onanysunday Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 So we are looking at buying a dump trailer. This trailer in Ontario with spare is $7993 including tax. That includes upgrading $500 to 5200lb axles. Jumps the payload from 3800 to 6500. No brainer to spend the extra 500. Round trip single day turn around from Phoenix I figure $350 in fuel to go pick it up. 3-4 weeks to get. Similar trailer in Phoenix is $8575 plus tax so pushing $9500 out the door. Best price I can find for a similar trailer. We have been borrowing a Big Tex 10SR for the last couple of years to do pine needles up north. That trailer is 3410 lbs empty and only has 2' tall sides. One of those in Phoenix priced over $12k before tax. So what gives? Stellar trailer sales in Cali overall has pretty good reviews. Also we will never load this trailer to the max. Mostly lighter loads. From what I am seeing it is $1150 difference to drive to Cali and buy a trailer. ($1500-$350 for fuel) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 (edited) After 2 weekends of all of us raking pine needles we have this pile in the driveway. It is a Mega job every summer.Pics don't do Justice how big this pile really is. Right now the big tex trailer with 2' sides even packed down would take 2 loads to go dump. With the higher 4' sides we might be able to jam at all into one load. Edited May 25 by onanysunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 This past weekend 200 yd from the house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 Called Joe at Stellar back so I could understand the taxes. He said we must pay the 7.75% Cali tax as soon as the tires hit the road. If I put the trailer on a trailer we would not have to pay Cali tax. They then give us a Cali plate and registration good for 5 years. I assume in AZ there is a time limit to get it registered here. He then said if AZ tax is higher we would pay the difference and if lower we would get a refund for the difference. Sounds odd to me. Anyone know if this is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 Bucket extension added for bigger loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realbadlarry Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 just light it on fire....it'll be gone in a flash... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat-A-Tonic Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I would trailer it out. Not giving CA a stinking dime if I don't have to. You would get screwed somehow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 36 minutes ago, Kat-A-Tonic said: I would trailer it out. Not giving CA a stinking dime if I don't have to. You would get screwed somehow. I was thinking the same. Talked to a guy this afternoon on this trailer. It can be bought for $9150.00 inc AZ tax. Then a plate. It includes the roller tarp kit which is $500 to add to the other trailer. The ram is lower and a different design. What do you think about each design from the pics? GD.Com CSI what do you think? This one also has the ramps/bobcat kit. Although we don't need it now and have a flatbed to haul the tractor or other equipment if needed. Still nice to have as part of the package. I can go look at this trailer 7 miles from my house. Nicer wheels as well if those are standard. Numbers are a lot closer together and would love not driving to Cali if possible. Hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 Front cross piece on the cali trailer is box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 Front cross piece on the AZ trailer is channel. Not sure it makes much difference. This trailer also has 6000 lb axles and the cali trailer has 5200lb axles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 The Cali trailer has this additional bar whereas the AZ trailer does not. I assume it has something to do with the roll up tarp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Tax reciprocity: https://www.integratedendpoints.com/blog/tax-consequences-of-buying-an-out-of-state-vehicle?format=amp That being said… One problem with the trailer and you’ve cut a third of your savings assuming it can be fixed while you wait. Local is almost always better unless there’s a network of dealers or whatever. What area is that? Beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1HasBeen Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Have you tried Jacks Sons Trailer Sales, or Bishops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 48 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Tax reciprocity: https://www.integratedendpoints.com/blog/tax-consequences-of-buying-an-out-of-state-vehicle?format=amp That being said… One problem with the trailer and you’ve cut a third of your savings assuming it can be fixed while you wait. Local is almost always better unless there’s a network of dealers or whatever. What area is that? Beautiful. Mormon Lake AZ 38 minutes ago, 1HasBeen said: Have you tried Jacks Sons Trailer Sales, or Bishops? No I will give them a shout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honEXduner Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 49 minutes ago, onanysunday said: The Cali trailer has this additional bar whereas the AZ trailer does not. I assume it has something to do with the roll up tarp? It’s the upper latch for the door system and it keeps the door posts plumb