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Problem is these people aren’t moving because of the politics, they’re moving because of the high prices for everything and don’t make the connection between their voting and the destruction that ensues. 

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Some of us have moved because of politics, and didn't want what was happening.  I am a Ca to AZ transplant, but have absolutely no intent of bringing the CA crap with me!!  I didn't participate in or promote any of the CA crap anyway, just for the record!!

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The problem lies with a large percentage that are moving out of California are not involved in Voting or politics (probably because they feel it doesn't matter).  But the smaller percentage that are moving for financial reason are active in voting.  Moving to AZ and not participating in the election process is just as bad as voting for a democrat.  The liberals are more involved and vote.  Most of my Conservative friends (Before Trump) never voted................thus the reason this state (Ca) has become so one sided.

 

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24 minutes ago, Cookie said:

The problem lies with a large percentage that are moving out of California are not involved in Voting or politics (probably because they feel it doesn't matter).  But the smaller percentage that are moving for financial reason are active in voting.  Moving to AZ and not participating in the election process is just as bad as voting for a democrat.  The liberals are more involved and vote.  Most of my Conservative friends (Before Trump) never voted................thus the reason this state (Ca) has become so one sided.

 

I agree...easier for most to sit back and not do anything, rather than participate and be active!!  Complacency has bit us!

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7 minutes ago, 2dasand said:

I agree...easier for most to sit back and not do anything, rather than participate and be active!!  Complacency has bit us!

Agree with you and cookie but......after this last election debacle do you truly think our votes matter anymore?  With all the B.S. that was proven last election and the corruption on BOTH sides was pretty obvious.  the politicians are guna do what they want and the masses (sheeple) will follow. Maybe the bills and other little county level votes will matter but im still not convinced. 

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7 minutes ago, Doonit said:

Agree with you and cookie but......after this last election debacle do you truly think our votes matter anymore?  With all the B.S. that was proven last election and the corruption on BOTH sides was pretty obvious.  the politicians are guna do what they want and the masses (sheeple) will follow. Maybe the bills and other little county level votes will matter but im still not convinced. 

You can't let the process deter you.  Pelosi said the 2016 election was rigged when Trump won.  The point, the last couple of elections the loser has stated there is fraud.  This is our new norm, people cry foul when it doesn't go their way.  Conservatives need to keep voting and get more involve in every day politics even if you moved out of California.  Even local politics make a difference.

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The biggest problem is that half of the population spends more time deciding who they are going to put thru to the next round on the voice over who they are going to let make choices for them in DC.  Or  they pick them for stupid reasons like who they think is going to win because they don't want to vote for a looser

It is even worse at the local level where they have the biggest impact into your actual life.  There most people either vote for the guy who has been there or the party's candidate and some don't even know what side of the isle the candidate is from just that is the candidates sign they saw last before they voted and they liked there smile.

Everyone should vote no doubt about it, but you should make some effort into picking who you are voting for 

 

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16 minutes ago, Cookie said:

You can't let the process deter you.  Pelosi said the 2016 election was rigged when Trump won.  The point, the last couple of elections the loser has stated there is fraud.  This is our new norm, people cry foul when it doesn't go their way.  Conservatives need to keep voting and get more involve in every day politics even if you moved out of California.  Even local politics make a difference.

Thanx. Im a younger parent (35) and these past couple of elections have done exactly that "deterred" my wife and I. But I agree with you (not because I like your funco Honda combo) but we need to stay persistent and not be complacent. Im not a total dummy and I actually realize the president is simply a mask/puppet/billboard but frustrating regardless. 

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5 minutes ago, Cookie said:

You can't let the process deter you.  Pelosi said the 2016 election was rigged when Trump won.  The point, the last couple of elections the loser has stated there is fraud.  This is our new norm, people cry foul when it doesn't go their way.  Conservatives need to keep voting and get more involve in every day politics even if you moved out of California.  Even local politics make a difference.

This ^^^^

We just voted in a local election, mostly county level and school board positions. We searched the net for background on the school board candidates to try and learn their ideology before casting our votes. It did not take much effort to discover the progressive socialist from the traditional conservative candidates. The progressive candidates love to pronounce their wokeness to the world. 

Vote in your local elections, it will have more impact on your day to day life than most think. Especially school board positions that will have a major impact on our youth and what they are taught!

And I will add that what happened in the 2020 Presidential election was more than political rhetoric, there was some targeted effective shenanigans in a few states that drastically altered the outcome. And because it was targeted to a few locations that had a major impact, it gave the left plausible deniability in regards to "wide spread" voter fraud. Just my opinion. 

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27 minutes ago, THD said:

 

And I will add that what happened in the 2020 Presidential election was more than political rhetoric, there was some targeted effective shenanigans in a few states that drastically altered the outcome. And because it was targeted to a few locations that had a major impact, it gave the left plausible deniability in regards to "wide spread" voter fraud. Just my opinion. 

