L.R.S. Posted Saturday at 11:09 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:09 PM 30 minutes ago, zilla68 said: LOVES is the highest place around anymore, on cue has huge islands and cheaper fuel Diesel is $6.89 near my house so $5.63 is winning. Also, really appreciate the offer to store the 5th wheel at your storage. He picked it up at 4pm yesterday and headed straight to Duncan, OK to get a couple days R&R before heading to Kansas then Oregon. Went to a rodeo last night and he's been on a pontoon boat all day today. Kinda jealous to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Kraut_n_Rice Posted Saturday at 11:18 PM Site Sponsor Share Posted Saturday at 11:18 PM 3 hours ago, Rorschach said: I do the opposite with the semi. I pull into the little gas stations all the time to buy at a lower price. If I can save $.20-.30 a gallon or more I'm pulling in. If it looks like I can't get the trailer in then I'll drop it nearby or on the street. Truckstops usually gouge you pretty bad compared to the smaller stations You're only saving the $.18 tax the truck stops charge at the big pumps. Pretty sure there is a regulation against using the "regular" diesel pumps for OTR use. Whatever.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted Sunday at 04:49 AM Share Posted Sunday at 04:49 AM 5 hours ago, Kraut_n_Rice said: You're only saving the $.18 tax the truck stops charge at the big pumps. Pretty sure there is a regulation against using the "regular" diesel pumps for OTR use. Whatever.. The diesel you buy at the small stations is the same as the diesel you buy at the truck stop. Not sure why you'd think there was a difference. I'm not aware of any regulations restricting me from using fuel from the "regular" pump in my truck. Like I said if it's a $.20 per gallon savings or more then I'm filling at the smaller station. I filled up in Lubbock last week at the HEB for $4.92 a gallon. The cheapest truck stop was $5.30. that's a little more than $.18. $.38 x 200 gallons is 76 bucks. Add to that the 3% cash back on my credit card and the savings add up to about $100. Well worth the extra 20-30 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Kraut_n_Rice Posted Sunday at 05:16 AM Site Sponsor Share Posted Sunday at 05:16 AM 19 minutes ago, Rorschach said: The diesel you buy at the small stations is the same as the diesel you buy at the truck stop. Not sure why you'd think there was a difference. I'm not aware of any regulations restricting me from using fuel from the "regular" pump in my truck. Like I said if it's a $.20 per gallon savings or more then I'm filling at the smaller station. I filled up in Lubbock last week at the HEB for $4.92 a gallon. The cheapest truck stop was $5.30. that's a little more than $.18. $.38 x 200 gallons is 76 bucks. Add to that the 3% cash back on my credit card and the savings add up to about $100. Well worth the extra 20-30 minutes. If you notice how the diesel prices on the signs at truck stop(Loves,etc)will toggle back and forth a price, it's the tax difference between the auto pumps in front and the commercial truck pumps in the back. When I would stop at a Loves to fill up my DMAX at the big pumps (I was getting 50+gallons at a time), I had to go inside and pay to get the non-commercial price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted Sunday at 05:25 AM Share Posted Sunday at 05:25 AM (edited) 10 minutes ago, Kraut_n_Rice said: If you notice how the diesel prices on the signs at truck stop(Loves,etc)will toggle back and forth a price, it's the tax difference between the auto pumps in front and the commercial truck pumps in the back. When I would stop at a Loves to fill up my DMAX at the big pumps (I was getting 50+gallons at a time), I had to go inside and pay to get the non-commercial price. The sign toggles back and forth between credit and cash. It's usually about $.06 difference. That's because credit cards charge a percentage on the sale when you use plastic for payment. It has nothing to do with commercial or non-commercial. You and I can go to any fuel station in America, you in your DMAX and me in my semi and we can both get the same fuel for the same price. Edited Sunday at 05:27 AM by Rorschach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Kraut_n_Rice Posted Sunday at 05:28 AM Site Sponsor Share Posted Sunday at 05:28 AM 1 minute ago, Rorschach said: The sign toggles back and forth between credit and cash. It's usually about $.06 difference. That's because credit cards charge a percentage on the sale when you use plastic for payment. It has nothing to do with commercial or non-commercial. We're not talking about the same thing. The small stations, Circle K typically, will play the "easy pay/credit" bullshit. Truck stops will toggle auto and truck prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted Sunday at 05:37 AM Share Posted Sunday at 05:37 AM (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kraut_n_Rice said: We're not talking about the same thing. The small stations, Circle K typically, will play the "easy pay/credit" bullshit. Truck stops will toggle auto and truck prices Easy pay is a third party payer that you link your credit card to for payment. You see this at circle k and the like. But a lot of the truck stops have signs that toggle back and forth between credit and cash prices which is usually about $.06 difference. Here's an example. Nothing there about commercial or non-commercial or auto and truck. Edited Sunday at 05:41 AM by Rorschach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Kraut_n_Rice Posted Sunday at 05:43 AM Site Sponsor Share Posted Sunday at 05:43 AM 6 minutes ago, Rorschach said: Easy pay is a third party payer that you link your credit card to to make payment. A lot of the truck stops have signs that toggle back and forth between credit and cash prices which is usually about $.06 difference. Here's an example. Nothing there about commercial or non-commercial. Where is that station? I need to fill up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted Sunday at 05:47 AM Share Posted Sunday at 05:47 AM (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kraut_n_Rice