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I wouldn’t slap a Montana plate on a buggy and think you are all of a sudden street legal, if you are in California. For Californians I think the idea is to register this way and keep your head down so no one notices what you are doing. I know a few people that have done it and it has worked out well for them. No sales tax on purchase and no yearly Reg fees for trailers.

22 hours ago, wesinls said:

Drove back from G after being there since Monday. Great trip!

You drove by us a couple of times. That car sounds awesome.

Got new tires so the old ones gotta go. The paddles are chunked to chit. These are only good for someone in desperate need. I’m on Gecko till Saturday, then they hit the trash cans. It’d be cool if I got a couple 36 packs of coors light for them, but not really sweating it.

I called and asked. They told me that if I go to the analog meter it will be a digital meter that will store the time of use info. 🤡🤡

I don’t really see that being the case but who knows? Anybody got a pic of an current “analog” meter?

52 minutes ago, Surf and Dune said:

 Wow, what a stretch huh? I brought up the issue of private companies requiring masks and vaccines during a discussion about Gov mandates.  I guess in your world Joy, its cool to make chit up if it fits your agenda. You were wrong to say I supported vaccine mandates cause I never have and repeatedly said so.  

Stop back pedaling Mitt. 

What’s to defend? We were talking about government control and you started talking about the rights of private business owners. 

51 minutes ago, Surf and Dune said:

 Since you insist on making chit up, here's what I actually said. How you can get that "I firmly believed in allowing government mandates" out of my comments is beyond me. I only made the argument  that private business owners should be able to require them ( I wouldn't nor did I btw). As far as your last comment about me questioning that members integrity, please find it and post it because your again full of chit. Your like the Joy Reid of GD.com.

1. While I don't think the government should be able to mandate getting vaxed at this time, I have absolutely no problem with any private business determining their own policy for their employees or customers whether is requiring masks or being vaxed. The reality is that NOBODY knows for sure what the best course of action is right now. Half the country will go lock step with what the government says, about a quarter will do the opposite and trust the Alex Jones, Joe Rogans, and any other podcast or religious character that says what they want to hear,  and the other 25% will try to make their own educated decision as to what's best for themselves based on the most credible, non emotional, evidence they can find.

 Either way, I'm amazed at how many "conservatives" think that their right to not being forced into something is more important than another persons right to make their own rules in a business that they own. Don't want to wear a mask in a store or restaurant, then go to one that doesn't require them. Pretty simple concept. What really gets me is people like a few of my friends that never had a problem putting stuff in their bodies to get high, get buff, or puff on those dumbass vapes, that they had no idea where it came from or what's really in it, yet are the loudest anti vaxers. Crazy world we live in.

2. " But if you are an employee at a private business that doesn't feel comfortable with the owners rules, then you could always quit and look for a job elsewhere no? Or using your argument, would an employee be responsible if they gave someone at work Covid ? (playing devils advocate here,) My point is that nobody has a "right" to a job, housing, access to a private business etc. Don't like the rules, quit, unless you think like the AOCs and Pelosis of the world and feel everyone is owed something."

3."Guys, I'm playing devils advocate here. I personally don't give a eff if people get vaxed or not. My wife is a nurse who comes in contact with Covid patients almost every shift ,and  I am a general contractor that never missed a day of work through this whole chit show. For us, after waiting 6 months or so to see what did or didn't happen to vaxed people, it made sense for us. I don't think that the government should mandate any meds, but just as importantly, I think that anyone that puts their balls on the line and starts a business should be able to set rules that they see fit for their business. The idea that so many supposed conservatives around here feel differently is mind blowing to me. A bunch of you are way more liberal that you want to admit. If you don't respect a private business persons right to run their business the way they want, then you are saying that you want the government to force them they way they see fit. How is it so few of you understand that?"

4.Not everywhere, yet. What I am responding to are those that want a private business owner to acquiesce to the supposed rights that people think they have in said business. I treat most private business's like someone's home. I don't have a right to behave anyway I want in someone else's home, nor do I in their business. I have said multiple times the Government shouldn't mandate it. 

5. I agree for the most part, but there are a few restaurants that I know of that kept their "new rules" to the maximum even after the government relaxed them. 2 examples, one a Mexican restaurant, and one sushi. In both cases, the owners told me that they had lost mothers/fathers etc to Covid, and they felt in their hearts that they did not want to expose their employees to customers the way they used to. They also told their employees that they had to get vaccinated for the same reasons. They did not want any of their employees taking Covid back home and infecting their families. Now I'm not going to argue whether they are right or wrong, my point is that they should have the RIGHT to make that decision, no?

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I wonder why more people don't talk more about the fact that almost 75% of deaths related to Covid are from obese people. The reality, is that if you cant see your junk without the aid of a mirror, then you are also a big (pun intended) reason why we are in this mess. 

 

 

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Mitt

NO one was talking about the rights of private business owners.

Joy Reid, haha. That’s funny. Are you in competition with Mitt Romney to become the #1 rino in the country? I think you’ll beat him and take the title.

1 hour ago, dbart said:

With regards to the abortion people....

Have you seen them? Are these women really having sex?

And if so, I don't think they should become parents to begin with with that type of thinking!

