Kawasaki released the Teryx 4 H2 today! 250HP

[megadesertdiesel]

It's difficult to get anything to feel the same in the hard pack vs. sand.

When I bought sand tires for my quad, I told Joe @ Fullerton Sand Sports, that I wanted my quad to handle the same in the sand, as it does on the hard pack. He pretty much just laughed at me!

When I told him I was serious...

He said, ok, but it won't be cheap!!!

And he was right, it wasn't cheap at all.

But it worked, and worked well. I was stoked with the results.

Getting sand tires done right is a science and an art most people won't get.

My other quad has some cheese ball sand tires and it pretty much sucks in the sand.

Where would one go these days to find the kinna knowledge Joe had?

for sure, Most people think they spent 3k on a set of tires and they are the best ever!. They have never tried anything else to compare to, but if they spent all that money it surely is the best because the sales guy told them so.

 

[NIKAL]

The other day I got to take another look at the H2. I started looking around it to see what else I could find, or go back and look at a few things in more detail. I noticed a part number on the coil springs. I’ve never seen where a coil spring has a Fox Shocks part number on it. Seeing what looks to be a Fox part number has me thinking that Fox must be supplying the shock & coil spring package to Kawasaki? It’s my understanding that the other brands only buy the shock from Fox and have their own spring suppliers. If true and if Fox is supplying the stock Kawasaki springs, I wonder what the quality is vs the other brands OEM springs? Better, same or worse? Will they sag in a 1000 miles too? I do know the smart shock module on the Kawasaki H2 is supplied by Fox as I showed a picture of the H2 big & redesigned driveshaft carrier bearing to a Fox employee and you could see the Made in Germany module in the picture. It was pointed out to me that is part of the Smart Shock package and Fox supplies it.

Fox part numbers on the front & rear coils.


Next thing I wanted to look at again was the brakes and how much room there was to fit a 15 inch wheel and why a +1 or +2 offset is needed. The fronts I don’t see an issue, but that caliper is going to get tight with a 15 inch wheel. But there is room to clear it. But I could see a rock getting stuck between the caliper & wheel and possibly gouging or tearing up a 15 inch wheel. Probably not as likely on a front wheel as on a rear.


The rear definitely looks like more of the issue. They have a rock scraper mounted on the back side of the arm and should be removed anyways, and will need to be to clear a 15 inch wheel. But the front side trailing arm guard is really close with the 16 inch wheel, and it’s been said it definitely needs to be removed or cut to fit a 15 inch wheel. But I’m also wondering if the other issue is just the trailing arm design won’t let a 0 offset wheel to clear it, and that’s the main reason you need a + offset? Here is a picture of the plastic trailing arm guard cover and inner wheel. It’s hard to understand what you’re looking at in the picture until till you see it for yourself. But I’m betting this is the area that does not allow a 0 offset wheel to fit on the H2.


I mentioned the driveshaft carrier bearing. This is looking in the tunnel in the rear seat floor area. This carrier and U-joints are quite large, and I’m told this is a revised design part after Carson Wernimont raced his Kawi H2 concept at the Mint 400 back in March. Carson broke a driveshaft and I’m told whatever caused the failure was fixed and this drive shaft & carrier was implemented in the production unit.



Under the rear seat on the right side is an empty spot. RPM told me they are working on a Aux fuel tank to fit in that spot. I’m not sure how much OEM plastics they are removing or trimming, but they estimated after scanning the area they should be able to make a 8 gallon aux transfer tank. Add that to the stock 15 gal tank and a total of 23 gallons should be good.

 

[Toy Collector]

It's difficult to get anything to feel the same in the hard pack vs. sand.

When I bought sand tires for my quad, I told Joe @ Fullerton Sand Sports, that I wanted my quad to handle the same in the sand, as it does on the hard pack. He pretty much just laughed at me!

When I told him I was serious...

He said, ok, but it won't be cheap!!!

And he was right, it wasn't cheap at all.

But it worked, and worked well. I was stoked with the results.

Getting sand tires done right is a science and an art most people won't get.

My other quad has some cheese ball sand tires and it pretty much sucks in the sand.

Where would one go these days to find the kinna knowledge Joe had?

From a Quad standpoint (and not to get too off topic), that's why God invented Sand Skate II's. Nothing compares, in my mind.

 

[rivermobster]

From a Quad standpoint (and not to get too off topic), that's why God invented Sand Skate II's. Nothing compares, in my mind.

Joe took mine and buffed em, them put em on a wide azz super light wheel.

Yeah, they work...

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

The other day I got to take another look at the H2. I started looking around it to see what else I could find, or go back and look at a few things in more detail. I noticed a part number on the coil springs. I’ve never seen where a coil spring has a Fox Shocks part number on it. Seeing what looks to be a Fox part number has me thinking that Fox must be supplying the shock & coil spring package to Kawasaki? It’s my understanding that the other brands only buy the shock from Fox and have their own spring suppliers. If true and if Fox is supplying the stock Kawasaki springs, I wonder what the quality is vs the other brands OEM springs? Better, same or worse? Will they sag in a 1000 miles too? I do know the smart shock module on the Kawasaki H2 is supplied by Fox as I showed a picture of the H2 big & redesigned driveshaft carrier bearing to a Fox employee and you could see the Made in Germany module in the picture. It was pointed out to me that is part of the Smart Shock package and Fox supplies it.

