Sandkist Posted November 22, 2023 Member ID: 338 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,297 Content Per Day: 2.11 Reputation: 474 Achievement Points: 12,356 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: iPhone Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) $300,000 coach will do most everything that the $600,000 coach will do just with less style and goodies. Is the extra $300K worth it? Really nice motorhome only or very nice motorhome, Funco and cash in the bank Edited November 22, 2023 by Sandkist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobalos Posted November 22, 2023 Member ID: 107 Group: Foreman Followers: 1 Topic Count: 297 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5,151 Content Per Day: 4.73 Reputation: 4,351 Achievement Points: 56,882 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 41 minutes ago Birthday: 12/25/1896 Device: Android Share Posted November 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, Sandkist said: $60,000 coach will do most everything that the $600,000 coach will do just with less style and goodies. Is the extra $300K worth it? Really nice motorhome only or very nice motorhome, Funco and cash in the bank IMO.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobalos Posted November 22, 2023 Member ID: 107 Group: Foreman Followers: 1 Topic Count: 297 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5,151 Content Per Day: 4.73 Reputation: 4,351 Achievement Points: 56,882 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 41 minutes ago Birthday: 12/25/1896 Device: Android Share Posted November 22, 2023 shoot with that kind of savings, store it on RR estates in the VIP section..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1newbie Posted November 22, 2023 Member ID: 197 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 398 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 290 Achievement Points: 2,749 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 4 Device: Android Share Posted November 22, 2023 The last of my $.02. The toy market is getting softer by the minute. That goes for autos, boats, trucks, SxS's, heavy equipment. Almost everything other than housing in certain markets. Right now interest rates are still stupid high and people desperately clinging to the memory of 'Covid' prices. 1) If you REALLY want a new moho; wait 8 months. Interest rates will be 2%+ lower AND prices will be slashed as dealers hold inventory and people get desperate for $. Remember the days of the good old 'fire sale'? 2) A Renegade pulls 10x better than a rear engine coach. 3) I was shopping for a Renegade classic in late '19/early '20 and they were $480k ish new with great financing. During covid, I think they went to $600k-$650k for the same basic coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esco Posted November 22, 2023 Member ID: 73 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 9,021 Content Per Day: 8.28 Reputation: 5,091 Achievement Points: 56,046 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 55 Joined: 05/04/2021 Status: Online Last Seen: 8 minutes ago Device: Windows Share Posted November 22, 2023 you think yore having fun with a 240hp sxs step up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator SandTrap Posted November 22, 2023 Member ID: 7 Group: Forum Moderator Followers: 1 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 2,633 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 1,086 Achievement Points: 20,019 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 04/30/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 05/09/1971 Device: Windows Forum Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 If you want it get it and go live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator ChEFF Posted November 23, 2023 Member ID: 30 Group: Forum Moderator Followers: 0 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 10,325 Content Per Day: 9.46 Reputation: 6,240 Achievement Points: 66,605 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 82 Joined: 05/01/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:32 PM Device: Windows Author Forum Moderator Share Posted November 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Grant@Funco said: drop it back a notch to a London aire and use the balance for a gtu 2 seater 👋👋 You're definitely in the equation. Peace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chummin Posted November 23, 2023 Member ID: 2,238 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 219 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 450 Achievement Points: 1,956 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/30/2022 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 24 Device: iPhone Share Posted November 23, 2023 What happened to that rig an hour from you that was 300ish? That was amazing!!! should be ready by now. Just got off the phone with our accountant, gave us the thumbs up on a new 2023 model SUV for the Corp. I blame you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1tonfun Posted November 23, 2023 Member ID: 96 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 201 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 216 Achievement Points: 1,265 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 05:12 AM Device: Windows Share Posted November 23, 2023 Showed my wife a nice pusher then the renagade. She picked the renegade because of the engine up from. Said it makes her feel safer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Excess Posted November 23, 2023 Member ID: 928 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 176 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 196 Achievement Points: 1,372 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Device: iPhone Share Posted November 23, 2023 I like the renegades, that’s probably why I got one. Tomorrow will be the first time towing a trailer with it, hopefully it performs as promised. 