Funco4JM Posted April 2, 2022 Member ID: 203 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 135 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 60 Achievement Points: 990 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted April 2, 2022 Hey all, So tonight, I was looking at the car and it had a bit of gangsta lean to it. As I looked closer, my driver rear bag looks crooked. The bag perch doesn't look crooked to me, but something is a mis. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzrtrat1111 Posted April 2, 2022 Member ID: 670 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 84 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 88 Achievement Points: 609 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/07/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 31 minutes ago Birthday: 12/01/1979 Device: iPhone Share Posted April 2, 2022 Post a pic from the top. Looks like the bag is not sitting square in the top plate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funco4JM Posted April 2, 2022 Member ID: 203 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 135 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 60 Achievement Points: 990 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Dzrtrat1111 said: Post a pic from the top. Looks like the bag is not sitting square in the top plate. Here is a pic from the top. Its sitting flush against the plate. Maybe the plate is bent on the frame? Edited April 2, 2022 by Funco4JM add text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RK Racing Posted April 2, 2022 Member ID: 144 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 258 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 258 Achievement Points: 2,069 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 07:49 PM Device: iPhone Share Posted April 2, 2022 The bottom plate is either to the right or forward of the top plate. Sooooooo it looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted April 2, 2022 Member ID: 605 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 213 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 2,874 Content Per Day: 2.65 Reputation: 2,483 Achievement Points: 20,637 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/07/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Android Share Posted April 2, 2022 Did you check the wear on the bushing in the perch? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdirt Posted April 2, 2022 Member ID: 323 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 278 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 210 Achievement Points: 2,877 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Device: iPhone Share Posted April 2, 2022 6 hours ago, onanysunday said: Did you check the wear on the bushing in the perch? X2 looks like it’s leaning in the bushings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDBAM Posted April 2, 2022 Member ID: 349 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 203 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 128 Achievement Points: 2,199 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: iPhone Share Posted April 2, 2022 8 hours ago, onanysunday said: Did you check the wear on the bushing in the perch? 👆🏼This is the reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted April 2, 2022 Member ID: 485 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 624 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 584 Achievement Points: 3,833 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Android Share Posted April 2, 2022 You guys are a little bit late. That was yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funco4JM Posted April 4, 2022 Member ID: 203 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 135 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 60 Achievement Points: 990 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Sorry for the late reply. The bushings were replaced in October. So they only have about 20 dune days on them. I did have the perch gussets added at the same time. Maybe it was bent prior and the Fab guy just locked that in with gussets lol. maybe I’ll swap my passenger side perch and bag to the driver side and see if that fixes it. If so, then I know it’s either the bag or perch that is bent. If it doesn’t change anything then it’s either the trailing arm or upper mount. Something else I noticed is that the bag is losing air pressure. I put the rears at 40 and the passenger side is still at 40 but the driver side (issue side) is down to 28. Maybe the bag is just done for after 18 years of use? Edited April 4, 2022 by Funco4JM Added info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor J Alper Posted April 4, 2022 Member ID: 11 Group: Site Sponsor Followers: 2 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1,596 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 1,288 Achievement Points: 11,367 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/30/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 04/02/1975 Device: Windows Site Sponsor Share Posted April 4, 2022 A arm uniballs might be wipped out, they are not that big on these cars so the arm might be a little off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted April 4, 2022 Member ID: 318 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4,392 Content Per Day: 4.05 Reputation: 5,568 Achievement Points: 36,225 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 23 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 4 hours ago Device: iPhone Share Posted April 4, 2022 13 hours ago, J Alper said: A arm uniballs might be wipped out, they are not that big on these cars so the arm might be a little off Yeah, or if there's a heim anywhere, out of adjustment which will pivot the arm over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funco4JM Posted April 4, 2022 Member ID: 203 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 135 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 60 Achievement Points: 990 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 In October I had all new Uniballs in the arms replaced along with perch pivot bushings and bolts. Something I did not consider is I had the perch link removed and had Heim links fabbed for it. I still have my old Funco links, I wonder if that is out of adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted April 4, 2022 Member ID: 318 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4,392 Content Per Day: 4.05 Reputation: 5,568 Achievement Points: 