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America's Second Civil War Has Already Begun

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Attrition definition: : the act of weakening or exhausting by constant harassment, abuse, or attack.

Definition of acquiescence:  passive acceptance or submission : the act of acquiescing or the state of being acquiescent

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/03/americas_second_civil_war_has_already_begun.html

 

America's Second Civil War Has Already Begun

By William L. Gensert

“In an excellent article by Jeff Lukens here on American Thinker, he asks the question, “Is a second civil war coming?”  In reply, I say that America’s second civil war has already begun.  Its opening shots were fired by Barack Obama when he stated, “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

Most of this country is center-right and never considered America a place that needed transformation.  Most people can think of things they would change but few believe the nation needs to be torn down and rebuilt.  Obama failed but the left soldiers on in its quest for a new America remade in their own image.

When Obama went on his world apology tour, he wasn’t apologizing for America, he was apologizing for Americans.  This is the essence of this second civil war.  Leftists are demi-gods who believe they are America and that anyone who does not believe in them cannot lay legitimate claim to this country as their own.

Yes, this war has begun.  The opening skirmish was the Obama presidency itself, which history will see as a failure, despite what the media want us to believe in the here and now.  Sure, he passed ObamaCare and Dodd-Frank, overregulated, and ruled by executive diktat to great media acclaim.  Yet, ObamaCare and Dodd-Frank have been whittled away by legislation and judicial rulings, while Trump has prioritized deregulation and reversed many of Obama’s illegal executive orders.

The war’s second battle was the 2016 presidential election when Hillary Clinton, Obama’s chosen successor, lost to a television personality whom very few took seriously as a candidate.  Trump won despite the Obama administration conspiring with the Clinton campaign to steal the election and has remained as president even as that conspiracy fundamentally transformed into a failed coup attempt to depose him.

Trump’s presidency has been the third battle and with his string of successes, the battle is being won.  This, despite near-universal acrimony and condemnation among the media, the Democrats, and the left.

But, “what difference, at this point, does it make?” because these victories are pyrrhic.  As the eminent Michael Walsh said of the left, “they never stop, they never sleep, they never quit.”  Democrats are chipping away at this nation with their policies.  This is a war of attrition and we Americans are being attrited. 

For example, their “open borders” policy is effectively importing a new electorate -- one guaranteed to vote for them.  The left agrees with Obama, there is nothing wrong with America, it’s those damn Americans, so they are going to drown the conservative vote with new Democrats.  It’s the same with their policy of “everything should be free.”  Why vote for someone who promises equal opportunity when someone else promises a better outcome?

Nuclear winter became global warming became climate change became “we want total control over everything.”  The reason why Democrat candidates for the presidency so quickly signed on to my congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal is its promise of comprehensive control over every aspect of our lives.  Eliminating planes, trains, and automobiles will keep us close to our homes and jobs or for those “unwilling to work” in their basement enjoying their “universal basic income.”  Dependent people without mobility are easier to control. 

The 2020 election looms as the next battle and it will be hard fought because Democrats have myriad policies that may sound great but are really about control.  They have always been masters of micturating down our leg and telling us it is raining. 

Yet, they don’t need to trick us into acquiescence, because even should Trump win, without a complete reversal by the Democratic Party, a renewed free and fair media, and a return to the principles upon which this nation was founded, this war will continue, and it is only a matter of time before the left again wins the Presidency, or the House, or the Senate -- or all three.

When that happens, this civil war will become hot because the Democrats are going to come for our guns.  An armed citizenry is a free citizenry, and they can’t have that. 

The third most populated nation with 330,000,000 people, America has an estimated 350 million guns in circulation; any effort to seize them will call for the total mobilization of our armed forces, city and state police, and the National Guard. 

People are not going to turn in their guns and politicians who think they will do so are being naïve.  Fighting will surely ensue as the forces of the regime go door to door to try to take them.  

Many of those empowered to confiscate weapons won’t obey orders.  Defections will be common and there will be fighting in the streets, limited at first, but it will soon break out into open rebellion.  The regime will become increasingly strident and many states will refuse to comply.  Using Democratic-run “sanctuary cities” as an example of state nullification of federal law, talk of secession will become rife. 

The ruling leftists will, of course, be surprised, and orders will be given to the remaining loyalist forces to put down the rebellion.  In the end, the death toll will far exceed the 620,000 people who died in our first civil war. 

To people who say it can’t happen here, I say history is replete with examples of places that no longer exist where people believed “it can’t happen here.” 

