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Can Am X3 part duex - the build/decorating of the new one


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As many know, I picked up a new 2021 Can Am X3 RR RC (rock crawl 195hp model) back in June.  My prior X3 was totaled out due to some frame breakage.  I have slowly gathering up parts for the new ride.   Last week I picked up a set of S3 Powersports lower a-arms for a smoking deal.  They were used for about 800 miles and was able to get them $200.00.   They look pretty much brand new.  I will likely order up the matching upper arms, although the stock arms were never a issue.  I have my Super ATV arms from my prior car which I will put on the new car.   Over the 4th of July weekend TMW was having a sale so I order their gusset kit, radius rod plate and a new bumper that fits the winch that comes with the car.  I have a new cage, spare tires carrier and doors on order from Fabwerx, but won't be seeing that for several months, which is fine as I do not have any trips planned this summer.  

I will be taking my shocks over to Tom Morris at UTV Shocks for his latest and greatest shock set up.  I talk to him last month and we have a game plan on getting my shocks set up for the way I like to drive. 

Still debating on selling my current Rugged Radio/Intercom set up (60watt white radio and 660 intercom) and giving PCI a try.   Also considering selling my Rugged air set up and going a different direction.  Also think I want to go with a bigger Lowrance GPS unit.  My Elite5ti is good, but bigger unit would be nice.  If anyone is interested let me know and maybe we can make a deal.

My kid has gotten into RC racing and damn it if that hobby is not just as bad as owning a SXS.  Went from one 1/0th scale truck to a 1/10th scale 4wd buggy and two 1/8 scale 4wd buggies.   Needless to say, Over the next few months I will be taking my sweet time tearing the Can Am apart to put on the new parts.  LOL!

First order of business was removing the red rear fender deflectors and replace them with black ones.  The red never looked right and they are a cheap part to replace.  A quick order through Rocky Mountain ATV and the new black ones were at my doorstep in a few days.  I like the black much better.   

 

 

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I will be powder coating the beadlock rings to match the red/orange color on the car and the red anodized part either black or the same color as the beadlock rings.

 

The a-arms I picked up are really beefy and in great shape.   

 

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New bumper is very stout.  Not sure yet if I am going to leave it black or have it powder coated to match the red.  TMW forgot to mail the end caps and one other piece with the bumper.  Called them up and they are shipping me the missing parts. 

I will be putting 3 Baja Design XL80s on the bumper.   The 2021 RR models comes with a bigger stator (850 watts).  So I will have plenty of power for my lights. 

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37 minutes ago, Kat-A-Tonic said:

Shocks set up the way you like to drive?  You mean hammering the skid plate at every bump, LOL.

LOL!  I don't like to lift what can I say.  Funny thing most of those taps in the sand I did not feel.

I have seen your sandrail leave some divots in the sand when you lead.   

New set up should be much better.  

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24 minutes ago, onanysunday said:

:coffee::popcorn:

It won't be as fancy as your vette build, but it might take me as much time.  LOL!

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Glad to see you’re moving along with the build thread. 

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15 hours ago, ROBERT L said:

Glad to see you’re moving along with the build thread. 

I figured I better get going soon.  Dune season will be here before we know it. 

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I decided to get matching upper a-arms.  So I ordered some S3 Powersports upper a-arms.  They arrived yesterday.  Much like the lowers they are very stout and I should have not worries with the a-arms.   I am sticking with stock ball joints as they were never an issue for me on my last X3. 

 

I will start installing everything in the next few weeks. 

 

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The car is on jack stands and will be there for a little bit.   Took the shocks off and dropped them off for Tom Morris (UTV Shocks) to do his magic.  He has a new set up and can't wait to test it out. 

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How backed up with work is Tom these days? Gary still his partner? 
 

did you source the springs or get them from Tom? 
 

what did you decide on for bushings? 
i went with super Dave’s on my ct race works arms and they’ve held up great 

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56 minutes ago, Intro2Rhino said:

How backed up with work is Tom these days? Gary still his partner? 
 

did you source the springs or get them from Tom? 
 

what did you decide on for bushings? 
i went with super Dave’s on my ct race works arms and they’ve held up great 

I was going to wait a little longer, but when I talk to him he said to get them in now.  He had some military work coming up next month that would put into September if I waited.  By September he will get the mad rush of people getting ready for desert/dune season.   As far as I know Gary is still his partner.  Gary is retired so I think he will do some shock stuff if your in Lake Havasu.

Tom did not say anything about issues with getting springs.  I assume he has a stock pile of them. 

Have not decided on which bushings.  Might go with what S3 uses or Sandcraft.  

