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4 hours ago, L.R.S. said:

If you want to Super C call me tomorrow.  My buddy is selling their 35' 2006 Endura, 17k miles (YES only 17k!) Duramax, Allison, two slides.  It looks brand new on the inside.

 

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I will call u. Thanks jeff.

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I have had all 3 setups.  I just made the switch from the 40' WW to a 40' DP.

If overall cost is a concern you will not come in cheaper then an older 5th.  The new ones keep going up in price.  The old ones seem to just stay at the same price year after year.  Registration and insurance were less than $100 for the year.  Very cheap.  Tires are also cheap.

I bought an older DP.  Mine is a 98 with 42k miles on it.  8 air bags and rides like a cloud.  When I buy something I pay cash and tend to hang onto it for a while so the payment thing is not a factor.  Registration for it in PHX was $400 until the year 2024 so $80 a year. I have buddies who have very nice expensive new DP's and some of them pay 1000-2000 a year in registration alone!  Insurance is no more than adding another vehicle to the policy.

I was doing the 2 trailer shuffle going to the dunes and storing at GD storage.  That got old after 2 seasons.  I have plenty of room at my house to store and I missed having my rig here to tinker.  We like to do tailgating, go to other places, nascar, Mexico, family trips etc.  With 2 small kids its was a nightmare in the truck.  Now like someone else mentioned above I have chilled the F@#K out.  Set the cruise at 65-75 and crank the tunes.  Kids, wife, friends, etc can simply enjoy the ride.  IF we want to stop we can.  I used to dread waking up the last morning in the 5th knowing all the picking up and take down work that was waiting for me before we could hit the road.  Now its slides in, raise the jacks and let the coach air up while we say good bye to everyone.

I am getting ready to do a full remodel on the inside and once that is done I will have a very nice DP for a small fraction of what the new ones cost and I won't feel bad if I get it dirty.

I had the super C.  Talk about a white knuckle drive.  I would not wish that on anyone.  A passing semi would damn near toss that thing off into the ditch.

Here is a picture of mine the wife has dubbed "The Blue Whale" in Deadwood SD.  Did a 3k trip in it with the family in July.  Was a blast.

 

 

 

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Agreed with R3. I have had both and my wife Hates the TH. Smells like gas, amenities are No Where like a well furnished DP. I have a 2000 Monaco, has just under 400 HP rides like a dream. I store it at my house and we take it everywhere but yes you can get stuck. I am vigilant to walk areas before driving anywhere, got stuck last Tday in Gordons hope it is my last. I did some upgrades and also own an enclosed and hook it up to my Truck if needed. 

Sleeping for 5 will be tough to find in a DP but a good used 350hp can be found for less than 40k if you look and can do some upgrades yourself. 

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So I'm in this situation as well.  I sold my 39 ft 5er this past summer with the plan to rent a couple of different MHs or something for this season.   I was just tired of pulling tires and winching in.  However,  I can't stay away from the damn internet so I may just end up buying one.  My budget is really looking like a DP in the 350HP range.  Question is, does 350HP in a 40ft DP with a flat bed and full size sand car get the job done?  I can understand some grades pulling it down some, but will 350HP still pull 50 ish MPH or so?

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We made the switch a couple of years ago from the TH to a Toterhome, it is a super C on steroids. The ride is smooth, the power is amazing and has a 40k hitch rating  but you do get engine noise in the cab. It doesn't get blown all over the road since its on a semi chassis and pulling the stacker doesn't slow it down. It can  sleep 6-8 comfortably with the bedroom, fold out couch, bunk over the cab, table folds into a bed, and the other couch folds down. The big plus besides the power was 200 gal fresh water, 120 grey and 120 black. I doubt my wife would ever want to switch back to a TH. The down side is the length. It is 43' long without the trailer so camping in national forest campgrounds is out. We took it up to Yellowstone, Glacier National Park, and Banff in Canada last summer and didn't have a problem finding campgrounds outside the park that could accommodate the length. Dry camping in the forest is about the same as with the 5th wheel, you have to be careful where you go, can't get off the road through the bar ditch that is common along the forest roads in AZ, you have to know where you going before you get there or scout for a location if your going to a new area. When we go camping, we are usually with one of my kids so I throw a pole saw in the truck in case we need to remove a low hanging branch.

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3 hours ago, dvs1 said:

So I'm in this situation as well.  I sold my 39 ft 5er this past summer with the plan to rent a couple of different MHs or something for this season.   I was just tired of pulling tires and winching in.  However,  I can't stay away from the damn internet so I may just end up buying one.  My budget is really looking like a DP in the 350HP range.  Question is, does 350HP in a 40ft DP with a flat bed and full size sand car get the job done?  I can understand some grades pulling it down some, but will 350HP still pull 50 ish MPH or so?