It can’t happen here?  Open your eyes, it has already begun.”

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Mods  please leave this in GC.

I cannot consistently open  the restricted forums. 

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You hit the nail on the head !

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Interesting, Im not one for getting alarmed but it was interesting to see military helicopters (Army) from Hawaii running exercises in / over cities in so cal the last couple weeks. 

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2 hours ago, raspadoo said:

Interesting, Im not one for getting alarmed but it was interesting to see military helicopters (Army) from Hawaii running exercises in / over cities in so cal the last couple weeks. 

Funny you mention it, my neighbors works at nas north island and was complaining last night that it has been insane there all day the last week. F18’s and c130s all day in and out

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I think that article was pretty good, we are in a war of attrition, especially in regards to the constitution and the right to bear arms.

While I have no reason to doubt that there are 350 million guns in our homes, I have serious doubts about how many of those gun owners have the spine and balls to stand up, take up arms and defend their Constitution. Regardless of their excuses, whether they have kids, or don't want to get shot, or just don't think it's at that point that they need to stand up, I think the vast majority will meekly hand over their weapons and cower in the corner.

England had no problem confiscating their guns, Australia had no problem turning in their guns after an emotional response to a mass shooting. Ironically, the man who was the real life inspiration for Crocodile Dundee, Rodney William Ansell, was killed during the confiscation after he refused to surrender his weapons. If the Australians are willing to shoot their version of John Wayne, I'm not so sure this nation of people "who don't want to get involved" is going to yield too many heroes in the classic sense. 

 

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Yep, I have told people that the cold civil war has already begun.  Will be a damn shame when it goes hot, but I think it will.

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1 hour ago, socaldmax said:

I think that article was pretty good, we are in a war of attrition, especially in regards to the constitution and the right to bear arms.

While I have no reason to doubt that there are 350 million guns in our homes, I have serious doubts about how many of those gun owners have the spine and balls to stand up, take up arms and defend their Constitution. Regardless of their excuses, whether they have kids, or don't want to get shot, or just don't think it's at that point that they need to stand up, I think the vast majority will meekly hand over their weapons and cower in the corner.

England had no problem confiscating their guns, Australia had no problem turning in their guns after an emotional response to a mass shooting. Ironically, the man who was the real life inspiration for Crocodile Dundee, Rodney William Ansell, was killed during the confiscation after he refused to surrender his weapons. If the Australians are willing to shoot their version of John Wayne, I'm not so sure this nation of people "who don't want to get involved" is going to yield too many heroes in the classic sense. 

 

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I beg to differ. To many Patriots here in America. Got to remember, there is no place left to go for Freedom. This is it.

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4 minutes ago, Air450 said:

I beg to differ. To many Patriots here in America. Got to remember, there is no place left to go for Freedom. This is it.

Oh, I agree, this is the last major bastion of freedom.

From my experience, there's a big difference between saying you're a patriot and all of that, and actually being willing to lay your life on the line for it. Just based on my observations and experiences, I've seen the vast majority of people not even bother to do simple courtesies like hold the door open for others. If they can't be bothered to do a simple act like that, that requires absolutely no sacrifice whatsoever, I don't think that person is willing to do anything for others, up to and including fight and die for them.

I hope I'm wrong, but we'll see. I think we're more like lobsters in a pot. By the time we realize that the water is hot, it will be too late to mobilize and make any difference. I truly hope I'm proven wrong, but from what I've seen, most people are too self centered and comfortable with their lives to risk dying for anything.  

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Great read

 

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I think there are a wide variety of people out there. 

There are the left wing POS socialist ...  you get the idea.

There are left wing regressives.

There are left wing progressives.

There are centrists or fence sitters who don't have an opinion or don't see anything wrong.

There are stoopid people that couldn't pour water out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel. They don't see anything wrong because they're just too stoopid to see it. If you talk to them, they'll eventually see what you mean if you spoon feed them small pieces, but half an hour later, they're nodding in agreement with a libtard, so they're easily led.

Then there are those who are just right of center and aren't really alarmed.

There are right wingers who are getting alarmed.

There are far right wingers who got alarmed long ago.

There are probably lots of people (preppers) who have a hidden bunker out in the woods stocked up with an arsenal and ammo and plenty of food or water.  For obvious reasons, it's hard to tell how many there are because they aren't going to advertise who they are or where they are, which is smart.

There are also those who are willing to take up arms, but haven't done the prep work. Again, if they're smart, they're not advertising.