36,225 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 23 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 4 hours ago Device: iPhone Share Posted April 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Funco4JM said: In October I had all new Uniballs in the arms replaced along with perch pivot bushings and bolts. Something I did not consider is I had the perch link removed and had Heim links fabbed for it. I still have my old Funco links, I wonder if that is out of adjustment. Dumb question: can the lower bag perch be installed backwards? It looks like it's asymmetrical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funco4JM Posted April 4, 2022 Member ID: 203 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 135 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 60 Achievement Points: 990 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Dumb question: can the lower bag perch be installed backwards? It looks like it's asymmetrical. It can't be installed backwards. The Heim/pivot would have no place to mount. Edited April 4, 2022 by Funco4JM spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor J Alper Posted April 5, 2022 Member ID: 11 Group: Site Sponsor Followers: 2 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1,596 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 1,288 Achievement Points: 11,367 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/30/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 04/02/1975 Device: Windows Site Sponsor Share Posted April 5, 2022 looking at the picture it looks like the trailing arm is over, looks like all the bag components are straight, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted April 5, 2022 Member ID: 605 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 213 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 2,874 Content Per Day: 2.65 Reputation: 2,483 Achievement Points: 20,637 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/07/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Android Share Posted April 5, 2022 There is a compressed dimension to set the squareness of the top of the perch to the plate on the frame. I now suffer from CRS and don't remember that dimension. Call Funco for it. Then remove the bag and check it. There are also ways to make that system much better. It is a failure point. Funco has also upgraded to heavier mounts on the frame. https://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index.php?/forums/topic/266-funco-gen-4-rear-suspension-tips-tricks-mods-and-upgrades/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted April 5, 2022 Member ID: 605 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 213 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 2,874 Content Per Day: 2.65 Reputation: 2,483 Achievement Points: 20,637 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/07/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Android Share Posted April 5, 2022 In this pic I had blocks of steel to set the length of the link bar. Gives you an idea what it looks like. You could do it with blocks of wood as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted April 5, 2022 Member ID: 605 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 213 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 2,874 Content Per Day: 2.65 Reputation: 2,483 Achievement Points: 20,637 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/07/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Android Share Posted April 5, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 5:56 PM, Funco4JM said: Sorry for the late reply. The bushings were replaced in October. So they only have about 20 dune days on them. I did have the perch gussets added at the same time. Maybe it was bent prior and the Fab guy just locked that in with gussets lol. maybe I’ll swap my passenger side perch and bag to the driver side and see if that fixes it. If so, then I know it’s either the bag or perch that is bent. If it doesn’t change anything then it’s either the trailing arm or upper mount. Something else I noticed is that the bag is losing air pressure. I put the rears at 40 and the passenger side is still at 40 but the driver side (issue side) is down to 28. Maybe the bag is just done for after 18 years of use? That upper plate has a gusset and is welded directly to the frame. No way that is the issue. Yes you should replace both bags. Check the fronts to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funco4JM Posted April 5, 2022 Member ID: 203 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 135 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 60 Achievement Points: 990 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, onanysunday said: That upper plate has a gusset and is welded directly to the frame. No way that is the issue. Yes you should replace both bags. Check the fronts to. Thank you sir, I will call Grant for the measurements and check that. Ill also get a couple new bags on the way. Update - Spoke to Grant, He says that the measurement to square up the upper bag mount and lower perch mount should be 3". If it is square at 3" then it should be fine as you'll see some deformation as the suspension cycles. He also said that the airbag will take the path of least resistance so it may be an old 18 year old bag that just needs to be replaced. Edited April 5, 2022 by Funco4JM Added Info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted April 5, 2022 Member ID: 605 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 213 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 2,874 Content Per Day: 2.65 Reputation: 2,483 Achievement Points: 20,637 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/07/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Android Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Funco4JM said: Thank you sir, I will call Grant for the measurements and check that. Ill also get a couple new bags on the way. Update - Spoke to Grant, He says that the measurement to square up the upper bag mount and lower perch mount should be 3". If it is square at 3" then it should be fine as you'll see some deformation as the suspension cycles. He also said that the airbag will take the path of least resistance so it may be an old 18 year old bag that just needs to be replaced. I was guessing 3 in looking at my two blocks of steel. One is 2 in and one is 1 in. That will tell you the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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