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I’ve had great luck with Garage Products bushings. He only shows bushings for stock suspension arms on his site, but he has told me he makes bushings for aftermarket arms. He just needs to know the specs, if he has not already made some for that brand. What brand does S3 use? Or do they make their own? 
 

Sand Shark, Honestly how much money in upgrades do you think you will have in your new car when your all done? Including parts transferred from your old car too. This is not a Speed UTV comparison question, because upgrades/accessories will get added to those to. The reason I ask is one of my neighbors has the X3 max, he’s the one I’ve mentioned about finding cracks. He figures he’s put $16-18k in upgrades/accessories in his car. It’s a real nice car, but I was surprised he’s put that much in it.

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14 hours ago, NIKAL said:

I’ve had great luck with Garage Products bushings. He only shows bushings for stock suspension arms on his site, but he has told me he makes bushings for aftermarket arms. He just needs to know the specs, if he has not already made some for that brand. What brand does S3 use? Or do they make their own? 
 

Sand Shark, Honestly how much money in upgrades do you think you will have in your new car when your all done? Including parts transferred from your old car too. This is not a Speed UTV comparison question, because upgrades/accessories will get added to those to. The reason I ask is one of my neighbors has the X3 max, he’s the one I’ve mentioned about finding cracks. He figures he’s put $16-18k in upgrades/accessories in his car. It’s a real nice car, but I was surprised he’s put that much in it.

S3 makes there own bushings or has someone make them for them. I will be giving Garage Products a call to see if they make them for the S3 arms.  I have friends that use there bushings with good results. 

I will not be anywhere near $16-18K into my car.  Sounds like your friend paid full retail and a lot in labor chargers.

This new car I am going a little nuts with the cage (doors, window nets, roof rack, and spare tire carrier) and that will be the biggest cost. Second biggest cost is the shock work.   I would guess if you tallied up it would be in the $6K range or more.  It is hard to calculate as there is stuff on the new car I do not need and will be selling to off-set the cost.  

 

 

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5 hours ago, Sand Shark said:

S3 makes there own bushings or has someone make them for them. I will be giving Garage Products a call to see if they make them for the S3 arms.  I have friends that use there bushings with good results. 

I will not be anywhere near $16-18K into my car.  Sounds like your friend paid full retail and a lot in labor chargers.

This new car I am going a little nuts with the cage (doors, window nets, roof rack, and spare tire carrier) and that will be the biggest cost. Second biggest cost is the shock work.   I would guess if you tallied up it would be in the $6K range or more.  It is hard to calculate as there is stuff on the new car I do not need and will be selling to off-set the cost.  

 

 

6k is not bad at all. I figured your close to that with just the Fabwerx’s cage part. 
 

The neighbor with the X3 Max, I don’t know how much of the work he did? I see him work on it so I assume must of done some of it. But is got the cage, bumpers, doors, spare tire rack. 33 Tensors &  Wheels, seats & belts. The suspension arms look aftermarket, but I don’t know what brand? He did tell me he had the S3 weld in kit put in when he started finding cracks. He’s got Shock Therapy shocks & “stuff”. Not sure what radio, but his GPS has the be the 12. It’s huge! 

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26 minutes ago, NIKAL said:

6k is not bad at all. I figured your close to that with just the Fabwerx’s cage part. 
 

The neighbor with the X3 Max, I don’t know how much of the work he did? I see him work on it so I assume must of done some of it. But is got the cage, bumpers, doors, spare tire rack. 33 Tensors &  Wheels, seats & belts. The suspension arms look aftermarket, but I don’t know what brand? He did tell me he had the S3 weld in kit put in when he started finding cracks. He’s got Shock Therapy shocks & “stuff”. Not sure what radio, but his GPS has the be the 12. It’s huge! 

It does add up quickly.  Especially on a 4 seater when you have to buy 2 more seats and 2 more doors. 

Fabwerx cage is a lot more reasonably priced than people think.   He has always given me very fair prices.   The 9" Lowrance would be fine for me.   My friend has 12" screen GPS, my eyes are not that bad yet.  LOL!

S3 makes some nice weld in gussets.    I saw the other day that Phil Blurton races his Can Am with stock trailing arms with his weld on gussets. 

 

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20 hours ago, Sand Shark said:

S3 makes there own bushings or has someone make them for them. I will be giving Garage Products a call to see if they make them for the S3 arms.  I have friends that use there bushings with good results. 

I will not be anywhere near $16-18K into my car.  Sounds like your friend paid full retail and a lot in labor chargers.