600hp and dt12 trans. I think the renegade type coach will do a superior job over a diesel pusher any day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunelover Posted November 23, 2023 Member ID: 436 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 133 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 134 Achievement Points: 1,382 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 04:37 AM Device: Windows Share Posted November 23, 2023 Newmar builds a great coach. The King Air is the only product they make they classify as a bus. I've driven one any they are incredibly solid. The "Comfort Drive" steering (licensed from Newell) is the way to go. I'm sure you did your research and know the specs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockmaster Posted November 23, 2023 Member ID: 161 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 764 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 601 Achievement Points: 5,554 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 hours ago Device: Macintosh Share Posted November 23, 2023 They say in a Class A, “if you get in a collision YOU are the first on the scene.” Nothing but a windshield between you and the rest of the crazy drivers out there. Yes, RV accidents are rare as compared to standard auto accidents. And having the mass of an engine and the vehicle frame in front of you is no guarantee but it helps my piece of mind. I bought a brand new 2022 Renegade Verona and paid less than half the asking price of that Newmar. It’s not as fancy or as plush but it is very comfortable and well appointed. It is fully rated to tow 20k, drives like a dream, has 150 gals H20, and 75 gal gray and black tanks. Power cord reel, Power hose reel a huge kitchen (by Moho standards) and a king bed. It literally takes less than 5 mins to set it up and I love having everything available on my phone so I can stand outside to ensure slides clear, jacks deploy, etc. There are numerous support groups that are great for info and upgrade ideas. The Renegade owner’s are near cult like. They are also very protective of the brand so don’t go on the Renegade page bashing it or you’ll get some backlash 😀. I will likely upgrade to a Classic in a few years as I get close to retiring but for now, we are very happy with our Verona. As for the parks that are only Class A, I say F—K them. Who wants to be there with those A-holes anyway. Most Class A are less of a Moho than a Renegade. Besides, most will tell you if you really want to be at those parks you just send a picture of your Renegade and they let you in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard h Posted November 23, 2023 Member ID: 185 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,292 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 1,116 Achievement Points: 12,132 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/05/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/08/1953 Device: Windows Share Posted November 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dockmaster said: They say in a Class A, “if you get in a collision YOU are the first on the scene.” Nothing but a windshield between you and the rest of the crazy drivers out there. Yes, RV accidents are rare as compared to standard auto accidents. And having the mass of an engine and the vehicle frame in front of you is no guarantee but it helps my piece of mind. I bought a brand new 2022 Renegade Verona and paid less than half the asking price of that Newmar. It’s not as fancy or as plush but it is very comfortable and well appointed. It is fully rated to tow 20k, drives like a dream, has 150 gals H20, and 75 gal gray and black tanks. Power cord reel, Power hose reel a huge kitchen (by Moho standards) and a king bed. It literally takes less than 5 mins to set it up and I love having everything available on my phone so I can stand outside to ensure slides clear, jacks deploy, etc. There are numerous support groups that are great for info and upgrade ideas. The Renegade owner’s are near cult like. They are also very protective of the brand so don’t go on the Renegade page bashing it or you’ll get some backlash 😀. I will likely upgrade to a Classic in a few years as I get close to retiring but for now, we are very happy with our Verona. As for the parks that are only Class A, I say F—K them. Who wants to be there with those A-holes anyway. Most Class A are less of a Moho than a Renegade. Besides, most