AG and Subaru Engines

[Big Jim]

Hi GD , I have a couple questions.

1-Are the AG Next Generation , Sand Rails good cars?

2-What to look out for in a Subaru motor before buying?

3-There are different types of blocks for the 2.5. Are the STI good?

 

[Dune-Track-N]

AG had and still builds quality cars. The J-arm is fairly unique to his design from the traditional a-arm. They did/do have some weak points overtime/abuse but similar to all the other builders out there.

@John@Outfront for Subi info. In general the differences are based on HP, fueling, cooling options.

 

[Stinky]

I.d rather run a:
GM Ecotec or 4.3
Honda 3.5 V6
Honda 4 cyl
Nissan
Not in that order

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

I.d rather run a:
GM Ecotec or 4.3
Honda 3.5 V6
Honda 4 cyl
Nissan
Not in that order

Not to poo on the subi guy's parade, but it makes ZERO sense to me to spend $10k on an engine, $10 a gallon on race fuel to make 300hp, and then have to deal with turbo lag.

$1000 on a stock NA J35, pump gas, 300HP and GO!

 

[BaBaBouy]

The Subaru power plant is a proven platform in the dunes. As a generalization Subi motors are happiest when paired with an experienced driver and lighter car / passenger weight.
Some of the fastest / “quickest” cars in the dunes are powered by Subarus.
A novice or non-aggressive driver that is hesitant to keep a motor up in the sweet spot in the RPMs is going to have a problem with the lack of torque at low speeds especially when driving a 4 seat car filled with people.
I’ve had multiple cars with multiple power plants, my two seat HRT with the big (6 cylinder) Subi from John @ Outfront was the only cat that could scare the sh*t out of me.
The answer to your question lies more with your driving ability and the size and weight (including passengers) of your car, you don’t see to many Porsches with a trailer hitch on the back.

 

[rivermobster]

The Subaru power plant is a proven platform in the dunes. As a generalization Subi motors are happiest when paired with an experienced driver and lighter car / passenger weight.
Some of the fastest / “quickest” cars in the dunes are powered by Subarus.
A novice or non-aggressive driver that is hesitant to keep a motor up in the sweet spot in the RPMs is going to have a problem with the lack of torque at low speeds especially when driving a 4 seat car filled with people.
I’ve had multiple cars with multiple power plants, my two seat HRT with the big (6 cylinder) Subi from John @ Outfront was the only cat that could scare the sh*t out of me.
The answer to your question lies more with your driving ability and the size and weight (including passengers) of your car, you don’t see to many Porsches with a trailer hitch on the back.

Facts.

 

[SLAYERMARQUEZ]

The Subaru power plant is a proven platform in the dunes. As a generalization Subi motors are happiest when paired with an experienced driver and lighter car / passenger weight.
Some of the fastest / “quickest” cars in the dunes are powered by Subarus.
A novice or non-aggressive driver that is hesitant to keep a motor up in the sweet spot in the RPMs is going to have a problem with the lack of torque at low speeds especially when driving a 4 seat car filled with people.
I’ve had multiple cars with multiple power plants, my two seat HRT with the big (6 cylinder) Subi from John @ Outfront was the only cat that could scare the sh*t out of me.
The answer to your question lies more with your driving ability and the size and weight (including passengers) of your car, you don’t see to many Porsches with a trailer hitch on the back.

I don't mean to derail the thread, but do you have a picture of this two seat HRT? Was it yellow?


Also, I would like to add that I am on my second subi powered sand car and I do like the powerplant. I had a 2 seat Sandlimo and now a 4 seat SU Ultralite. I have not had any issues with the engines on both cars. I do over maintenance my sand cars but i would rather pay for oil and filters than have to rebuild a subi engine that's for sure. Stay up in the RPMs and let that turbo sing. Reach out to John at Outfront motorsports like others on here have said. He'll get the info you're looking for. He's been very helpful from my experience

 

[BaBaBouy]

I don't mean to derail the thread, but do you have a picture of this two seat HRT? Was it yellow?


Also, I would like to add that I am on my second subi powered sand car and I do like the powerplant. I had a 2 seat Sandlimo and now a 4 seat SU Ultralite. I have not had any issues with the engines on both cars. I do over maintenance my sand cars but i would rather pay for oil and filters than have to rebuild a subi engine that's for sure. Stay up in the RPMs and let that turbo sing. Reach out to John at Outfront motorsports like others on here have said. He'll get the info you're looking for. He's been very helpful from my experience

Yep, yellow.

2012 HRT Motorsports Sandcar

2012 HRT Motorsports Sandrail Engine: Subaru 3.0 turbocharged 6 cyl Z30 engine running on E85 504 RWHP/428 ftlb torque running 12lb intercooled boost (Dyno sheet attached) Transaxle: PBS Engineering Transaxle (PS-4) Sequential shift R&P 5.43/1, 1st: 2.91, 2nd: 2.21, 3rd: 1.75, 4th: 1.37 PBS...

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[SLAYERMARQUEZ]

Yep, yellow.

2012 HRT Motorsports Sandcar

2012 HRT Motorsports Sandrail Engine: Subaru 3.0 turbocharged 6 cyl Z30 engine running on E85 504 RWHP/428 ftlb torque running 12lb intercooled boost (Dyno sheet attached) Transaxle: PBS Engineering Transaxle (PS-4) Sequential shift R&P 5.43/1, 1st: 2.91, 2nd: 2.21, 3rd: 1.75, 4th: 1.37 PBS...

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Yup. That’s the one I want next. If I sell my current car soon I’ll be giving Lance a call