Fox part numbers on the front & rear coils.
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A guy that I used to dune with worked for Eibach. He made it out like they made springs for just about everyone.

Could be they are just custom labeled Eibach units.

 

[NIKAL]

A guy that I used to dune with worked for Eibach. He made it out like they made springs for just about everyone.

Could be they are just custom labeled Eibach units.

I’d be shocked if these are Eibach springs. Most OEM UTV springs are made in China or Asia and that’s why within 1000 miles of use they are sagged out. I do know CFMoto on the soon to be released Z10 was expected to come with Eibach’s but with the release delay, who knows if that’s still the case? But no UTV OEM I know of has ever come with a high quality coil shock spring.

 

[Sand Shark]

The other day I got to take another look at the H2. I started looking around it to see what else I could find, or go back and look at a few things in more detail. I noticed a part number on the coil springs. I’ve never seen where a coil spring has a Fox Shocks part number on it. Seeing what looks to be a Fox part number has me thinking that Fox must be supplying the shock & coil spring package to Kawasaki? It’s my understanding that the other brands only buy the shock from Fox and have their own spring suppliers. If true and if Fox is supplying the stock Kawasaki springs, I wonder what the quality is vs the other brands OEM springs? Better, same or worse? Will they sag in a 1000 miles too? I do know the smart shock module on the Kawasaki H2 is supplied by Fox as I showed a picture of the H2 big & redesigned driveshaft carrier bearing to a Fox employee and you could see the Made in Germany module in the picture. It was pointed out to me that is part of the Smart Shock package and Fox supplies it.

Fox part numbers on the front & rear coils.
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Next thing I wanted to look at again was the brakes and how much room there was to fit a 15 inch wheel and why a +1 or +2 offset is needed. The fronts I don’t see an issue, but that caliper is going to get tight with a 15 inch wheel. But there is room to clear it. But I could see a rock getting stuck between the caliper & wheel and possibly gouging or tearing up a 15 inch wheel. Probably not as likely on a front wheel as on a rear.
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The rear definitely looks like more of the issue. They have a rock scraper mounted on the back side of the arm and should be removed anyways, and will need to be to clear a 15 inch wheel. But the front side trailing arm guard is really close with the 16 inch wheel, and it’s been said it definitely needs to be removed or cut to fit a 15 inch wheel. But I’m also wondering if the other issue is just the trailing arm design won’t let a 0 offset wheel to clear it, and that’s the main reason you need a + offset? Here is a picture of the plastic trailing arm guard cover and inner wheel. It’s hard to understand what you’re looking at in the picture until till you see it for yourself. But I’m betting this is the area that does not allow a 0 offset wheel to fit on the H2.
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I mentioned the driveshaft carrier bearing. This is looking in the tunnel in the rear seat floor area. This carrier and U-joints are quite large, and I’m told this is a revised design part after Carson Wernimont raced his Kawi H2 concept at the Mint 400 back in March. Carson broke a driveshaft and I’m told whatever caused the failure was fixed and this drive shaft & carrier was implemented in the production unit.

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Under the rear seat on the right side is an empty spot. RPM told me they are working on a Aux fuel tank to fit in that spot. I’m not sure how much OEM plastics they are removing or trimming, but they estimated after scanning the area they should be able to make a 8 gallon aux transfer tank. Add that to the stock 15 gal tank and a total of 23 gallons should be good.
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Good stuff. The question is who supplies the springs to Fox.

I have not read anything about fuel economy, but an extra 8 gallons would be nice.

 

[NIKAL]

Good stuff. The question is who supplies the springs to Fox.

I have not read anything about fuel economy, but an extra 8 gallons would be nice.

If the springs are truly supplied by Fox, I’m sure it’s an Asia manufacturer. But the question is, are they of better quality then what we are used to seeing? The next and obvious one is the spring rates. We all know none of the factory’s go with the perfect or best spring rates for our wants or desires. I did ask Schmitty shock tuning, as he’s been the first to really dive into these H2 shocks. He said his spring package spring rates are different from OEM, but that the stock rates were not as far off as most of the other brands stock springs. He said the front shock inner bypass can is pretty good, but the rear, the bypass holes were pretty far off and he was able to make big gains in changing out the inner bypass can with bleed holes in other positions and he said it’s worth the effort and cost to switch out.

I’ve heard in full power mode it drinks fuel like the Pro R. But a sales rep for Kawasaki said it does much better in the 80% power mode, and he felt for most flat ground hard pack desert riding, the 80% mode was the best setting to be in, and you gain much better fuel range.