There are those on various forums talking about how well armed they are and boasting of what they'll do. As far as I can see, they're just easy targets to be monitored and picked up with little or no effort if it comes to that.

On the other side of the coin, there are those in law enforcement and the military who will not confiscate guns or violate anyone's 2nd A. rights. Some of them have been vocal, others have not, but I'm hoping there are a lot of those who will choose to uphold the Constitution rather than cash a paycheck.

It's hard to tell how many of which types are out there because anyone who is serious about any of this isn't advertising their capabilities or intentions, and that's a smart move. The NSA is capable of monitoring all internet communication, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they already have a lot of right wing websites and pro "tactical" gun websites on some lists for increased scrutiny.

Even if a person uses a VPN at all times, the foundation is already in place to track who visited which website, where the members of those websites shop, what they bought, etc, etc. There's a good possibility that anyone who has ever visited an online gun website or store is already on some watch list.

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Just curious,

do to my true religion being the sand dunes, and dedicating my life to all sand dunes,

looking back at all your posts,

Do you even own anything  that goes in the sand,

I thing for most having off the subjects post on a offroad site is normal,

But never really contributing to this website as true intension is just very odd to me,

then asking the mods, to not shut it down should ask yourself does it really belong here, really was a pretty long read without any Offroad content so I must apologize I did not make it half way threw it,

sorry again, if you got something for the sand you should post it from time to time,  

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1 minute ago, J Alper said:

Just curious,

do to my true religion being the sand dunes, and dedicating my life to all sand dunes,

looking back at all your posts,

Do you even own anything  that goes in the sand,

I thing for most having off the subjects post on a offroad site is normal,

But never really contributing to this website as true intension is just very odd to me,

then asking the mods, to not shut it down should ask yourself does it really belong here, really was a pretty long read without any Offroad content so I must apologize I did not make it half way threw it,

sorry again, if you got something for the sand you should post it from time to time,  

He's been a long time duner. He had a nice long travel sand rail and a (toterhome?) and trailer he built himself. I think he's just taking a short break from Glamis.

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1 minute ago, socaldmax said:

He's been a long time duner. He HAD a nice long travel sand rail and a (toterhome?) and trailer he built himself. I think he's just taking a short break from Glamis.

last time commented in sandrail tech was 2009

I really don't talk about sand on Ls1tech.com forums

Aem site stick to fuel injection

Hp tuners, is always about cutting edge tuning, only on that site,

 

I guess I find it just very odd, maybe just me,  my commits on race-dezrt  is all about the core forum site,     just feel as more people Tend to sway away from sandrail topics it just pushes people away form this site, years ago it was so entertaining with all the glamis topics sandrail pics, SXS stuff

now really feels like what tooth past is best on a Saturday morning ect…   

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I agree with asking for it to stay in GD, until it goes deep six.  Trying to log into any of the password protected tabs is borderline impossible some days.  I've totally given up on those sections.

Someone's "attendance" at the dunes, and their belonging here are two totally different things.

Myself,  I still have a TRX450, but haven't been able to make it to the dunes for a couple years.  Should I quit posting here too?

 

Nice article.  Thanks.

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2 minutes ago, J Alper said:

last time commented in sandrail tech was 2009

I really don't talk about sand on Ls1tech.com forums

Aem site stick to fuel injection

Hp tuners, is always about cutting edge tuning, only on that site,

 

I guess I find it just very odd, maybe just me,  my commits on race-dezrt  is all about the core forum site,     just feel as more people Tend to sway away from sandrail topics it just pushes people away form this site, years ago it was so entertaining with all the glamis topics sandrail pics, SXS stuff

now really feels like what tooth past is best on a Saturday morning ect…   

Gen chat is for just this type of discussion. I don't think I know of anyone who left this site due to a discussion in gen chat. I do know a lot of people who left because they felt they were excluded from "the inner circle", others left because they were openly attacked and nothing was done (back when the site was unmoderated) others have left because they claimed they didn't like the new look after the "upgrade."

He knows a lot about sandrails, what went down with Predator/Revenge racing, RV tech, a lot about a wide variety of topics. Perhaps he's just tired of people who know less arguing with him about stuff.

I know that's why I've cut way back on giving advice in sand rail tech. Why bother to help people out when people who have less knowledge and can't back up their opinions with any facts argue with you about everything? It's not worth the hassle.

You're a good source of info, but not everyone else is. It's the ignorant ones who dispute everything who drive away those who get tired of defending every single post.