In 2016 Hillary was perceived correctly as a Biatch, Trump was a bully, Most people didn't mind a bully picking on a Biatch and the middle of the road voter voted Trump. The next four years the Left and some of the Right spent every waking moment pointing at Trump saying this guy is a tyrannical dictator who every time he opens his mouth is just embarrassing us on a national and world stage and every time Trump got in front of a camera he did his best to prove them right.

2020 rolls around and instead of Trump just quietly stating that the Pandemic is a hick-up and we will get back to where we were in no time at all.  He goes WWF royal rumble on Sleepy Joe in the first debate and takes those people who liked him beating up on a Biatch to screaming at their grandpa  which they didn't care for. All he had to do was debate him like he did the second time and we would be looking at this thru the Trump lens instead of the Biden one. He had nobody to blame but his ego and that was bigger than him.  There was no wide voter fraud it was just the American Idol voters feeling sorry for the old man who got bullied by Trump.

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I have been very busy moving people out of the state the last few years. In the past when we sold a house and moved a family out of state it was for a job transfer or retirement. Most of them lately have been selling in CA to move to a red state. 

Having that said the buyers have been young families that have previously been renting and now purchasing. The trend is definitely real. 

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It's very true that Many are leaving CA due to cost and not politics.  And they definitely take their politics with them.

And more importantly they have a serious cognitive defect in relating Progressive policies to outcomes they experienced in blue states, so they generally turn the state blue. 

Its easy to understand why this happens more now than ever - People never get to know their neighbors - they live isolated lives even before the pandemic ... With Social media and lack of most people  getting "integrated" into new neighborhoods,  and since there are no more "local" newspapers, the CA CNN watchers continue to watch CNN and really never get or understand the benefits of being in a Red state other than lower cost.  They are destined to destroy the values that they cannot  or are unwilling to understand.

 

 

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On 5/12/2021 at 11:16 AM, Wash 10 Crew said:

Why dont you see man buns in prison?

 

Because I'm the Barber! Peace

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Great question. Texas summers suck. Bounce around? I'm more of a home body. Peace

23 hours ago, HEADINJURY said:

Just the taxes in California warrant leaving. I can afford to stay or go...  Where to though?

 

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On 5/14/2021 at 5:09 PM, ChEFF said:

Great question. Texas summers suck. Bounce around? I'm more of a home body. Peace

 

Texas is great as long as you own a pool and work from home or only go out at night!

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After being born and bred in San Diego, I moved out of CA to OK in August 2020, was a very difficult decision, but I knew in order for me to eventually retire and have some sort of life after work I needed to leave CA. After being here for just a few months it has been the best decision. So many more freedoms and much nicer people in general. 

I left ALOT in CA, but it was a change that needed to happen.

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1 hour ago, Screamin Ian said:

After being born and bred in San Diego, I moved out of CA to OK in August 2020, was a very difficult decision, but I knew in order for me to eventually retire and have some sort of life after work I needed to leave CA. After being here for just a few months it has been the best decision. So many more freedoms and much nicer people in general. 

I left ALOT in CA, but it was a change that needed to happen.

I can't wait to write a post like this one! I X the days off the calander each and everyday! I am trying to make the best out of a hard situation.....It eats away at you like cancer! We have been driven to leave the best place in the USA to live out of here....IT SUCKS!

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We left ca due to politics mostly then cost of things second.Moved to az love it although i can still work at my old job which i do at times because they are understaffed and now my pay doubled when i work but ii will work wed through sat come home then 2 weeks later so the same.

 

I emjoy the less traffic and midweek lake trips,desert shooting too plus drive to glamis is only 10 miles more from my oc house but no more 91fwy or whitewater traffic going home.As for politics we vote red and registered to vote asap we dont want to see a ca again.

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On 5/12/2021 at 11:25 AM, BRANDON LONG said:

I have been very busy moving people out of the state the last few years. In the past when we sold a house and moved a family out of state it was for a job transfer or retirement. Most of them lately have been selling in CA to move to a red state. 

Having that said the buyers have been young families that have previously been renting and now purchasing. The trend is definitely real. 

Just curious Brandon, who are buying these houses in Cali? everybody says they are leaving Cali but someone has to be buying those houses.

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13 hours ago, DOGGY said:

Just curious Brandon, who are buying these houses in Cali? everybody says they are leaving Cali but someone has to be buying those houses.

The trend has been people with equity are selling and leaving the state. Often times paying cash or mostly cash. The people that are buying the homes have mostly been first time buyer or young families. With rents as high as they are and rates as low as they are it is much easier for a first time buyer that was renting to now purchase. Younger families that started off small are also taking their equity and upgrading to larger family homes. 

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