Just because you did not have a bad experience doesn't mean the people who did should be quiet about there's. Ask yourself this had you known what you have heard would you of left him a stack of hundred dollar bills for your numerous builds as easily as you did.
Nobody has said the guy doesn't know a thing or two they are just saying 20 people have called it a duck and if you want to walk up and check for webbed feet be our guest but don't turn around and say yep it was a duck
I also hope that the RzR shocks that you have were not financed by some guy in Mid-Ohio that is still checking the mail everyday waiting on his to arrive, If history tells us nothing that is or will be what happens to somebody at the end of this story.
By all meens...If you lost something dealing with Justin.. Lets hear it! but most likely you never did like many posters yet take the time to jump on the bash wagon because its such a fun ride and all. And I'm sure that all of us that feel that we are all great people today have never f#$ked up in our lifetime. Arguable at least but It is a possibility that people have the ability to change for the better. At the end of the day...Justin has had many car builds and paperless cash deals as opportunities to take me to the cleaners but ....has not. I have not ever been screwed by the guy regardless and unless he does jack me... I'll post my posatives just like you will post your negatives..I'm not saying you or anyone is wrong or right...But this is my experience 100% and not a spin off of someone elses bash that was a spinoff of another rumor etc...
And whats this missing shock storey all about? First of all....UPS and FedEx are perfect in everyway...Right??? By the way those shocks your referring to did eventually get recovered from the shipping Co. I personally spoke to Justin about this when it happened.
OK. Yes, we lost something dealing with Justin. In 2004 we bought the above mentioned Flame Car from Chuck at Dunebuggy.com for $72,000. It was common knowledge that Justin built that car and it was a great car. My wife ran that car for the next three seasons and during that time we ran into Justin at the dunes several times and he was always very nice, pleasant to talk with and seemed like a real good guy. Our last dune season was winter 2006-07. We moved out of Arizona in 04-2007 but had the buggy in a 24 foot enclosed Racer trailer in storage in Yuma. We decided to sell the buggy and trailer since we no longer were using them.
Since Justin was the original builder of the car we figured he knew the car like nobody else. I phoned him and asked if he could service the car so we could sell it. He said he could. I explained that we intended to sell the car and asked if he ever took cars on consignment. I asked what kind of percentage he would ask to sell our car. He told me if he was able to sell it we could give him a few hundred bucks and it would be good. We made a Hand Shake deal, with me figuring Justin was an honorable man.
So in February 2008 I left the buggy and trailer with Justin at his shop. I also left with Justin locks and keys for the ramp door, side door and tongue lock. Justin told me that after he serviced the car he was going to take the buggy and trailer to his own house because it would be safer there.
I then left to drive back to Tennessee. Shortly after I left Justin phoned me and asked if it would be alright for him to take the car to some regatta at GW or Buttercup the following weekend. He said he wanted to try out a new lightbar on it and maybe find a buyer. I told him, "Sure, No problem."
So anyway, about a week later I get a call from Justin and he tells me the cost for the servicing he did came to $1,700. I send him a check. Over the next several months I contact Justin periodically to find out if he has found a buyer. Then in May 2008 I get a call from Justin, saying he has found a buyer and asks me to send him the title for the trailer so he can close the deal with this "buyer" ASAP. The car was never registered in Arizona so there was no title for the car. So, still believing Justin is a stand up guy, I sign the trailer title and send it to him. But then I don't hear back from Justin. I called Justin back a few days later and for some odd reason the guy backed out of the deal.
For the next few months I kept checking back with Justin to see if he is having any luck selling the car and trailer, with negative results.
So, fast forward to August 21, 2008. My daughter calls me to advise me that she read that Justin's shop has been closed and locked. I called Justin to find out what was going on and check the status of our car and trailer. Justin told me , "a lot of stuff had been happening around there the last couple day but our car and trailer were safe and secure. A short time later Doug, KG called me and offered to go pick up our car and trailer from Justin. So I called Justin back and told him Doug would be coming to get our car and trailer. It is at this point that Justin drops the bomb. "Oh, I didn't realize when I talked to you earlier but your car and trailer were stolen from my shop. I asked Justin how that could be since he had told me that the car and trailer were being kept at his house because it was safer there. He said, "too many people knew where I lived so I brought your car and trailer to my shop." I asked him how some one could steal the trailer with the tongue lock securing it. He said, Oh, I must have forgotten to put the tongue lock on." I then asked about the signed trailer title that I had sent him in May. His answer? He had put the title under the cushion of the drivers seat of the buggy.
Only Justin knows exactly what ever happened to our car and trailer. I now suspect that Justin did, in fact, have a buyer for the car and trailer in May of 2008 when he requested the signed title to the trailer. I now suspect that he sold the car and trailer and pocketed the money, knowing that I had no recourse. I further suspect that had I not called Justin back on 8-21-08 to tell him Doug was coming to get our car and trailer he would have kept stringing me along, thinking he was still trying to find a buyer for our car and trailer. Obviously, none of this can be proven or Justin would be in Jail right now.
So there. That is the story of my dealing with Justin Smith.
So dunecritter, go ahead and ask Justin just exactly, what did ever happen to our car and trailer.