will tell you if you really want to be at those parks you just send a picture of your Renegade and they let you in. Safety item that's a must in class A, rope ladder to throw out a window when front door is crushed and bound from impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator SandTrap Posted November 23, 2023 Member ID: 7 Group: Forum Moderator Followers: 1 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 2,633 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 1,086 Achievement Points: 20,019 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 04/30/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 05/09/1971 Device: Windows Forum Moderator Share Posted November 23, 2023 I look forward too the step ladder you get me too look through the windows of the new coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator ChEFF Posted November 24, 2023 Member ID: 30 Group: Forum Moderator Followers: 0 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 10,325 Content Per Day: 9.46 Reputation: 6,240 Achievement Points: 66,605 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 82 Joined: 05/01/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:32 PM Device: Windows Author Forum Moderator Share Posted November 24, 2023 Had a mid-night talk with "CAPTAIN OBVIOUS". Lots of solid info was shared. I am a big fan of the Renegade. I too want that engine in front of me. We don't RV PARK. We dry camp. Generator / Rest Stops / Glamis / Motocross Races / Supercross Stadiums. So The CLASS A ONLY parks.....EFF Them is right. The King Aire has always been my Dream Coach but...........600hp 12 speed transmission, front engine mount. Sure looks good. We'll see what wins out. Right now, the Dream Home HAS to get completed. Then we'll see where our funds and thoughts are then. Peace 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Moderator ROBERT L Posted November 24, 2023 Member ID: 31 Group: Board Moderator Followers: 0 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4,100 Content Per Day: 3.75 Reputation: 3,179 Achievement Points: 27,060 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 16 Joined: 05/01/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Device: iPhone Board Moderator Share Posted November 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, ChEFF said: Had a mid-night talk with "CAPTAIN OBVIOUS". Lots of solid info was shared. I am a big fan of the Renegade. I too want that engine in front of me. We don't RV PARK. We dry camp. Generator / Rest Stops / Glamis / Motocross Races / Supercross Stadiums. So The CLASS A ONLY parks.....EFF Them is right. The King Aire has always been my Dream Coach but...........600hp 12 speed transmission, front engine mount. Sure looks good. We'll see what wins out. Right now, the Dream Home HAS to get completed. Then we'll see where our funds and thoughts are then. Peace Wait what you’re actually using your head? This isn’t like you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator ChEFF Posted November 24, 2023 Member ID: 30 Group: Forum Moderator Followers: 0 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 10,325 Content Per Day: 9.46 Reputation: 6,240 Achievement Points: 66,605 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 82 Joined: 05/01/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:32 PM Device: Windows Author Forum Moderator Share Posted November 24, 2023 3 hours ago, ROBERT L said: Wait what you’re actually using your head? This isn’t like you. I've been using my head for years. Just the wrong one! Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Posted November 25, 2023 Member ID: 752 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 78 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 422 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 153 Achievement Points: 2,783 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Device: Android Share Posted November 25, 2023 The plane tickets are nothing. The tax is $41K, at only 7%. Then there is TTL Diesel to get that thing to you at 1,500 miles, and 8 mpg is $750....at $4 a gallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Poule43 Posted November 25, 2023 Member ID: 41 Group: Site Sponsor Followers: 3 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 2,347 Content Per Day: 2.15 Reputation: 2,623 Achievement Points: 19,753 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/02/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 11/10/1876 Device: Windows Site Sponsor Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) Jeff, Buy a Giant 5th wheel (avaliable for 35K and up) and park it in Glamis for Life...Have it serviced there and drive your F350 out from Texas / Stay in a hotel 1 night...no stress....... King Bed Cherry wood Cabinets Lots of Storage High Ceilings Giant Bathroom LARGE Tanks / Lots of water EVERYTHING you need to be comfortable 100X Cheaper and WAY Better for wash 22 where you camp........I dont understand why you are making it soo complicated..... STOP / LOOK and make the decision that works best......Ive seen you tow a stacker 1500 miles behind a coach and all that was inside was a quad and a atc 70 Im telling you / The Giant 5th wheel is