October 7, 2021 Site Sponsor Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just an Observation .......... NEVER argue with an idiot.....The people watching won't know who is who. There are guys that troll the board and up on things they know will get tempers flairing and then try and sound so on the edge and smug with their comments. Its why I can't be a moderator ....... I would just hit delete on their profiles and never think about it again...... A douche is a douche.........even on gd.com ! I love to Surf AND I love to Dune........some how those two words written together make my skin crawl There are a few of them around here. The moderators need to assign "RESIDENT JACKAZZ" badges to their profiles that are visible to people so they don't take the bait..........It really drags the morale down with their chit head comments! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 30 minutes ago, Orange_R said: Considering the source, do we really know or trust that this is accurate? Sorry, I just googled and that came up..............NYtimes does suck, but a source is a source. Easy to find these numbers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realbadlarry Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Cookie said: Sorry, I just googled and that came up..............NYtimes does suck, but a source is a source. Easy to find these numbers They also posted the Russian Dossier didn't that... did that make it true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Realbadlarry said: They also posted the Russian Dossier didn't that... did that make it true? There is nothing true anymore, this thread proves that you can't stand on one side without the other side ridiculing. Such a sad state this board is becoming. Similar to Facebook. People of this board used to not treat each other like this............ He asked for a source, I spent ten seconds and posted it and you riducule.......so lame. Virtually every source is skewed now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDPSYCHO Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, WLD_OTZ said: That's your answer? You have all these figures and statistics, and that is your answer, educate myself? Yes, your complaint is with big tech that has been removing information on this subject since it started. You don't believe me, I don't care don't. You don't want to do your own research again I don't care. In 5 years well see who's right. I hope we're still around. I'll add this example. Since the old board is lost forever does that mean it didn't exist? Be cause it's gone everything that was posted on it isn't true. I have a ton of chit to do, I don't have time to try and find information that has been taken down by big tech. Edited October 7, 2021 by SANDPSYCHO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funco4lizzle Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 there is no truth available to us.. Trust nothing...question everything.. Just wish we could live our friggin lives how WE choose. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Dunes Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Lone Ranger said: No way no how is Texas going to turn Blue less Purple. Austin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Ranger Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Let's go Brandon! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Dunes Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 In order to have a valid opinion and hold an informed discussion about any topic, one must be well informed with the truth, the facts. A flat earther has an opinion, but it's invalid because it's a scientific fact that the earth is an oblate spheroid, not flat. This entire thread is filled with a lot of misinformation, or more accurately, disinformation. I blame the media, which is now nothing more than a source of propaganda, and the social media platforms such as FB, etc which are exploiting everyone's fears, likes, dislikes, political agendas, etc just for profit. The more they keep you engaged, the more money they make and the posts they use to do that are not fact checked. They're not trying to educate you, they're trying to profit off of your clicks and the amount of time you spend on there. I'm not even sure that the position Project Veritas espouses is about truth, possibly there's a political agenda behind their videos. That's not to say that the hidden camera discussions they posted are not true - I'm sure those Pfizer employees did say what they said, but is it the whole story? Is there an equally valid side they left out? I would recommend everyone vet their sources and make sure it's not just another fake source putting out fake info. The truth IS out there, you just have to be able to tell sh1t from shinola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpirE231 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Here's a source for beginners. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html what is comical... go to google and search "vaccine linked to My.." and it no longer gives you the google search recommendation..... c'mon now lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLatinLover Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, EmpirE231 said: Here's a source for beginners. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html what is comical... go to google and search "vaccine linked to My.." and it no longer gives you the google search recommendation..... c'mon now lol This is the primary reason I stopped using Google and now only use DuckDuckGo. Fvck Google right up their stretched out anuses. Cowards- many of their executives abandoned the US during the pandemic and lived on private islands. Edited October 7, 2021 by TheLatinLover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Shark Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Lone Ranger said: No way no how is Texas going to turn Blue less Purple. AZ said that and then look what happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Dunes Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, EmpirE231 said: Here's a source for beginners. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html what is comical... go to google and search "vaccine linked to My.." and it no longer gives you the google search recommendation..... c'mon now lol Google brings up that link as the first one on the top of the page. Search Modes All News Images Shopping Videos More Tools About 7,510,000 results (0.71 seconds) Search Results Featured snippet from the web Cases of myocarditis reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) have occurred: After mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), especially in male adolescents and young adults, More often after the second dose. Usually within several days after vaccination.Sep 8, 2021 Myocarditis and Pericarditis After mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination https://www.cdc.gov › 2019-ncov › vaccines › safety › m... Was this useful? Yes No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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