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I remember there was a pool thread on the "old" GD.com. We are thinking about putting in a pool. I have no idea what the costs are now-a-days or who a good person to talk to. ANy recommendations? 

It would be a basic pool, no spa. More of a lounging/party pool. Baja step, seating area. 

We are in Poway, north San Diego area.

 

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Don't know your personal situation, but if you can wait, I would do so. Right now is not a good time. Everyone and his brother wants to put in a pool right now. Contractors are all booked and charging a premium, equipment and materials are almost impossible to get, and if you can get it, the price of everything is through the roof.

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IF you seriously want a pool, go out and make a pile of $100 bills and burn them.....it will be quicker and less painful than owning a pool.

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Just don't have San Diego Pool Plastering do the plaster.

They did mine and have nothing but problems since.

It was so bad they sent someone out and had to drain the pool again.

Then they used grinders to try and smooth out the plaster 

Now there are little holes in the finish that is almost impossible to keep Algae from growing.

I can still see the holes on the bottom from their spiked shoes.

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Good luck.  Pools are just sitting right now because you cant get equipment. 

What was a 50k is double or more this year.

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Pools are awesome. Don't let negative posts keep you from getting a pool. It's just money. Spend it / Burn it / whatever you wish to do with your money. Nothing better than an ice cold delicious beverage lounging naked in the pool. And your neighbors will build you a fence. Amazing how much money we saved the first day of diving in Naked. While waving at my neighbors next door. Wish I knew a good pool builder. We're in the market for one too. Meeting the design team Thursday! I'll keep ya posted in the chEFF's Dream Home Build TOPic. Peace

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I know now it not the time to buy anything. I am just trying to figure out what the cost is. It seems like anything I want to do to the backyard is 100k. I would think, start it in spring so that is is ready in summer. But that is probably what everyone else is doing. 

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17 minutes ago, Punchdrunk Monkey said:

I know now it not the time to buy anything. I am just trying to figure out what the cost is. It seems like anything I want to do to the backyard is 100k. I would think, start it in spring so that is is ready in summer. But that is probably what everyone else is doing. 

IF you start now you might be ready by next year this time.

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16 minutes ago, Punchdrunk Monkey said:

I know now it not the time to buy anything. I am just trying to figure out what the cost is. It seems like anything I want to do to the backyard is 100k. I would think, start it in spring so that is is ready in summer. But that is probably what everyone else is doing. 

I am inspecting pools for pre gunite that were started in February.....some builders are getting them done faster but as stated above, this is not the best time to have a pool built. 

It'll slow down in the next year for sure and prices will come WAY down and parts, pieces and chemicals will be available again. Saw the same thing back in '06.

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don't understand the negative posts.. have had 2 pools now and we love it. matter a fact we watched the UFC fight from the spa on Saturday :swim: 

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7 minutes ago, bringenkaos said:

don't understand the negative posts.. have had 2 pools now and we love it. matter a fact we watched the UFC fight from the spa on Saturday :swim: 

Because you have yet to have an old pool. 

Tomorrow I will decide to have my pump and filter replaced/ fixed or fill the dam thing in. Have spent the last month trying to get somebody anybody to come out and get the dam thing so it stops leaking water. I have replaced every part and every time I replace one piece of the puzzle another starts to leak. Have had two guys come out and tell me to replace the entire filter/ pump , I say ok how much, they will get back to me,  I will get back to you is code for don't want to do anything or call you back. 

 

 Oh and I spent an hour cleaning the pool Saturday from Fridays dust storm and about the time I finished another storm hit. Got to spend an hour cleaning it again Sunday. Yesterday I guess I could of jumped in the pool but had other things to do but there is tonight, oh that's right another storm coming in tonight. So guess whqt I get to do tomorrow instead of enjoying the pool

 

 

Filling it in is sounding better and better 

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If you want a pool, go get it.  Plan on it taking a year to complete right now, start now for 4th of July next year grand opening.  A couple of things with the pools right now, hire a pool guy to take care of it.  If something breaks they will be there to fix it because they want a working pool to clean, a non working pool is harder to keep clean.  Getting anything to repair pools right now is tough, heck there is a Chorine shortage as well.  