This is always a touchy subject and one I fall right in the middle of...so with that, I'm no good in an argument.

My Christian beliefs and upbringing fight for the right of the unborn child...yet, I know there are circumstances that warrant one, Medically there is a danger to the Mother, Rape, molestation, etc...

However, to use it as a form of birth control is absurd and sad I think!

Spend a Nickle, cover your Pickle!

 

Lot of wisdom here. The extremes on both sides are the problem with this. To say that it should be allowed at any time for any reason is ridiculous. But just as crazy is saying no way, no how, no matter what it can never occur.

50 minutes ago, Surf and Dune said:

 The topic was 23 pages long and there was alot of things discussed regarding Gov mandates, the actual vaccines, Fauci, Ivermectin, etc. It seemed an obvious extension to discuss private companies having their own "mandates" so I brought up an example where a PRIVATE employer might require their employee to get vaxed.  Its known as an analogy. 

analogy

noun [ C or U ]

 

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 /əˈnæl.ə.dʒi/ UK 

 

 /əˈnæl.ə.dʒi/

 

 

C2

a comparison between things that have similar features, often used to help explain a principle or idea:

He drew an analogy 

Yes, the condescension has always been strong with you.

No, you did not just use it as an analogy in one post of a 23 page topic. You firmly believed and argued that the mandates should be allowed. You just tried to suggest that if a business owner was mandating it then they should be followed. But you refused to acknowledge and discuss that most of those business owners were ONLY enforcing those mandates under threat of heavy fine, or worse, from the government. 

You even went so far as to question the integrity of a longtime board member who lost his father to the vaccine. Low class for sure. 

You might like off roading, and I'm sure your for lower taxes, but Empire231 is right, you're basically a leftist.

8 minutes ago, Surf and Dune said:

 If the government was forcing a private employer to get their employees vaxed then I was against it. Not sure what you mean about being unwilling to discuss that point. I've never been shy to discuss anything as long as its a respectful debate. I'm consistent. Keep government out of our lives whenever and wherever possible. Wanting the government involved in the most emotional, personal matter that a human could possibly have makes no sense to me. 

The entire thread was about the mandates and how ridiculous they were. You showed up to the party and told some story about an old couple that owns a restaurant wanting to make their employees wear masks because they were afraid of covid. That's not what the discussion was about and you simply refused, or couldn't comprehend, that the conversation was about the government forcing businesses to force employees to comply. 

1 minute ago, Surf and Dune said:

 I have never supported government vaccine mandates. I made the argument that PRIVATE employers should have the right to set the rules that their employees must follow, and if they don't like them they can always look for another job. Not sure why your having a hard time differentiating between private and government policies?? 

Because a SIGNIFICANT number of those private businesses were FORCED to do that by the government. Sure, maybe you know of a couple of them where the owners fell for the Covid scamdemic and wanted to implement those practices on their own. But you were completely unwilling to discuss the fact that the government was FORCING businesses to comply with the mandates under threat of heavy fines and in some cases even worse. 

Any update on this? I am in the same boat as well and have become quite accustomed to not giving a flying eff about when and how much power I use due to my solar panels. It will suck to have to go back to worrying about thermostat settings. Which reminds me, it's November, I should go turn off my AC.

1 minute ago, AZCG said:

The bigger issue/fight, once we win, will be the person that shares the one $2 winning ticket here, then the 'losers' that spent $10 or $20 instead of $2 want 5x to 10x more than the person that actually bought the winning $2 ticket.  "Shares Bro!  I spent $20, you only spent $2. I get $83 million, you get $8.3 million."

This is my understanding of what we are doing. Each line purchased is a share. 
 

Since we are getting technical the thread should be locked at drawing time so that posts can’t be edited after the drawing.

in it to win it.

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If they are coming from San Diego I've seen them at the Golden Acorn and at least one of the gas stations in Jacumba.

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2 hours ago, Bobalos said:

 

I go up the 111 to avoid any kind of hinkyness on the 115.  just seems like 2 lanes > 1 Lane...

 

Those stop lights bug me, but that’s the way I’ll be going for a while I guess.

Oh. And Eastbound 8 out of San Diego at the bottom of the mountain was down to one lane this morning. That may not be long term as it looked like a bunch of rocks fell from the rain storm a few weeks ago. 

But now I’m sitting on the 115 northbound between Evan Hughes and the 78 and guess what’s happening. That’s right, down to one lane for construction. 
Good times.

1 hour ago, Crusty said:

If I had to sit in traffic getting somewhere....that's the best place to be sitting in traffic.

 

At least when most folks leave on Sunday, it should be business as normal. 

Camp rzr Sunday has traditionally been a nightmare getting to the 78 from any of the washes. This Sunday will be a nightmare.

I put 3 one gallons under my passenger seat with a line over to the drivers seat where the compressor is.

8 minutes ago, Bansh88 said:

The Penguin, Illinois Nazis, "we play both kinds of music: country AND western", an earthquake, locusts....

You are high.  Go back to bed.  

 

 

 

 

 

We are on a mission from God.

18 minutes ago, Grease Monkey said:

What's a Padre?

Something that beats a dodger.