said: Where is that station? I need to fill up. Just a pic I found online. An old one obviously. But seriously, I can't tell if you're punking me or if you really think there's a regulated different higher fuel price for commercial vehicles Edited Sunday at 05:49 AM by Rorschach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Kraut_n_Rice Posted Sunday at 05:50 AM Site Sponsor Share Posted Sunday at 05:50 AM 2 minutes ago, Rorschach said: Just a pic I found online. An old one obviously. But seriously, I can't tell if you're punking me or if you really think there's a different higher fuel price for commercial vehicles I used to have to go inside with my NON commercial DL to get the auto fuel price at the truck pumps. No BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted Sunday at 06:09 AM Share Posted Sunday at 06:09 AM (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kraut_n_Rice said: I used to have to go inside with my NON commercial DL to get the auto fuel price at the truck pumps. No BS. I stand corrected. It looks like that's just an AZ thing tho. They do have an $.18 extra per gallon commercial vehicle fuel tax. They also have a fuel tax evasion unit (fuel tax police) to criminalize using dyed fuel for on road use and blending untaxed waste products into diesel fuel for on road use. They'd nail me to the cross over there. I burn thousands of gallons of waste oil for fuel every year in on road vehicles. Edited Sunday at 06:12 AM by Rorschach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Kraut_n_Rice Posted Sunday at 06:29 AM Site Sponsor Share Posted Sunday at 06:29 AM 13 minutes ago, Rorschach said: I stand corrected. It looks like that's just an AZ thing tho. They do have an $.18 extra per gallon commercial vehicle fuel tax. They also have a fuel tax evasion unit (fuel tax police) to criminalize using dyed fuel for on road use and blending untaxed waste products into diesel fuel for on road use. They'd nail me to the cross over there. I burn thousands of gallons of waste oil for fuel every year in on road vehicles. Using dyed fuel on road and using "auto" diesel for OTR are not exactly the same. But, both a no-no. Both tax evasion. There is an additional tax break on dyed fuel. Penalties' are stiff if busted using red fuel on road.. Nothing here says you can't run waste oil as a fuel on road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted Sunday at 06:33 AM Share Posted Sunday at 06:33 AM (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kraut_n_Rice said: Using dyed fuel on road and using "auto" diesel for OTR are not exactly the same. But, both a no-no. Both tax evasion. There is an additional tax break on dyed fuel. Penalties' are stiff if busted using red fuel on road.. Nothing here says you can't run waste oil as a fuel on road. Idk. The fuel tax evasion unit might have something to say about it. Apparently untaxed fuel damages engines. Edited Sunday at 06:34 AM by Rorschach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Kraut_n_Rice Posted Sunday at 07:09 AM Site Sponsor Share Posted Sunday at 07:09 AM Never heard of anyone getting busted for using bio/waste fuel. That would go against the "be green" BS. If the law reads like that in AZ, what convoluted mess has CA put together? Burning waste oil here was so prevalent that you paid for shitty chinese take out grease trap oil.. I started to assemble my own bio D still/processor a few years back. Getting the oil was a huge PITA be cause everyone wanted it. Gave up on it. YMMV.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted Sunday at 07:24 AM Share Posted Sunday at 07:24 AM 9 minutes ago, Kraut_n_Rice said: Never heard of anyone getting busted for using bio/waste fuel. That would go against the "be green" BS. If the law reads like that in AZ, what convoluted mess has CA put together? Burning waste oil here was so prevalent that you paid for shitty chinese take out grease trap oil.. I started to assemble my own bio D still/processor a few years back. Getting the oil was a huge PITA be cause everyone wanted it. Gave up on it. YMMV.. Eff that fryer oil crap. My processor is an inline spin on filter that I pump used motor oil thru on it's way to my fuel tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayClay Posted Monday at 05:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:53 PM On 6/15/2022 at 9:21 AM, ChEFF said: I would like to know if anyone can argue with that? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Because I completely agree. Peace Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honEXduner Posted Tuesday at 03:38 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:38 AM On 6/25/2022 at 11:09 PM, Rorschach said: It looks like that's just an AZ thing tho. They do have an $.18 extra per gallon commercial vehicle fuel tax. The AZ diesel tax rates are $.18 for "light" class and $.26 for "heavy" class so only $.08 difference between the two. Definitely something to pay attention to if filling a large tank (RV or similar). Many truck stops have "RV/Auto" lanes with the cheaper rate but same wide / pull through access path as the trucks use for convenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted Tuesday at 01:01 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:01 PM 9 hours ago, honEXduner said: The AZ diesel tax rates are $.18 for "light" class and $.26 for "heavy" class so only $.08 difference between the two. Definitely something to pay attention to if filling a large tank (RV or similar). Many truck stops have "RV/Auto" lanes with the cheaper rate but same wide / pull through access path as the trucks use for convenience. Sounds like something you'd find in CA. I'm really just interested in getting fuel at the lowest price I can. Fortunately I usually don't have to buy any in AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator ChEFF Posted Tuesday at 01:03 PM Forum Moderator Share Posted Tuesday at 01:03 PM Going to get more Diesel for the equipment. Nothing like dropping a quick $450.00! Peace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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