If you want to purge the site of people who don't go to glamis and have never (AFAIK) owned a sand toy, I've got a nice long list for you.   :lol:

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2 hours ago, socaldmax said:

Oh, I agree, this is the last major bastion of freedom.

From my experience, there's a big difference between saying you're a patriot and all of that, and actually being willing to lay your life on the line for it. Just based on my observations and experiences, I've seen the vast majority of people not even bother to do simple courtesies like hold the door open for others. If they can't be bothered to do a simple act like that, that requires absolutely no sacrifice whatsoever, I don't think that person is willing to do anything for others, up to and including fight and die for them.

I hope I'm wrong, but we'll see. I think we're more like lobsters in a pot. By the time we realize that the water is hot, it will be too late to mobilize and make any difference. I truly hope I'm proven wrong, but from what I've seen, most people are too self centered and comfortable with their lives to risk dying for anything.  

But then again, are you relating your experiences with everyday Californians? It looks a little different across the country.

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The solution to the gun grabbers is to follow the muslim extremist example they take care of the family of anyone that dies in the name of Allah they attack people that make a cartoon of Allah. If a religion of the gun was formed and anyone whole talked of confiscation was affarid  of death because they might be harmed by an armed extremist the talk of gun troll would end.

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1 hour ago, Air450 said:

 

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Now that would be a cool pic on the wall of the shop, LOL

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Because Vegas is blue?

 

:lol:

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Interesting how the counties adjacent ports of entry are slathered in blue.

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2 hours ago, J Alper said:

Just curious,

do to my true religion being the sand dunes, and dedicating my life to all sand dunes,

looking back at all your posts,

Do you even own anything  that goes in the sand,

I thing for most having off the subjects post on a offroad site is normal,

But never really contributing to this website as true intension is just very odd to me,

then asking the mods, to not shut it down should ask yourself does it really belong here, really was a pretty long read without any Offroad content so I must apologize I did not make it half way threw it,

sorry again, if you got something for the sand you should post it from time to time,  

 

You are a sponsor on here so thanks for helping keep the site running. I would suggest asking the mods to ban me from posting in anywhere but sandrail tech if you think that would be appropriate and I’ll defer to their judgement.

 

I asked the mods not to move this because due to some glitch in the format I have to keep logging back into the protected forums and as you can see from the traffic in those forums it must be a common problem because very few people comment there like in the past (before the board update) even members that still post here on a regular basis. 

Since you are a sponsor and your lively hood depends on some of the traffic from here I’m going to respectfully decline commenting on any of the rest of your comments in an attempt to avoid any foolish internet pissing contest with no gain for you or me or the board in general. Also I believe you can put me on ignore in your settings if seeing my name pop up under new posts or unread content offends you in some way.

2 hours ago, J Alper said:

last time commented in sandrail tech was 2009

I really don't talk about sand on Ls1tech.com forums

Aem site stick to fuel injection

Hp tuners, is always about cutting edge tuning, only on that site,

 

I guess I find it just very odd, maybe just me,  my commits on race-dezrt  is all about the core forum site,     just feel as more people Tend to sway away from sandrail topics it just pushes people away form this site, years ago it was so entertaining with all the glamis topics sandrail pics, SXS stuff

now really feels like what tooth past is best on a Saturday morning ect…   

 

I know many of the members that used to frequently post here moved on to Facebook and other social media sites and many of them  never posted in sandrail tech.

As far as I know and my experience bears this out, GD.com exists to enhance the sport and lifestyle of duners and provide a place for people with common interests to interact. None of my posts have ever been made to get approval or disapproval from any one member.

 

Edited to say my last comment in sandrail tech was February 21, 2019

 

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1 hour ago, Air450 said:

But then again, are you relating your experiences with everyday Californians? It looks a little different across the country.

election-2016-county-map.png?resize=570,

You make an excellent point, my experience is based on CA people, not midwesterners, for example. We may see a much higher level of sacrifice from others outside of CA, but there are still going to be those who stay home because they have kids or whatever.

You've convinced me, my initial viewpoint was strongly skewed due to my experiences here in CA. Let's hope we have enough!   :cheers:

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28 minutes ago, ahipara 55 said:

Interesting how the counties adjacent ports of entry are slathered in blue.

Good observation! Even the Miami area of FL is blue, probably due to the influx of Marielitos criminally insane Cubans, the basis for the movie Scarface.

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Houston area is strongly blue as well.

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