PERFECT....You will be able to pay year round storage and all maintnence for the cost of the Taxes and Registration on that monstracity complicated rolling taj ma hal! Remember / KISS......keep it simple stupid !!!! I know I am right! Edited November 25, 2023 by Poule43 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Poule43 Posted November 25, 2023 Member ID: 41 Group: Site Sponsor Followers: 3 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 2,347 Content Per Day: 2.15 Reputation: 2,623 Achievement Points: 19,753 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/02/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 11/10/1876 Device: Windows Site Sponsor Share Posted November 25, 2023 You will be soo better off and will have enough to buy a nice gasser moho to keep in TX to use year round. best of both worlds!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
44 Inside Posted November 25, 2023 Member ID: 3,065 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 7 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 4 Achievement Points: 52 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/15/2023 Status: Offline Last Seen: Thursday at 04:12 AM Device: Macintosh Share Posted November 25, 2023 Did you wake up today with a set of balls between your legs ? Buy the pusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator ChEFF Posted November 25, 2023 Member ID: 30 Group: Forum Moderator Followers: 0 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 10,325 Content Per Day: 9.46 Reputation: 6,240 Achievement Points: 66,605 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 82 Joined: 05/01/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:32 PM Device: Windows Author Forum Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 3:13 PM, 1newbie said: 1) If you REALLY want a new moho; wait 8 months. Interest rates will be 2%+ lower AND prices will be slashed as dealers hold inventory and people get desperate for $. Remember the days of the good old 'fire sale'? 2) A Renegade pulls 10x better than a rear engine coach. I really like that idea. Fire Sale! And, pulling is a HUGE part of our set-up. 1250 miles one way to our camp. I wonder how much Storage the Renegades have compared to the Class A? Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator ChEFF Posted November 25, 2023 Member ID: 30 Group: Forum Moderator Followers: 0 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 10,325 Content Per Day: 9.46 Reputation: 6,240 Achievement Points: 66,605 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 82 Joined: 05/01/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:32 PM Device: Windows Author Forum Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Poule43 said: Jeff, Buy a 35K Giant 5th wheel and park it in Glamis for Life...Have it serviced there and drive your F350 out from Texas / Stay in a hotel 1 night...no stress....... King Bed Cherry wood Cabinets Lots of Storage High Ceilings Giant Bathroom LARGE Tanks / Lots of water EVERYTHING you need to be comfortable 100X Cheaper and WAY Better for wash 22 where you camp........I dont understand why you are making it soo complicated..... STOP / LOOK and make the decision that works best......Ive seen you tow a stacker 1500 miles behind a coach and all that was inside was a quad and a atc 70 Im telling you / The Giant 5th wheel is PERFECT....You will be able to pay year round storage and all maintnence for the cost of the Taxes and Registration on that monstracity complicated rolling taj ma hal! Remember / KISS......keep it simple stupid !!!! I know I am right! The Man ain't no dummy. He's got a good point. The weather Summertime in Glamis. How much of a beating is the 5th wheel going to take? Definitely a different routine. Fuel. MTC. Food. Change is good? Trap sent me this. Could this be the staple in the Dune community forever? New 2023 Forest River Rv Cherokee Wolf Pack 365PACK16 For Sale in Denton, TX - 5028125742 - RV Trader Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator ChEFF Posted November 25, 2023 Member ID: 30 Group: Forum Moderator Followers: 0 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 10,325 Content Per Day: 9.46 Reputation: 6,240 Achievement Points: 66,605 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 82 Joined: 05/01/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:32 PM Device: Windows Author Forum Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2023 7 hours ago, 44 Inside said: Did you wake up today with a set of balls between your legs ? Buy the pusher I feel a clitoris growing! Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Moderator ChEFF Posted November 25, 2023 Member ID: 30 Group: Forum Moderator Followers: 0 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 10,325 Content Per Day: 9.46 Reputation: 6,240 Achievement Points: 66,605 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 82 Joined: 05/01/2021 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:32 PM Device: Windows Author Forum Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2023 Maybe learn how to Ghost Camp? Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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