as well. Helps when filling with brush and packing it down - makes the doors easier to open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, honEXduner said: It’s the upper latch for the door system and it keeps the door posts plumb as well. Helps when filling with brush and packing it down - makes the doors easier to open. OK See it and got it. Not sure why they did it that way. Here is the back of the AZ Trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honEXduner Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, onanysunday said: OK See it and got it. Not sure why they did it that way. Here is the back of the AZ Trailer. Same deal on that one, bar is just closer to the top of the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 Talked to the AZ trailer guy again and he said the manufacturer is quoting 2600 lbs empty weight. CA trailer is 3200. No way that is correct. They are very close to each other. AZ trailer does NOT come with the ramps at the 8575 price. It is 9075 with the bobcat ramps. Don't really need them anyway. We could order one without the tarp but it is only $350 so not worth leaving it off. He thinks the Stellar ram is smaller from looking at the pics. His is a 12,000lb ram. I need to run by and look at this trailer. Steller has 134 reviews with 4.6 out of 5 but this one concerned me a little bit. Quote We bought a heavy duty dump trailer 3 months ago. The salesman forgot to send the remote for the hydraulic dump. Called him and he said he mailed it. Weeks go by and nothing. I’ve called and texted him numerous times and he will not respond. As for the trailer…within the first few weeks of use both gate latches we’re broken. Cheaply attached with poor craftsmanship. Last week the hydraulic dump got stuck in the fully lifted position and would not lower. Hydraulics no longer work. Haven’t even used it 20 times. We spent over $11,000 on this trailer. Do not waste your money here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondajimz Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Have you looked into trailers in New Mexico or Texas ? Last year they were cheaper than CA, NV or AZ Also in CA you need a CDL to tow a dump trailer with a 10k GVWR and above. Is AZ similar ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanysunday Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 6 minutes ago, Hondajimz said: Have you looked into trailers in New Mexico or Texas ? Last year they were cheaper than CA, NV or AZ Also in CA you need a CDL to tow a dump trailer with a 10k GVWR and above. Is AZ similar ? So if I tow an empty dump trailer home to AZ I would need a CDL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondajimz Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, onanysunday said: So if I tow an empty dump trailer home to AZ I would need a CDL? I don't know what the AZ requirement is. I'm assuming the CA law doesn't apply since you're an AZ resident. Just throwing it out there as something to look into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireballsocal Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I don't see a comparable trailer being built cheaper in Ca. verses Az. There has to be somewhere they are cutting corners. Even the smaller ram doesn't make sense. What would wholesale difference on that be? $10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilla68 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 9 hours ago, onanysunday said: Talked to the AZ trailer guy again and he said the manufacturer is quoting 2600 lbs empty weight. CA trailer is 3200. No way that is correct. They are very close to each other. AZ trailer does NOT come with the ramps at the 8575 price. It is 9075 with the bobcat ramps. Don't really need them anyway. We could order one without the tarp but it is only $350 so not worth leaving it off. He thinks the Stellar ram is smaller from looking at the pics. His is a 12,000lb ram. I need to run by and look at this trailer. Steller has 134 reviews with 4.6 out of 5 but this one concerned me a little bit. from what I see these days, they are ALL gonna have issues, just depends on what pops up, unless custom built. My buddy has one, it sure seems cheaply made, but its held up for what I or others that borrow it have needed to use it for. I'm sure they have to keep the metal thin to keep weight down. His has a very thin floor, at least in my mind, the floor should be the thickest part, if you were hauling dirt or concrete every day I don't think it would hold up. I'd research what thickness the floors are etc. side walls are probably all the same, just something to "hold it in". The price has sure gone up, my buddy gave 4k brand new here in okla before covid hit. We use it more than he does lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1HasBeen Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I was very pleased with my PJ gooseneck, but I think at this point, quality-wise, Diamond C is probably about the best right now. If you are into traveling, try The Trailer Store in Winnemucca, NV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 11 hours ago, onanysunday said: So if I tow an empty dump trailer home to AZ I would need a CDL? Have them give you a 9,999lb GVWR sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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