This new car I am going a little nuts with the cage (doors, window nets, roof rack, and spare tire carrier) and that will be the biggest cost. Second biggest cost is the shock work.   I would guess if you tallied up it would be in the $6K range or more.  It is hard to calculate as there is stuff on the new car I do not need and will be selling to off-set the cost.  

 

 

$6K I will be that deep in mine before the first dune trip. No cage, No seats.

Almost $2K in tick tack stuff so far easy. Mirrors, Misc Hangers(Helmet, Flag,Antenna), Four Point Belts, Bags, Chase bar, pumper and helmet, lower doors and the mount for the radio I switched over.

over $2K in paddles and rims, what a joy it was trying to find rims let me tell you.  Plus I hope my name gets to the top of the paddle list before October comes around.

Next up is the gusset kit and double shear stuff for the back, so that will be another $1K installed

and last will be the suspension work by MTS.

 

 

Better stop typing and get to work need more money and time in a hurry.

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2 minutes ago, MWB said:

$6K I will be that deep in mine before the first dune trip. No cage, No seats.

Almost $2K in tick tack stuff so far easy. Mirrors, Misc Hangers(Helmet, Flag,Antenna), Four Point Belts, Bags, Chase bar, pumper and helmet, lower doors and the mount for the radio I switched over.

over $2K in paddles and rims, what a joy it was trying to find rims let me tell you.  Plus I hope my name gets to the top of the paddle list before October comes around.

Next up is the gusset kit and double shear stuff for the back, so that will be another $1K installed

and last will be the suspension work by MTS.

 

 

Better stop typing and get to work need more money and time in a hurry.

LOL!   It adds up quickly.   I have been fortunate enough to score some deals on parts through sales and hook ups.   The only reason I am going a little more nuts on this car is that some parts transferred over and selling parts I will not be using will off-set the cost.  

TMW recently had a sell over 4th of July and that is when I bought their gusset kit, my bumper and radius rod plate.

If your looking for a Pumper set up I will be selling my Rugged Radio Mac Air.  

When did you get a Can Am X3?  Congrats!!!!!

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7 minutes ago, Sand Shark said:

LOL!   It adds up quickly.   I have been fortunate enough to score some deals on parts through sales and hook ups.   The only reason I am going a little more nuts on this car is that some parts transferred over and selling parts I will not be using will off-set the cost.  

TMW recently had a sell over 4th of July and that is when I bought their gusset kit, my bumper and radius rod plate.

If your looking for a Pumper set up I will be selling my Rugged Radio Mac Air.  

When did you get a Can Am X3?  Congrats!!!!!

Picked up the X3 about the time the board went boom,

Pumper set up is in and done.

Missed the TMW sale, had I known I would of stopped by. I drive by there all the time, so far just have not had a free moment with cash in pocket ( always best for the best deal possible). It is on the list to do this week though.

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Picked up my shocks from Tom Morris at UTV Shocks yesterday.  Super quick turn around as they were done over the weekend.  

Probably start tearing the car down this weekend.   

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Roughly what does Tom charge to do the valving and springs for a set of 4?

Is there any machining or parts changing ? 

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On 8/5/2021 at 7:15 PM, NIKAL said:

Roughly what does Tom charge to do the valving and springs for a set of 4?

Is there any machining or parts changing ? 

He charges $2500.  Springs, valving, internal bypass tube work (he was the first do this on the X3 and in fact probably knows more about internal bypass shocks than just about anyone), he machines some parts and some welding as well.   Here is a list of what they do:

http://utvshocks.com/xrs-shock-mods.html

He is super cool dude.   He has been around a long time.  He was part of PPI and helped out with Ivan Stewart's race program and a few others. His partner Gary Fries has been around a long time too.  I met Gary many years ago back in the Rhino days through another friend.

 

    

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Finally got motivated and  started working on my X3.  I removed all rear stock rear suspension yesterday.  Put my Super ATV trailing arms, Cognito Motorsports radius rods, TMW pull plate, ZRP trailing arm braces and some Rock Knockers rock guards.

That TMW radius rod plate is good times when you are doing it by yourself. Fortunately is had all the radius rods off the rear hub so it made it a little better.  TMW makes quality stuff and never disappoints.

Only thing that gave me some fits was the ZRP brace on the drivers side. It did not want to line up and had to fight with it.  Not sure why as the other side went on no problem.  I was not sure if the ZRP braced and the Rock Knockers would play nice with each other due to how the Rock Knockers use the swaybar mount.  I took a chance and bought them anyway.  I was happy to find out the braces work fine with the Rock Knockers.

Long day, but making progress. Next up will be the front end.  That will be a lot more work as I went with a TMW gusset kit, which requires a lot more work than the HMF kit I used on my last X3.  

 

 

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