Personally, my favorite pool is my neighbors.............ha  I love their boat as well.

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26 minutes ago, MWB said:

Because you have yet to have an old pool. 

Tomorrow I will decide to have my pump and filter replaced/ fixed or fill the dam thing in. Have spent the last month trying to get somebody anybody to come out and get the dam thing so it stops leaking water. I have replaced every part and every time I replace one piece of the puzzle another starts to leak. Have had two guys come out and tell me to replace the entire filter/ pump , I say ok how much, they will get back to me,  I will get back to you is code for don't want to do anything or call you back. 

 

 Oh and I spent an hour cleaning the pool Saturday from Fridays dust storm and about the time I finished another storm hit. Got to spend an hour cleaning it again Sunday. Yesterday I guess I could of jumped in the pool but had other things to do but there is tonight, oh that's right another storm coming in tonight. So guess whqt I get to do tomorrow instead of enjoying the pool

 

 

Filling it in is sounding better and better 

Its not that they DONT want to fix it... its that they cant.  You cant get pumps, filters, valves, lights, plumbing, panels, heaters, salt systems, cleaners or anything.

I am a builder.  I have a list of part numbers I search for every morning trying to complete a mile long list of work we have suspended.  I have even had parts sold out from under me at part houses.  MFG's are 6-9 months out on all orders from factory.

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a basic kidney shaped pool with no spa is approx 65-70k here in havasu now. pre covid it was closer to 40k. with spa a couple water features your at 100k today. pools here are taking apporx 10 months to complete due to labor and materials issues.

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5 minutes ago, r3meyer said:

Its not that they DONT want to fix it... its that they cant.  You cant get pumps, filters, valves, lights, plumbing, panels, heaters, salt systems, cleaners or anything.

I am a builder.  I have a list of part numbers I search for every morning trying to complete a mile long list of work we have suspended.  I have even had parts sold out from under me at part houses.  MFG's are 6-9 months out on all orders from factory.

Then say that, Right now I have one project that has been waiting to start for over 4 months, all because they can't get the tile they want. So the project sits. I had another one that the customer pulled the trigger and said lets do this but it has to be done by this date.  I told them then pick new light fixtures because the ones you ordered they won't even give me a ship date ( Canadian). So they looked around and picked out another light fixture that we will have in time.  I have told GC's that the hand me work they want to give me they need to give to another person, why because I don't have the labor force to complete it in the time they need it done by. I would rather over perform on work I can do then under perform on work I cannot. 

 

Material shortages, Bad Contractors, Worse Employee's making it so becoming a greeter at Wal Mart is looking a lot better option these day's

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Go to Walmart and get an above ground one and use if for a year or so until prices come down. That will let you know if you're really going to use it enough or not.

I just spent $750 just to find a leak in mine, so not so hopped up on pools at the moment. It is nice to look over and see the sparkling water, but I think I'd put in a huge spa before I did a pool. Most of the time you're just hanging out in it, and being able to get it warmed up in the cooler months would make it a year round kinda thing.

 

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40 minutes ago, Punchdrunk Monkey said:

So how about the difference in a regular pool a salt water pool??

i have salt and haven't had to add chlorine but 2 times. once you get the balance right the only thing you add regularly is acid and algicide. 

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We built our first pool after we bought this house in 2018. Started in Nov. swam in April. Salt system and love it.

Total cost was $77,000 for the backyard (pool and hardscape). Also bought a stand alone spa (A good Master Spa at about $10,000).

These are way more comfortable and I use it all year long. We designed a special spot just for the spa. Happy with the whole set up.