350hp is fine.  I have a 2001 Holiday Rambler 40' DP, 350hp Cummins ISC with a Banks "400" kit on it.  I bought it with the Banks kit so no idea what it was like without it.  I pull a 25' triple axle tall box enclosed that's close to 12k.  I've put around 10k miles on it in the last 3 years.  As far as grades, it's not doing 65mph uphill.   But that's never bothered me because there is no trophy for climbing a hill fast in a 40k lb RV/trailer.  

 

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4 hours ago, dvs1 said:

So I'm in this situation as well.  I sold my 39 ft 5er this past summer with the plan to rent a couple of different MHs or something for this season.   I was just tired of pulling tires and winching in.  However,  I can't stay away from the damn internet so I may just end up buying one.  My budget is really looking like a DP in the 350HP range.  Question is, does 350HP in a 40ft DP with a flat bed and full size sand car get the job done?  I can understand some grades pulling it down some, but will 350HP still pull 50 ish MPH or so?

should be fine with our setup.  but if you get a bigger trailer or more toys is will just be slow going but fine.  I have a 330 cat with tuner and exhaust.  towed my stacker up to Idaho one hill i was in first gear doing 10mph.  most hills are 35 to 45mph.  I have noticed that the weight doesn't matter towing.  It tows the same with my boat or stacker behind it.  I just put some misters on the engine Radiator and now have no problems when pulling hills getting hot.  

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10 hours ago, dvs1 said:

So I'm in this situation as well.  I sold my 39 ft 5er this past summer with the plan to rent a couple of different MHs or something for this season.   I was just tired of pulling tires and winching in.  However,  I can't stay away from the damn internet so I may just end up buying one.  My budget is really looking like a DP in the 350HP range.  Question is, does 350HP in a 40ft DP with a flat bed and full size sand car get the job done?  I can understand some grades pulling it down some, but will 350HP still pull 50 ish MPH or so?

My Monaco has the 8.3 Cummins with the side mount radiator.  I torcher tested it this summer for sure climbing from PHX up to Forest Lakes on the beeline.  Left at 2pm one trip when it was 110 out.  Not by choice, but trailer tires seem to not care if you had plans of being out of the heat earlier in the day.  If you know the route it is the one you always see the camouflaged new trucks being tested because of the steep, long, and very hot conditions.  Towing my flat bed fully loaded I got down to 38 mph in 3rd.  Its a lot like a pack mule.  Not going to win any races but it will get there slow and steady.  The temp moved just slightly off the center indicator.  I know this because I was watching it like a hawk.  I passed 5 or 6 other rigs pulled over with their hoods up cooling down and 2 v10 ford motor homes.

Once you get a MH you simply slow down.  In a truck you can push it hard and fast if you want.  In a MH you just simply cant because it wont.  Hit the gas, and count to 3 before the boost starts kicking in.

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2 hours ago, r3meyer said:

Once you get a MH you simply slow down.  In a truck you can push it hard and fast if you want.  In a MH you just simply cant because it wont.  Hit the gas, and count to 3 before the boost starts kicking in.

Isn't that the truth. It doesn't matter if I am pulling the stacker or not pulling anything. My motorhome will only go as fast as the computer will let it shift.

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I'm right there with you guys, trying to decide what to do.  I've been almost all methods thru my years of Glamis.  Growing up, we had Class A motorhomes, and thru my late teens and early 20's, my dad and I bought a 28' enclosed to put both of our buggies and quads in, to tow behind his Class A Southwind moho.  I did most of the driving, so I logged many miles in this.  Later, once I was married and on my own we went to a 21' bumper pull TH with our smaller sandrail, and then to a 40' 5er for a few years with our 4 seat car.  We then went to a Revolution DP in 2008.  That was such an upgrade over the Sandpiper 5er!  At the time, I only had my sandrail and I had a 20' enclosed.  That was great, and so far my favorite setup.  In 2012, we went back to a 40' 5er again.  While the trailer is nice, it doesn't match the quality or comforts of the DP.  Towing and driving experience is no comparison.  I have said regularly that I miss my DP.  Fast forward a few years, and the kids are older (7 and 13) and I am now carrying 2 quads and a RZR in addition to the sandrail.  The only way to get this all out there has been 2 tow vehicles.  I despise this arrangement in so many ways, and we did this all last season for multiple trips.

Now I am looking at DP's again and I will need a stacker to get a sandrail, rzr and 2 kids quads out there.  It's going to be a big change but I am thinking this is the best way to go.  I considered a smaller trailer and leaving some items at Glamis, but then I have a monthly storage bill and have to worry about items left there, and drop off and pickup is a pain coming and going each trip.  It all sounds like a mess!!

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