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2 hours ago, MWB said:

 

 

 

Filling it in is sounding better and better 

 

Been there done that. Peace

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2 hours ago, MWB said:

Because you have yet to have an old pool. 

Tomorrow I will decide to have my pump and filter replaced/ fixed or fill the dam thing in. Have spent the last month trying to get somebody anybody to come out and get the dam thing so it stops leaking water. I have replaced every part and every time I replace one piece of the puzzle another starts to leak. Have had two guys come out and tell me to replace the entire filter/ pump , I say ok how much, they will get back to me,  I will get back to you is code for don't want to do anything or call you back. 

 

 Oh and I spent an hour cleaning the pool Saturday from Fridays dust storm and about the time I finished another storm hit. Got to spend an hour cleaning it again Sunday. Yesterday I guess I could of jumped in the pool but had other things to do but there is tonight, oh that's right another storm coming in tonight. So guess whqt I get to do tomorrow instead of enjoying the pool

 

 

Filling it in is sounding better and better 

so a guy at work transferred to springfield and rented his house. the pool pump went out. he called me to ask me to look at it. I've never owned one, and had no clue where to start. capacitor was ok, pump wouldn't work. he ordered the exact same pump from amazon. it came in and i installed it (ordered same one so i wouldn't have to replumb it). took the old one down to an electric motor shop and they were able to fix it for 50.00, so now we have a spare. Doesn't seem like there's much to them, where's your leak at? i swapped pumps in about 10 mins

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We had an old that needed redoing when we bought our house.

We enjoyed the heck out of it even though it looked like kaka...

10 years later and almost $90K we did a full remodel and absolutley love it.

First, get multiple bids. 

2nd go with a reputable company.

3rd, make sure they are insured and bonded.

4th,When you pic tile, make sure YOU SEE A FULL SHEET of what ever color you pic. They come in 2' x 2' sheets and usually have multiple colors that may not be what you want.

5th, pic a finish that suits you and the color of water you want. We wanted the brightest bluest water and the smoothest finish...so we went with White Plaster.

6th, don't skimp on equipment...get the good stuff.

7th, if you can get the phone app to run everything. It's cool to be out to dinner and turn on the jacuzzi at the restaurant and come home and get right in.

8th, whoever you pic, go see some finish pools they have done.

9th, ask a lot of questions. like what will this finish look like in 1, 3, 5, 10 years down the road. Does this get hot and will burn our feet? What about water features...

There are lot of them, sheer descents, sheer rainfall, rock waterfalls, real rock, fake rock features (Look like crap if not done right) If you go fake, Look at Matrixrock.com

https://www.matrixrock.com/ They are the best, but expensive. We did not go this route since our pool is more of a modern look.

10th, Calcium...you can't get away from it so pic a waterline tile and Grout that minimizes how much it stands out.

11th, Stay away from glass tiles, they don't last and fall off.

12th and maybe the most important...GET A POOL MAN TO TAKE CARE OF IT!!!!  Best $105/mo I spend. I don't have to worry about the pool being cleaned or if the chemicals are off!

13th, if you go heat, use gas not electric!

Here are some before and after shots of our little remodel!

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We love it and love having a pool and enjoy they heck out of it.

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Oh and another thing...drains and drainage!

Think about how your yard is now with the rain and if you get flooding.

Our backyard used to get flooded near the patio, so we had a full drain system put in...18 drains in the backyard that lead to the street.

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BTW, we went with CA Pools of Orange County.

They have been around since 1953.

We did have some issues that were taken care of. They actually shaped our spa wrong at first and put a step in the wrong spot. We wanted the Negative edge or Champagne edge which means it slopes back towards the spa interior. The water then fills up to the edge then spills over like a champagne glass spilling over. its really cool, but they shaped it flat on top! :kenk: 

You need to watch them carefully!

Also know that things are gonna happen...it's up to the company you chose to make it good.

 

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